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Post by brobreaud on Feb 2, 2007 13:35:52 GMT -5
An atheist or a wiccan will wind up in the same hell. However, witchcraft or any other sin, homosexuality, fornication, lying, murder, adultery etc. can be forgiven, when repented of. As for dying in unbelief, there is no remedy.
Brobreaud
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Post by shetani on Feb 2, 2007 17:53:11 GMT -5
Oh, boo. The hell sh!t will never work with me until you prove that it actually exists - sans bible.
In other words, burrow down to the bottom of the Earth (where Patty believes hell actually is) and take a picture.
Hold up. If hell is at the center of the Earth, how come the Hubbard telescope has never hit an angel?
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Post by cervyy on Feb 2, 2007 18:25:49 GMT -5
Hold up. If hell is at the center of the Earth, how come the Hubbard telescope has never hit an angel? Ever been on a plane when it hits turbulance? There ya go. ;D
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Post by shetani on Feb 2, 2007 18:41:29 GMT -5
Ever been on a plane when it hits turbulance? There ya go. ;D I never see any feathers. Are they invisible to haythens? And what about the Hubble telescope? Surely it would have picked some angels up by now.
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Post by deltadom on Feb 3, 2007 20:49:13 GMT -5
The hubble telescope only picks up the visible light spectrum and the hubble telescope can only look at one part of the universe at the time as the universe is billions of stars which are all created by god!! There is the en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spitzer_Space_TelescopeSpitzer Space Telescope which sees in Infrared which is still a small part of the light spectrum. and there are other telescopes that see through different spectrums en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_telescopeI am glad some of your are not rocket scientists!!!! God created light and angels chose to hide themselves it is gods plan, the wind is hidden yet we see its affect. There our lots of things that we do not see, but I leave the question up to god for his perfect will if you want to ask him shetani the chose is yours why he keeps the Angels hidden?
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Post by cervyy on Feb 3, 2007 21:06:52 GMT -5
why he keeps the Angels hidden? God makes them invisible because they dress like the guys in the "Homosexual Prop." video Val posted. She (God) realized that the homophobic morons ruling each other couldn''t handle the fabulous truth. ;D
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Post by deltadom on Feb 3, 2007 21:12:05 GMT -5
You are making a statement without actually giving any evidence for your statement!!
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Post by cervyy on Feb 3, 2007 21:15:49 GMT -5
My evidence is that I know this, it is written to be so (right before you for instance). You of course will know it to be true as well as soon as you trust all your life in Her Buxuom Holiness. For you see, you cannot see the truth till you surrender to it.
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Post by deltadom on Feb 3, 2007 21:56:18 GMT -5
As you have never see an angel and as god is the person who created Angels isnt it just conjecture from a second hand source would not be smart to ask Jesus or even look in the bible!!! Considering even the concept of Angels is a biblical one in which you would not have without the knowledge of the bible!! Jesus is the way, the truth , the life and I will gladly surrender to him!!!
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Post by shetani on Feb 3, 2007 22:11:03 GMT -5
For you see, you cannot see the truth till you surrender to it. Totally. You can't understand Scientology until you've handed them all of your money, either.
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Post by cervyy on Feb 3, 2007 22:16:12 GMT -5
Like I said Dommy, unless you surrender to Her Holy Curvacious-ness, you just won't see the true light. I'm praying to Her for your eternal soul. May Her fabulous angels show you the way. Repent!
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Post by valentine on Feb 3, 2007 22:46:44 GMT -5
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Post by cervyy on Feb 3, 2007 22:48:00 GMT -5
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Post by deltadom on Feb 3, 2007 23:14:35 GMT -5
The only person I am surrendering to is Jesus because he loves me and died for and gave his life for me!!
Mt 10:39 - Show Context He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.
One thing that I do not understand? Why do you spend your time on here if you do not like christians? Havent you got anything better to do?
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Post by cervyy on Feb 3, 2007 23:24:30 GMT -5
One thing that I do not understand? Why do you spend your time on here if you do not like christians? Havent you got anything better to do? The master of assumptions strikes again! Who said anything about disliking "Christians?" My, my. Perchance you are hearing voices that lie. The devil must be whispering in your ear.
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Post by shetani on Feb 3, 2007 23:28:21 GMT -5
Why do you spend your time on here if you do not like christians? Havent you got anything better to do? I like Christians well enough. It's the egomaniacal, yay-for-theocracy Krischunz I have a problem with. Brb, I need to lay a smoldering infant sacrifice at the altar of Valentine.
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Post by deltadom on Feb 3, 2007 23:32:01 GMT -5
How can you like Christians if you hate jesus!!! and you should get an award in not answering questions!! It is also strange how you differentiate between christians. Your language is very vague Dom
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Post by shetani on Feb 3, 2007 23:34:43 GMT -5
How can you like Christians if you hate jesus!!! Hate Jesus? Naw, man. I think he was a pretty cool guy. Too bad so many of his followers are his exact antithesis, eh? Then again, all feminists and unbelievers are evil, baby-killlin', church-burnin' haters of da Jayzus.
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Post by cervyy on Feb 3, 2007 23:40:24 GMT -5
How can you like Christians if you hate jesus!!! and you should get an award in not answering questions!! It is also strange how you differentiate between christians. Your language is very vague Dom I wonder who he is specifically refering to, but I shall answer still. Who said anything about hating Jesus? Was it not you who advised me to make statements only when one had evidence to back it up with? Yes, well, as far as "differentiating between Christians" goes, I don't like to group people into large categories. I like to group people into much smaller groups. For instance, Shetani is in a group called 'Shetani' and Val is in a group called 'Val.' You too have your own little group that accuretely describes you; 'Dommy.' Now, do you see how this is much more effective then labeling people into "Christian" and "heathen?" When you generalize, you only end up lying about people.
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Post by cervyy on Feb 3, 2007 23:41:06 GMT -5
Then again, all feminists and unbelievers are evil, baby-killlin', church-burnin' haters of da Jayzus. Well put Shetani. Dommy, this is another example of what I was saying.
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Post by deltadom on Feb 3, 2007 23:51:50 GMT -5
How do you define Christians?
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Post by cervyy on Feb 3, 2007 23:54:28 GMT -5
How do you define Christians? Someone who believes in Christ. Obviously though, in our land of "freedom of religions," this means we get many different beliefs in Christ.
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Post by deltadom on Feb 4, 2007 0:19:49 GMT -5
Yes but is it the jesus of the bible , Yeshua Hamashia that is jesus name in Hebrew, even the devil believes in Jesus but that does not get him out of hell!!! Jesus says himself that if you love him you will obey his commandments!! You say he is cool guy but not unless he is your personal Lord and Saviour and that you repent from your sins it isnt good news for you, even I have to repent!!
What use is it going to heaven where Jesus is if the people there actually do not even know the Jesus who is alive now!!! and do not know about his time here on earth!!! As heaven without Jesus would be Hell!!
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Post by cervyy on Feb 4, 2007 9:55:44 GMT -5
Yes but is it the jesus of the bible Yes, but the Jesus of MY Bible ... Sorry, but the copy editor in me can't help it ... "What use is it going to heaven where Jesus is(,) (when) the people there (do not) actually (...) even know the Jesus who is alive now(,) (and) do not know about (H)is time here on earth(?) As heaven without Jesus would be Hell(.)" Sadly, this statement just needs to be COMPLETELY rewritten as is, but this makes it up to parr with the usual "Christian" writing. Also, I'm going to recomend that you limit your use of the exclamation mark until you get a better grasp of the English language. This is to mainly prevent you from "asking" more questions without actually using a question mark.
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Post by DanielPalmquist on Feb 28, 2007 11:05:10 GMT -5
Fear is of the enemy and anyone here who is inciting fear or trying to get anyone here to fear is a great error. You WILL not get the children of God to fear it just isn't going to happen. If the living God decided to tell me to go to that 'Public Square' and preach I would'nt hesitate and regardless if it was day or night or weither I was with a fellow or not because I am with God and the Devil trembles! 'CervyY' has willfully made this public information therefore I shall clarify and need to let everyone here know if you are new to the faith and don't know already that 'CervyY' does not know the living God. He is clearly intentionally trying to be a whimsical idolater and is flaunting this right in our faces. GOD IS NOT MOCKED CervyY! You and the rest of us can see that the Devil does his works in darkness and you right now are aiding him! Therefore I in the name of the LORD YAHUSHUA HA NOTZRI (LORD JESUS OF NAZARETH) challenge Mister (void); enemy of the truth to come forth and reveal yourself for who you really are! The Lord speaks to the adversary and commands him to come out of this one! You know me I am a son of God Daniel Allen Palmquist so I being a willful vessel of the eternal almighty YHWH ask you now in his love and authority, who are you?
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Post by cervyy on Feb 28, 2007 11:46:20 GMT -5
Umm, color me confused. The only who seems to be trying to use fear is you. Per chance ... was I triying to inceite fear (in YOUR eyes only) when I was talking about freedom of relgion? That CAN be scary for "Christians." Or maybe ... it was talking about judging people as PEOPLE and not as groups. Again, can be scary if you're used to generalizing people. Though I am truly confused about this revealing myself stuff. I have done anything BUT hiding myself so I don't get what you're talking about. 'Cause ya, I'm hiding when I give you my LJ link and AIM screenname. RIIIIIIGHT.
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Post by DanielPalmquist on Feb 28, 2007 12:55:02 GMT -5
We color ourselves by free will. weither one admits it or not it is your choice to be confused. You are possessed and thus dodging the issue of your statements of one generalizing. Who generalized who? You! Who said who was christian? I have read and am completely aware of all that has been posted in this topic so we are on the same subject. You have been fooled to believe your own lies and demons are well able to do that to people who abuse the right side of their brain. I'm speaking objectively when I say you've made an apparition of one being confused. I say this in love because you need to face the facts that you choose to do what you will and incur the results thereof and this is it. You've successfully contradicted yourself in one paragraph because your communicating in abstractions. I am not speaking in metaphors when I ask who are you. If you were to ask me who I am I would correctly answer a son of the LORD and servant of him who is Jesus Christ the name I have been given is Daniel Allen Palmquist and I could continue yet that is how it begins then you might continue with and I am this old and am relative to who and such and I do such and such. You aren't thinking this way because you have not been sanctified and that means you are defiled and in need of repentance. I know one thing about you and that is you have commited much idolatery. Idolaters will not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven in other words they will inherit the Kingdom of Hell. This is not a figure of speech it is real and you know it! I also know that you take things literally and everyone must take care to speak perfectly to you as they very well should to all others as well. You think you are tactful in manipulation of words for your own gain yet what you don't realize is to continue in that direction will only gain you eternity in Hell. These are things you acknowledge are wrong yet refuse admit. God see our heart our thoughts thus every intent of our heart. He knows how many hairs are on your head and he has made me aware of you. I don't know you personally of course but I know where you are coming from and who is in the proverbial drivers wheel of your life. I am not going to entertain you or anyone else the truth does not need a defense. All you know about me is what I've told you. I am not going to get in any debate with you because it would be useless. We haven't even disagreed on anything but I know right now as you are reading this the one who is deceiving you to Hell has you already thinking of how you'll refuse in your response to see the truth. I am not condemning you because you are already condemned. Unless you are born again you will burn in Hell forever. These are all things Jesus Christ spoke of and he spoke more of those things then Heaven. Obviously you can read English and have the ability to comprehend with your conscience mind what I am corresponding to you. When someone asks 'who are you?' You should know immediately right? That is all I asked so the question still stands and I ask you to please if you are going to respond open the post with the answer to that question because I was not instilling any fear in you. That is just what the Devil wanted you to say because he knows the words of God I typed were to him. All children of God has nothing to hide and are completely candid as I am. There is an enemy call him what you may but he is real and I know this as much as I know God lives and I am typing to you right now. I Daniel Allen Palmquist a servant of him has love for you because he loves you not because I have any reason to love you. I remember when I was on the path you are on right now. This conversation is not about me but about you and I can relate to you till the cows come home yet I am not wanting to get in a pissing contest and see who's is bigger I just want you to receive the truth and that is all that I and anyone else should be here for. Only the evil one should be affraid because he is the guilty party. I did not condemn you because walking with him you are already condemned and it is a fact you are walking with him because if one does not say 'The Lord is Jesus Christ' or a variance thereof is of the evil one and is on their way to Hell. The fear you were inciting was that one should think from what happened and be affraid because of that. Not in those exact words but that is what you got to. However we as true lovers of God know these things and take them as a blessing when they happen to suffer for the name sake. Amen.
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Post by cervyy on Feb 28, 2007 13:36:57 GMT -5
First and formost, as any journalist or writier can tell you. A 43 LINE paragraph (as it appears on my screen) is an unhealthy presentation. Even the Bible has the sense to to split that much text into more managable paragraphs.
Second, and HERE I answer who are you question. (the above is FAR more important) Of course it still won't be to YOUR liking. I can give the answer from YOUR perspecitve or from MINE. For you, I am a plaything of the devil do his evil deads on this holy, "Christian" message board. But for me, I am a son of God (Her Holy Curvacious-ness), creator of everything. Otherwise, I am Cervy (a pen name I have been cultivating for YEARS) or in rl, DJ.
Thirdly, my confusion is no charade. That's pure me right there. Why, not a half an hour ago I was so busy going through my homework assignments for the day I forgot which floor of my dorm I live on. I had to stare at the second floor sign for a few seconds before I realized I still had one more flight to go.
Since you are new here I can see where YOU got confused about my generalizations about "Christians." When I type thusly, I am refering to those "Christians" on this message board and of Open air Outreach. While any previous posts (on this page that I see) are all in answer to a SPECIFIC person (which can be easilly seen), with specific answers.
Lastly, since you are new here, then you wouldn't know that any post dirrected to a "heathen" here is the same thing as saying "I say this and disagree with you! Come argue!!" Nor do I wish to endure any "pissing contests." I am here to remind myself that people who would even BRING UP A TOPIC about putting gays "to the sword" actually exist.
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Post by DanielPalmquist on Feb 28, 2007 16:20:41 GMT -5
You said it yourself you are a servant of the Devil because you have been serving him. You are more important than proper grammar as well. You got the point and hopefully so does anyone else who reads this post. Thankfully now everyone can understand you have made your choice to be an enemy of the only true God and refuse to face the truth. They do exist and why is that a problem? If they were out doing that would you have a problem? I would not condone that because it might very well cost them their life in this fallen world we live in because mans law is fallible thus does not have a complete knowledge of justice. We are in a regenative time known as the time of grace because of our Lord Jesus Christ made that sacrafice but those who do not turn to him are abandoning their chance. If you do not turn to the forgiveness of God that is only by Jesus Christ then in Judgement you will wish you heeded these words; Repent and be born again! The Sword is the least homosexuals have to worry about because the Lord said if your eye causes you to sin pluck it out for it is better to enter Heaven with one eye then to go to Hell with both of your eyes! I am not going to respond anymore because God has told me you are lost and there is nothing I can do but what I he has already had me do. Gods word is infallible and his law is perfect. Everyone please unless this one apologizes for all his folly and mockery don't even read his replies or posts and Saint Jesse if you read this please dear brother delete the spewing comments from this website that flows through that one they have no place on this Holy Message Board. He does not bring any positive attention and has made a willful decision to be a rebel. God Bless you all in the his humanly name The Christ Jesus of Nazareth.
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Post by DanielPalmquist on Feb 28, 2007 16:47:37 GMT -5
"But in A GREAT HOUSE there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth and some to honor, and some to dishonor" (II Tim. 2:20).
"This, know also, that IN THE LAST DAYS, perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent [without self-control], fierce [brutal], despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady [reckless], high-minded [haughty], lovers of pleasures more than [rather than] lovers of God; having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away… EVER learning, and NEVER able to come to the knowledge of the truth" (II Tim. 3:1-7).
Thank God he has shown me this truth that he has moved beyond dishonor to a realm of destruction by trying to incite fear to my brothers and sisters!
"For the time is come that JUDGMENT must begin at The House of God…" (I Pet. 4:17).
1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
You see it is not just the homosexuals that won't inherit the kingdom of God it is the effeminate because God can see our hearts and knows it is most deceitful and the mouth is full of lies. It is not just the outward parts that need sanctification but the inside as well. These things we know because of him. I have seen that one try and turn others from the fear of God to the fear of the world and that is a great error that needs correction.
Revelation 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
Glory to God Amen.
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