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Post by shetani on Feb 28, 2007 20:35:17 GMT -5
You said it yourself you are a servant of the Devil because you have been serving him. Ah, Us v. Them thinking. How I love you. To poor, mentally deficient Daniel, anyone who does not buy into extreme Christianity must be an evil, baby-killin', homo-lovin' demon. Hitlerific! Gods word is infallible and his law is perfect. Proof, please. And no bahble. Attempting to justify a religion with it's own holy book is more than a little redundant. He does not bring any positive attention and has made a willful decision to be a rebel. What the fxck is that? I expect you, as a righteous, macho Krischun warrior to invite that wretched Cerv right into the arena! Face him, you wuss! Strike him with your blazing sword of rahchusness! Oh, right. Cerv might use his demonic brain against you. If only everyone had a bible for a brain, man.
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Post by cervyy on Feb 28, 2007 20:48:51 GMT -5
I just want to say, thank you for splitting that up a little. It read SO MUCH BETTER. You said it yourself you are a servant of the Devil because you have been serving him. You spin better then Fox News. That is what I said YOU wanted to me to say. According to my own beliefs I am NOT working for the devil. I'm still waiting for Y'ALLS to convert to MY way of thinking. It was oh-so-nice of you to give up on my. Would Jesus have done so?? That is okay. I did not ask you to try and save me. You initiated this mini-discussion. Omni-everything God has NO time to concinve me to convert?? I said it on here many, many months ago. Your God will get my vote when he shows up for tea time (though I ran out of lil cakes when I left London. I have nothing but tea to offer).
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Post by cervyy on Feb 28, 2007 20:50:12 GMT -5
Oh, right. Cerv might use his demonic brain against you. If only everyone had a bible for a brain, man. I guess he really didn't want to talk to some REALLY in league with the devil or he would have posted to YOU. Guess he wanted to attack the small fries.
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Post by DanielPalmquist on Mar 6, 2007 14:00:49 GMT -5
The Holy Bible is the source of all truth and it has never been disproved yet and yes I will use it. That is what us evangelists do and what you cannot do is disprove anything in it. I do not have to prove God because he obviously exists and if you do not believe that you are a fool so says the Holy Bible. You admitted you believe in God yet you come up with your own moral standards. I do not have my own moral standards nor to I spin anything as you say like Fox News. They condone the War, I do not I reiterate what the Lord Jesus Christ says and that is to turn the other cheek yet as it says in the Torah you may protect your mortality with defense. These are all laws and teachings the God of the Holy Bible gave us. You claim to know God when you do not and that has been the point made. Again I have nothing to hide and if you want to continue to reject the truth by ranting and raving on this message board that would be your prerogative. I have important things to do (there are thousands upon thousands of others sincerely craving the words of life) because this would not be important if you do not want to accept the facts of life that without God you are going to die. You are too self righteous to admit your guilt and sin. It says in the Holy Bible that some do not come to God because their works would be manifested. If you have put on Christ then that is washed away you see because he payed the price of the sin of many. These are the proper translations and that is the grace of God through which we must be saved through faith. He ransomed us from the bondages of sin and death because the Devil had us fall from the grace of God and eternal life. These are all things you know yet the reason people don't want to admit it is because they are affraid. Affraid of what you ask? It is in the Holy Bible that their works would be made manifest. So the person is told by the Devil they aren't good enough that they cannot be saved and the shame of their sin is too great. I use to think so myself because I was really bad. God showed me that I was insulting him when he gave me a revelation! He is eternally powerful and beyond anything he has established can do anything. The Devil intervened in the creators order of creation thereby causing the creation to fall and God in his love offered a way to redeem us. Because we were fallen an could not look upon the glory of God he ministered to us through his holy angels. Satan willfully fell knowing God and being in his presence and he tried to rob the mankind from our gift from God because he was jealous and prideful to think we are inferious to him and he deserves it instead. This was his case in Heaven and he accused us day and night never ceasing from trying to bring us under his rule. God has been victorious to display firsthand that mankind is a just creation by embodying himself in the form of Jesus of Nazareth and living a full life to the letter of the law. THEN Satan was convicted by that alone yet those who followed him were still guilty and thus had the penalty of death. God Jesus then willfully layed down his life as the only way for those sinners and any future sinners to be forgiven. We cannot be saved by the letter of the law let me say that again we cannot achieve eternal life through being perfect by following the law because WE ALREADY BROKE IT. Only the one who is Holy can descend down and pay the price and offer it as a free gift. God in his infinite power and infallibility did it that way and you cannot argue it any other way because you will contradict yourself. Many people have died for that and I will too! I know this is the truth because I have felt the power thereof and there is nothing you CervyY or the other person can say to change that. You will stand before a holy just Judge and these will be the words that you must take hold of or you will perish. You have made yourself self righteous and that is exactly what the Devil wants you to do. He has deceived you and will take you to a place where you are forever alone. You have cast yourself aside from God not you casting God aside from you. You cannot disprove one thing from the Holy Bible and we as believers have proven everything. There is a proverbial Cloud of Martyrs and unnumerable believers out there so why would you dare to question that? Back up what you say that is what the Holy Bible tells us to do! All the standards of living you claim to have are in the Holy Bible in perfect order yet I doubt you have ever completely read it. I know you haven't understood it or tried to because you can't. The preaching of the Cross is foolishness to those who are perishing! You need God in your heart to show you your sin. Again the Devil rebelled against God knowing him first hand and he said he was better then us and for God to be infallible and to prove our worth we must go to him without knowing him. Faith is the essence of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen. Well there has been real miracles in my life and they are happening all the time. The Devil has blinded you in this world and that is his purpose. We are tested and salted by the flames of Hell yet you are mistaking those pains for truth and thereby grown bitter of walking after the way of God. Tell me do you think that lying is bad? Do you think stealing is bad? Any one of those things that the Holy Bible says are bad do you agree? Those are the things we were guilty of and because of that we are guilty. If I was to steal I would be a thief and it only takes one time to be that. It only takes one lie to be a liar. I know what you are thinking how could Jesus Christ be God and that is because he is perfect! You question what perfect is well it says what it is in the Holy Bible that the law is perfect yet we have already broken the law and anyone besides Christ who has ever lived is not perfect. I was very bad and I thought there was no one out there that could be good or keep the law and I was proven wrong. My wife Joy proved me wrong that one can live morally perfect yet we are not an island unto ourself and we are not justified by our future actions because we still have the reality of our sin on our head. She made the decission to live perfectly yet she knew just as I knew when I made the same decission that it is irrelivant. I still had impending doom coming ever close to me. That is because if I was to rob someone and go before a Judge and say I'm sorry for what I did but since then I did many good things! The Judge would say irrelivant the price must still be paid for what you took! I cannot give anything in return for my soul because everything I have has been given to me and is not my own! There is nothing I can offer in return for my soul. The soul of the sinner has the price of death. Can you pay death for your soul? The wages of sin is death. Can you offer something in return to cheat death and live forever? Is there something you truly have that you can offer for eternal life? I use to think so! I use to think that I could personify a revelation and bring about a global change through science and bringing about immortality through those means. God showed me I am fallible feeble and void of reason because I have fallen and need him only! There is no other way! Jesus said in the book of John that who ever keeps my word will never taste death! Whoever goes to him he will in no way cast out! These are all things you'll know on Judgement day. I hope you don't have a seat waiting for you in Hell. I know the truth because I have received a revelation from GOD and accepted the ministry! I have been saved because I was born again by grace through faith! God still has me living a practical life and I am in the scientific field out here in Las Vegas. My dear CervyY you are welcome to come and speak to in person. If you are ready I might even be able to supply the means of your transportation if the Lord Jesus Christ so wills it. My phone number is (702) 357-8811. I currently reside at 8600 W. Charleston Blvd Las Vegas Nevada 89117. -D.A.P.
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Post by cervyy on Mar 6, 2007 14:36:45 GMT -5
I am not going to respond anymore because God has told me you are lost and there is nothing I can do but what I he has already had me do. Who wants to take the fall on this one? God or you? Doesn't "NOT responding" mean you wouldn't be posting again??
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Post by cervyy on Mar 6, 2007 14:39:50 GMT -5
You want to prove (again apperently) the complete true-ness of God and the Bible? Tell Him (or Her in MY BOOK WHERE I AM NOT WRONG) to show up to tea then. Because while you said the Bible has NEVER been disproved, you just showed I can't trust your word. Looks like it's up God alone to save the day from the "Christians."
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Post by William the Sinner on Sept 29, 2008 13:17:50 GMT -5
Your worldview cannot account for the laws of mind or morality, although you assume them, you have no reason to believe them. Since dirt and energy cannot account for, create, or conjure up laws of reason, personality or morality, how do you account for their existance and your use of them? You should not care what we think or what you yourself think, yet here you are busy trying to appear so cleaver using the very laws of reason you cannot explain without the existence of a supreme, personal, logical and moral deity. Why do you even care?
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Post by Brother. Ross on Sept 29, 2008 13:37:57 GMT -5
2Thessalonians 1: 4-6 So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure: Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer: Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;
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Post by kureji on Sept 30, 2008 0:01:29 GMT -5
holy sh... did you guys REALLY necro a thread thats more than a year old?
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Post by William the Sinner on Sept 30, 2008 7:30:15 GMT -5
yeap. Were you monitoring a thread more then a year old?
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Post by kureji on Sept 30, 2008 8:37:23 GMT -5
well see, when a thread gets a reply on it, it gets alittle symbol by it and puts it on the top. This generally makes me look at it. This is normal as you wouldn't have any idea what to look at or what is recent or new other wise.
When someone replies to a thread that no one has posted in for a very long time that's called necroing, because you're bringing back a long dead conversation that is quite over with. Usually, it's bad forum etiquette to necro threads. Esspecially, to argue with people that for the most part don't even post here anymore. I can only see Cervyy in the list of heathen side that just recently started posting again.
I know you're an older gentleman though and all these newfangled computer rules are strange so I'll let it slide.
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Post by William the Sinner on Oct 1, 2008 7:48:08 GMT -5
Thank you for your kindness and your generous and forgiving spirit. You are right, I do not blog much. I do write software, however. That has been my profession for the last 29 years. But the applications I write are for businesses and databases and such. So they are not dialog intensive, full of pithy wit and snappy banter. Mostly statistics and reports and web sites to access them, you know.
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Post by kureji on Oct 1, 2008 13:15:59 GMT -5
No problemo, Will. Just looking out for the forum, it's my job being an internet super hero and all.
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Post by William the Sinner on Oct 3, 2008 13:33:03 GMT -5
Yeah, I could see that.
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