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Post by Jesse Morrell on Mar 9, 2008 16:16:41 GMT -5
This a historical break down of theological persecution
- The Augustinians persecuted the Pelagians: they had them ripped from their pulpits, their wealth and possessions confiscated, and had them excommunicated and banished from both Church and State.
- The Reformers persecuted the Anabaptists: they had their property confiscated, had them beaten, and imprisoned.
- The Calvinists persecuted the Arminians: they had them arrested and imprisoned for life.
- The Puritans persecuted the Quakers: they had their ears cut off, had them beaten, and even publicly executed through hanging and other means.
The Christians (Pelagians, Anabapists, Arminians, and Quakers) have all suffered greatly for the truth of the Gospel. These groups all taught the pure gospel truths of free will, conditional security, and Christian perfection against the Gnostic heresies which crept into the Church.
And during these types of severe injustice and persecution against the truth, these Christians manifested the fruit of the Spirit by loving their enemies, praying for them, and preaching the truth. The fruit of the Spirit is the proof or evidence of true Christianity, which fruit these Christians showed during their persecution.
"And they shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service. And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me." John 16:2-3
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Post by Josh Parsley on Mar 9, 2008 20:21:22 GMT -5
Where can I read more on this? Especially the one with Puritans/Quakers. I'm familiar with the other ones, but not so much with these two.
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Post by Jesse Morrell on Mar 9, 2008 20:38:04 GMT -5
There are many sources on these issues.
I read about the Calvinists persecuting the Arminians in Dan Corners book. But it was regarding the Synod of Dort which you can read about in many places. The Synod of Dort was a trial the Calvinist had against Arminians which they had arrested. When the Arminians were guilty of being non-Calvinists, they were put in prison. Hugo Grotius for example was put in prison FOR LIFE after the Synod of Dort. The Synod of Dort was a trial against Arminians which were arrested, accusing them of heresy, and when it was concluded that they were not Calvinists, they were severely punished.
And regarding the Puritans persecuting the Quakers, I read about it in John Fletcher's "An Equal Check to Pharisaism" in his chapter on "Historical Essay". He spoke about how the Puritans had the ears of Quakers cut off, and also had 4 Quakers (3 Men and 1 Women) publicly hung for preaching Christian perfection and obedience.
I'm sure that there are other sources, but these are just the two that I've been reading lately.
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Post by Josh Parsley on Mar 9, 2008 20:48:34 GMT -5
There are many sources on these issues. I read about the Calvinists persecuting the Arminians in Dan Corners book. But it was regarding the Synod of Dort which you can read about in many places. The Synod of Dort was a trial the Calvinist had against Arminians which they had arrested. When the Arminians were guilty of being non-Calvinists, they were put in prison. Hugo Grotius for example was put in prison FOR LIFE after the Synod of Dort. The Synod of Dort was a trial against Arminians which were arrested, accusing them of heresy, and when it was concluded that they were not Calvinists, they were severely punished. Ok, yes I know what you are referring to now. Hmm this is new to me. Although, it's not real surprising because I think the Puritans had a similar view of the relationship between the OT/NT as the Reformers. If a person believes that the church should set up a physical kingdom and dealing with heretics is part of that kingdom your conclusion would be to kill those who teach "damnable" doctrines. I think they also did infant baptism.. which falls in line with that type of thinking. It's real interesting to see what kind of doctrines people can have if you get into extreme teachings about replacement theology.
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Post by John McGlone on Mar 17, 2008 16:56:04 GMT -5
Don't forget the persecutions from the Catholic church!
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Post by Jesse Morrell on Mar 17, 2008 17:16:21 GMT -5
The following was the Catholic Church:
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Post by greg on Mar 24, 2008 16:47:46 GMT -5
I am no expert on any of this but my findings Jesse are the same. History repeats itself.
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Post by bullhornbob on May 7, 2008 1:00:27 GMT -5
Yes, Amen greg, so buckle your Holy Ghost safety belt, because we are in for one heavenly ride to glory!
It will ultimately cost the Christian his life. See John 15 for details, specifically v. 13.
Are you ready Christian?
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Post by John McGlone on May 7, 2008 7:30:42 GMT -5
I was speaking with my saved sister today and I related an experience with our unsaved sister and aunt who both spoke of our families as being just like the polygamists in TX. We were brainwashing our children with the Bible and going to have them married off to old perverted men.
If our own earthly families would speak such slanderous lies which could lead to a horrible legal standoff/incident with the state how much do they love us? I have 8 children and my saved sister has four, pray with us for protection for our families.
They love their sin; and hate their Creator! If they hate Him how much will they hate us?
The servant is by no means greater than the Master.
Woe to them that the world speaks well of.
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Post by bullhornbob on May 12, 2008 1:33:15 GMT -5
I pray that you will strengthen John, his family, and his sister with her family as well, Father God. Help them to endure hardship, and be encouraged by persecution, for it validates our place in you and YOUR FAMILY, oh God!
Prepare us, O Lord, for battle. Give us the grace and strength we need to accomplish your will here on the earth until you return for your pure spotless bride.
In the name of Jesus Christ our Savior from sin!
AMEN!
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