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Post by evanschaible on Jun 5, 2006 16:25:40 GMT -5
Let me ask you then, why has this country, after years and years of immoral acts, not just given up on morality?
I submit to you it is because whether you like it or not, morality comes from God and no matter how hard you try and take credit for it, or give any one else credit, God created morals. His laws are the absolute standard of right and wrong. One day all will stand before Him for judgement, and be judged from them. If you dont have the redemption offered in Jesus, and are not born of the Spirit of God, then you might as well get ready because you will becast into hell.
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Post by atheistbibleburner on Jun 5, 2006 16:42:59 GMT -5
Because society is organized....
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Then why are we having this "debate"?
Where are his laws? In every country, the laws are easily accessed by all, in many many different books, articles, etc. God's law is in a book. Plus, noone gives a rat-behind about god's laws if god's laws are breaking that nation's laws.
One day, you will stand before the invisible pink unicorn, and be judged by it. Are you willing to be cast into it's hell? =O
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Post by evanschaible on Jun 5, 2006 18:58:18 GMT -5
Organized? Have you seen the multitudes marching against deportation and aginst the governments new immigration bill? We are at war. We are threatened by Iran and Russia. The entire world is in turmoil, you must really be lost if you think this society is organized.
You tell me, your came to this board.
Exodus chapter 20. Matthew chapter 5. Read them, tell me what you think.
This statement is proved false by the fact that I am writing to you, I care about God and His laws.
Gods law supersedes this nations "laws". This nation, at one point, was built on God's laws. Then the "Higher Critics" and fuzzythinkers showed up and....Here we are. This nation at one point was a Christian nation. But now it is pagan, selfish, and anti-God (the true God anyway).
Ill take my chances. Jesus Christ deserves your obediance and worship, He deserves the reward of His suffering, He deserves your soul. You rebel against Him, Why? You wont submit to Him, Why? You break His laws, Why? You openly mock Him, Why? You will have to answer for everything at the judgement seat. If you confess anf forsake your sin you can recieve mercy. Please think about it.
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Post by atheistbibleburner on Jun 5, 2006 19:00:27 GMT -5
... multitudes.... that's organiztion....
Skipping ahead...
This is bullshit, and if prove nothing else to you here, I will prove this much to you.
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Post by HSTN2983 on Jun 6, 2006 15:31:31 GMT -5
...actually, evan, you just contradicted yourself. you said this country is based on christian morals, yet this country is at war...and even lost.
well, which one is it?
...is it a hell-hole or the garden of eden?
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Post by evanschaible on Jun 6, 2006 19:23:46 GMT -5
Find the place where I said that TODAY this country is based on Christian morals. I think you will find I said that this country at its conception was fundementally a Christian society.
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Post by evanschaible on Jun 6, 2006 19:26:29 GMT -5
BibleBurner,
If that is your reply to God's laws then you had better think about your stance on what you believe. You still have offered me nothing to prove anything about a single iota of your theory.
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Post by HSTN2983 on Jun 7, 2006 8:53:40 GMT -5
evan, stop dancing around your own words. i am no fool, and definately no one to be trifled with...
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Post by atheistbibleburner on Jun 7, 2006 12:05:04 GMT -5
NO! WHEN THIS COUNTRY WAS CREATED, THE MAJORITY WERE NOT CHRISTIAN. THE FOUNDING FATHERS THEMSELVES WERE DEIST. THEY FLED TO AMERICA TO ESCAPE RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION, FOR ALL RELIGIONS.
This country was created to be secular, and it remains, to a degree, secular.
Did you know most of the people on the mayflower were not Puritans, but convicts? How does that make you feel? This country was founded by convicts.
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Post by evanschaible on Jun 7, 2006 15:06:19 GMT -5
How should you not be trifled with? Physically you could probably beat me up pretty good. Inteleectually, who cares.
And this is where the debate stops. All intelligent conversation has gone from it. I humbly point you to Jesse's thread "America meant to be Christian".
Thank you and remember, unless you repent you will perish. Trust Jesus Christ.
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Post by HSTN2983 on Jun 8, 2006 7:22:29 GMT -5
i throw stones at pharisees.
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Post by atheistbibleburner on Jun 8, 2006 11:46:44 GMT -5
Can't you prove jesus to us without that? I'm telling you man, every time you say that makes me less and less inclined to ever convert. After the 415th time it started getting old.
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Post by HSTN2983 on Jun 10, 2006 9:44:53 GMT -5
christians are repetitive, because they refuse to think for themselves...and often times they take that as a compliment.
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Post by atheistbibleburner on Jun 10, 2006 12:19:21 GMT -5
"Hey you're a dumbass!" "Why thank you, nobody ever said anything so nice to me before! Trust in teh Jebus!"
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Post by HSTN2983 on Jun 10, 2006 18:41:55 GMT -5
haha.
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