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Post by tetsat on Nov 19, 2009 23:38:25 GMT -5
Now I know some of you like Kireji seem young and probably without children yet, so it is probably harder for you to understand this question. Now being that before you can turn around you going to be around 40 years old. if you are very LUCKY you might spend the next 30 years before you die. Now after you have held your child from time of birth to watching them grow up to seeing grandchildren your getting close to death. QUESTIONS: 1. Does it really hurt and bother you thinking you will never ever see them again and don't you think that must haunt your thoughts the older you get? 2. is there just the least little thought in the back of your mind that .....what if I am wrong and there is a god and maybe a hell? P.S. I bet the day all of you are on your death bed, you will not be as confident and arogant as you are now
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Post by Kureji on Nov 20, 2009 14:40:39 GMT -5
scare tactics, When I die it's over, when they die it's over there's nothing after death as far as I'm concerned. That's really low though, does that actually work on people? Telling them that if they don't worship your God that they will be separated from their child? You're low my friend, very low. Anyway, I'm not afraid of your fairy tales or ghost stories and quite honestly your attempts at scaring me into believing into the lord or else really disgusts me.
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Post by Kureji on Nov 20, 2009 14:41:26 GMT -5
Also Dale, my name is Kureji, it's a u. You've been spelling it wrong for almost a year now.
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Post by tetsat on Nov 20, 2009 20:33:24 GMT -5
First of all I am not Dale. I have no idea who Dale is and when I put your name on post I just cut and paste.
I ask an honest question because if i had no faith, I honestly do not know how I could deal with this the older I get. I have a 10 year old daughter and before I had her, I thought...I don't need kids or even want one. Boy, that was stupid of me. She has been the best thing ever to happen to me. But not all of us grow old and die.
EXAMPLE: I can't imagine the sheer horror if I get injured or have a heart attack now at 45 years old and thinking as I lay in the emergency room that I might never see my kids ever for eternity. That scares me way more than death!
Now look grasshopper (Kureji) for a second, put your vile deep rooted sarcastic anger aside and answer an honest question. The reality is that you cannot even comprehend the love of a child because you do not have one.
I am only 45 but I would also guess that once I hit 60, 70 and if I was an atheist.....i must always be thinking. It must be sheer torment.
And lastly, we all think were too smart and know it all. But it is one thing to be wrong and have your business fail. That is only money and with hard work you can come back. It's one thing to mess up and get divorced, but you can get re-married. But when the stakes..THE BIG GAME is about eternity, Hell, etc nobody can afford to be wrong because you cannot overcome that!
See grasshopper ((Kureji) the thing that shocks me is this: 1. You know 100% we all die 2. You have never died 3. You cannot honestly say 100% what happens
But your anger and hard heart will not allow you to see and you are willing to gamble eternity on it.
grasshopper ((Kureji) when you can snatch the pebble out of my hand, it is time for you to be a Christian ;D
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Post by Kureji on Nov 21, 2009 14:35:54 GMT -5
All you proved is that neither of us know what happens when we die, you're telling me I should believe in your God because it's the scarier reality if I'm wrong.
I'm not going to believe in something "Just in case"
You truly are a business man, taking the path that seems like it has the best payout and then trying to sell it to me as well. Though honestly, you're nothing but a coward. You shape your life based on your own fears that not only will you be punished in your currently life but because of the potential that you'll lose whats most dear to you, you're being held hostage by your faith. Unlike the other preachers on the board like you points out, I'm losing respect for you. You're weak and your morals are based off of fear. No one should ever choose something just because something bad might happen if they don't. They should do it or not do it because it's the right thing to do and that's what they believe in their heart.
Though please fear monger, please tell me more about how I'm going to hell and I should be shaking in my boots since apparently that was the weakness that shackled you to your faith.
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Post by tetsat on Nov 21, 2009 19:03:45 GMT -5
It is not based off fear. Over 27 years ago in Florida I had the unique opportunity to see a Deliverance service conducted by a very famous preacher Derek Prince. 1:http://www.revival-library.org/pensketches/charismatics/prince.html 2. www.derekprince.org/site/PageServer?pagename=about_derekprinceI saw things that would make the Exorcist movie with Blair look like a trip to Disney land with my own eyes. Right then and there i knew there was a world and life after this one with evil and good. Now 27 years later with tons of research from my eyes and experts I believe!!! But from that Deliverance service with D. Prince to all others why is it that these evil spirits, demons or whatever you may call them always are fearful and can be cast out under a powerful word called JESUS CHRIST. UMMMMMMM must be something there Grasshopper
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Post by Kureji on Nov 21, 2009 22:19:58 GMT -5
Wait you believe in those guys that cast demons out of people in front of crowds and the like? Now that's funny... Not even the other guys believe in that stuff I'm pretty sure.
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Post by tetsat on Nov 21, 2009 23:13:05 GMT -5
No Kureji, not all those guys like the con artist Bob Larson who appears to be conducting a real exorcism in front of crowds. Most are probably totally a con. www.boblarson.org/But there are many that are real. True, there are very few true people with this ministry but people like Derek Prince, Francis MacNut are real. After I saw this I have spent over the last 27 years really researching and from what I have seen with my own eyes and studies it is real. But remember many people are fake just like bad TV preachers. Not all are real and not all are fake. I have studied even the documented cases from Rome where they do everything possible not to call on their own exorcist. When they do it is for real. Anyway, with studies I have seen there is 100% something out there. There is a difference between evil spirits in somebody/manifest and full possession. less than 10% are full and I can also tell you the strongest are from the occult/satanic ritual abuse. again I do not expect or even suggest you try to understand this coming from me a poster on this board. I did not and would not have believed myself if I had not seen it with my own eyes and studied for 27 years. i just know there is 100% something there outside of our world that is evil and good. And somehow the evil has no power and is weakened when the name Jesus is used.
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Post by Kureji on Nov 23, 2009 12:23:08 GMT -5
I would love to hear the other christians on this board's opinions on this topic.
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Post by tetsat on Nov 23, 2009 21:18:34 GMT -5
This is typically a ministry you fall into by accident or go looking. It's more common in other parts of the world (meaning more natural) to accept. Your typical family here in America with this problem is embarrassed or ashamed to make it know. They will typically try through their pastor (50% worthless) to find and seek help. many pastors are not experienced and lead them wrong or sometimes to right person.
TWO SHOCKING THINGS:
1. Common But Tough: You can have somebody like me or you probably that might have an evil spirit that has manifested in you. Now he door that was opened could have been early in life and I will give you a true story. Lady had multiple demons and the door was opened when she was under a coffee table as a child in fear (Spirit fear entered) because father was drunk, abusive, etc, Now at 45 years old with cutting herself, depression, wanting to kill herself, etc she was delivered and it took many sesssions over a year. Multiple spirts were cast out and talked.
A. During 45 years she functioned as me and you but with those problems. But at the point of deleverence, then the spirit took over and spoke and then was in temp full control. B. When asked how he entered...he said when she was under table in fear and named himself
2. Most wicked and dangerous and many times take full possession and can kill somebody. usually from Occult worship and satanic ritual abuse, covens where child is consecrated to satan as child. Many times prayer, FASTING are manadatory and levels at time and steps must be done to cast them out. here you might see things flying, floating, super human power, basically the exorcist movie times 10
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Post by tonyholland on Nov 24, 2009 13:24:14 GMT -5
I would love to hear the other christians on this board's opinions on this topic. I'm pretty convinced that this is Dale. He is a pretty creative dude. and there is some real irony in having a non-believer pretending to be a believer, irritating another non-believer. You can see just about everything here on this board. ;D
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Post by tetsat on Nov 24, 2009 14:46:59 GMT -5
I am NOT Dale. This is my website www.psalm19-7.comI came on this site to introduce my site. look at the famous preachers page on my website, under Chritianity in America and you will see Derek prince.
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Post by Kureji on Nov 24, 2009 15:02:18 GMT -5
Nice site, Dale. You went a bit too far with the exorcism thing and now it's obvious who you are. Oh well, maybe when you reroll your character, it'll be less obvious and you'll troll the Christians instead of me.
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Post by tetsat on Nov 25, 2009 0:54:55 GMT -5
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Post by Kureji on Nov 25, 2009 8:24:11 GMT -5
If you weren't Dale and you were a true Christian why would you call us morons?
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Post by tetsat on Nov 25, 2009 11:54:34 GMT -5
Look Grasshopper when you are acting stupid im gonna call you out. I know your IQ and I know your not stupid or a moron....just acting like one.
Look, im not Dale and if you understand what I said you will easily see. trying to show you something from a totally different angle to help you see there is something after this death in the body. Now maybe from this angle you might ask what? I am being honest with you and I saw it with my own eyes over 27 years.
Now call me dale or decide not to look into it if you wish. I hope you do not die in your sins grasshopper becasue I do not wish that on anybody bro. But I came from this angle to show you something that exist. Believe or look into it if you wish. If not, go your way.
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Post by Kureji on Nov 25, 2009 14:40:11 GMT -5
What exactly was it that I did that was unintelligent? Was it that I disagreed with you? That's hardly grounds for being unintelligent. After all you are not the infallible God that you are trying to enlighten me to.
I might be inclined to believe you aren't Dale, but then I lean towards you being one of his non-believing friends who are also lurking the site. Definitely came off too strong too quickly. Did you really invest money in making that site just for this or did you guys just find a website and decided to claim it for your own? The site looks like it could have been pulled together quite quickly. In fact it was registered on Oct 31, 2009, This last halloween. That's pretty quick too bad I can't seem to find who registered it, only that it was registered at godaddy.com I could probably find more but I gotta leave soon for turkey day traveling.
Dang Dale, if it is you and you're exposed already, you must have wasted a good deal of cash just then.
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Post by Melmoth on Nov 25, 2009 20:31:27 GMT -5
Dang Dale, if it is you and you're exposed already, you must have wasted a good deal of cash just then. Looking it up, that's a bit more extreme than I expected of Dale. My money's still on him as the prime suspect, but short of trying to subpoena domainsbyproxy.com a sure ID is going to be difficult. Good job, whoever you are, you've put more work into whatever you're up to than I usually see.
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Post by curritodelacruz on Jun 26, 2010 19:19:24 GMT -5
Tetsat is not being very Christlike. He who wins souls is wise.
I will try to get my pastor, Diego Montes, yo come on this board and speak with you nonbelievers.
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