Post by Jesse Morrell on Dec 31, 2009 0:37:10 GMT -5
Theodore Beza, the successor of John Calvin, said that “The fall of man was both necessary and wonderful”. Theodore Beza (The Christian Faith)
John Calvin said, "The first man fell because the Lord deemed it meet that he should." (John Calvin, Institutes of Christian Religion, Book 3, Chapter 23, Paragraph 8).
He also said, "Creatures are so governed by the secret counsel of God, that nothing happens but what he has knowingly and willingly decreed." (John Calvin, Institutes of Christian Religion, Book 1, Chapter 16, Paragraph 3)... See More
And, “that God not only foresaw the fall of the first man, and in him the ruin of his posterity; but also at his own pleasure arranged it" John Calvin (Institutes of the Christian Religion" Book III, Chapter 23, Paragraph 7),
Augustine said, “free choice of the will was present in that man who was the first to be formed… But after he sinned by that free will, we who have descended from his progeny have been plunged into necessity.” Augustine (Augustine, Manichaeism, and the Good by Kam-lun E. Lee, published by Dissertation.com, p. 122)
"By Adam's transgression, the freedom of' the human will has been completely lost.” Augustine (A Historical Presentation of Augustinianism and Pelagianism by Dr. Wiggers, p. 332)
“By the greatness of the first sin, we have lost the freewill to love God.” And finally he said, “by subverting the rectitude in which he was created, he is followed with the punishment of not being able to do right” and “the freedom to abstain from sin has been lost as a punishment of sin.” Augustine (An Historical Presentation of Augustinism and Pelagianism From The Original Sources" by Dr Wiggers, 1840 Edition, pages 128-129)
John Calvin said, "The first man fell because the Lord deemed it meet that he should." (John Calvin, Institutes of Christian Religion, Book 3, Chapter 23, Paragraph 8).
He also said, "Creatures are so governed by the secret counsel of God, that nothing happens but what he has knowingly and willingly decreed." (John Calvin, Institutes of Christian Religion, Book 1, Chapter 16, Paragraph 3)... See More
And, “that God not only foresaw the fall of the first man, and in him the ruin of his posterity; but also at his own pleasure arranged it" John Calvin (Institutes of the Christian Religion" Book III, Chapter 23, Paragraph 7),
Augustine said, “free choice of the will was present in that man who was the first to be formed… But after he sinned by that free will, we who have descended from his progeny have been plunged into necessity.” Augustine (Augustine, Manichaeism, and the Good by Kam-lun E. Lee, published by Dissertation.com, p. 122)
"By Adam's transgression, the freedom of' the human will has been completely lost.” Augustine (A Historical Presentation of Augustinianism and Pelagianism by Dr. Wiggers, p. 332)
“By the greatness of the first sin, we have lost the freewill to love God.” And finally he said, “by subverting the rectitude in which he was created, he is followed with the punishment of not being able to do right” and “the freedom to abstain from sin has been lost as a punishment of sin.” Augustine (An Historical Presentation of Augustinism and Pelagianism From The Original Sources" by Dr Wiggers, 1840 Edition, pages 128-129)