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Post by wordpurified on Jun 2, 2012 15:27:01 GMT -5
"Woe to you judges who adjudicate injustice and ROB MY people from their substance." Pro 23:13 "Do not withhold correction from a child, for if you beat them with the rod, they will not die." Pro 22:15 "Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child. The rod of correction shall drive it far from them."Pro 13:24 "They who withholds their rod hates their children, but they who loves them chastens them young in age."And NOT "off topic} .....2Sa 7:14 "I will be their FATHER, and they shall be My children. If they commit sin, I will chasten them with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the sons of men." [Did you really understand those WORDS? Like FATHER .... like-minded children.] 2Ch 19:6 "And HE said to the judges, 'Take heed what you do. For you do not judge for man, but for Jehovah, WHO should be with you in the judgment." Psa 2:10 "And now be wise, O kings; be instructed, O judges of the earth." LAST BUT NOT LEAST.....Deu 32:31 "For their rock is not as our ROCK, even our enemies themselves being judges." [Did you understand that?] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ the following "IN PART" is NEWS in this incorporated country. For INFORMATION Educational Purposes ONLY not for re-sale........ [Boldness and comments added because I'm suppose to do so. ie "warn the wicked to turn from their wicked ways." Ezk. 3: 18-21 and 33: 3-20 and "warning every man.... and teaching every man in all wisdom, so we can present every man PERFECT in CHRIST, the LIVING WORD." Col. 1: 28 What came BEFORE the "teaching every man?" Oh yes... the DEMAND ... "warning every man."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Minister IMPRISONED for Teaching that Parents Should Spank Their Childrenendoftheamericandream.com/archives/pastor-sentenced-to-2-years-in-prison-for-teaching-that-parents-should-spank-their-childrenDo you believe that parents should be able to spank their children? [It is NOT if you believe or not, it matter what GOD demands.Because "we" obey the WORD rather than man.] Do you ever express that opinion to others? If so, then you could be sent to prison. Sadly, that is exactly what happened to one pastor up in Wisconsin recently. Do you believe that parents should be able to spank their children? Do you ever express that opinion to others? If so, then you could be sent to prison. Sadly, that is exactly what happened to one pastor up in Wisconsin recently. A minister named Philip Caminiti was sentenced to 2 years in prison (plus 6 years more under court ordered supervision,) for simply teaching that parents should spank their children when they misbehave. Please note that Caminiti was not accused of spanking anyone or of physically hurting anyone. He was put in prison simply for his speech. He was put in prison simply for what he was teaching others to do. Whether you agree with spanking or not, this should be incredibly sobering for all of us. Increasingly, speech is being penalized in the United States. Much of the time, the focus of the attacks by the forces of political correctness is on religious speech. If this trend continues, many of you that are reading this article might be put in jail for the things that you say in the coming years.When many of us were growing up, once in a while our parents would take out a belt or a wooden paddle and give us a paddling on the behind when we did something wrong. Was there anything wrong with that? Of course not. Yes, there is real child abuse that goes on out there, but in the vast majority of instances spanking does not do any lasting physical harm. Rather, it benefits the child because it helps them learn what is right and what is wrong. I know that when I got a licking on the behind as a child that helped me to remember not to do the same thing again. But Dane County Circuit Judge Maryann Sumi was absolutely horrified that some parents would actually use a wooden spoon to spank their little children when they misbehaved. Perhaps that judge should actually try to spank someone with a wooden spoon some time. You simply cannot do much damage with a wooden spoon. Instead of going after the parents who were doing the spanking, prosecutors chose to go after the pastor instead. They claimed that Caminiti was “the spoke in the wheel of this conspiracy“. Even after Caminiti leaves prison, he will be forbidden from having any contact with his old church…. Caminiti will be on extended supervision for six years after his release from prison. Despite objections on constitutional grounds by Caminiti’s lawyers, Sumi ordered that he not have any contact with the Aleitheia Bible Church and have no leadership role in any church. What in the world is happening to this country? Up in Buffalo, New York it is apparently now against the law to hand out Christian tracts on a public sidewalk. At least that is what one man was told recently when he attempted to hand out tracts outside of an Italian heritage festival. The following is from a recent WorldNetDaily article…. While handing out tracts to willing recipients on a public street during a public festival, Owen was approached by a police officer who declined to identify himself but told him that the Buffalo Police Department is “the law” and he should stop handing out tracts. According to the lawsuit: “Subsequently, another police officer, Officer Slomka, arrived on the scene. She quickly informed Owen that they could not hand out tracts in the festival and explained that the prohibition was ‘by our orders.’ Owen asked for her name, and she replied: ‘Slomka, write it down.’ Owen advised that he believed the tracts to be free speech; nonplussed, Officer Slomka reiterated that they couldn’t hand out tracts there and had to go outside of the festival area to continue with their expressive activity.” Then, “Owen inquired as to whether they would be arrested if they continued to hand out tracts in the festival area, to which, Officer Slomka replied: ‘Yes.’” ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Go to the link above to read the rest of the story! So "we" are NOT supposed to OBEY UNGODLY [not inspired] Anti-CHRISTED, pretend-a-statutes, that are NOT only NOT-GODLY but U.N.Constitutional, against the Bill of Rights, and morally ill-logical ? Pssst..... I will not respond to the MISS-Translated Rom.13: 1-2 as it behoove you more to STUDY those words in the ORIGINAL Greek to English rather than wasting "our" time, trying to get me to believe my CREATOR would DEMAND something in one part of HIS WORDS, and than say anything in opposition to those WORDS some-where else. That is NOT GODLY and not of the WORDS of GOD. So ... "resist the d-evil, and he will FLEE from you...."
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Post by wordpurified on Mar 10, 2012 10:32:56 GMT -5
This is NOT just about some great video. This is about certain URGENT MATTER that needs to be addressed..... that most Christians and NON-Christians can sink some of their energies into.... So rather than moving this post over to a SMALLER area.... let us please LEAVE it here where MORE people can VIEW it.... If you do NOT have children, but want to be more RESPONSIBLE in this world, NOW, toward "CHILDREN," or You have children and want the "sow n reap" LAW to work for them.... Remember the WISDOM.... The real meaning of the word, "luke-warm" is NOT enough real PASSION. So are you going to have some KIND of PASSION in this most serious PROBLEM, and are you going to take ACTION to prove you are even capable of having a REAL re-ACTION? What are YOU going to do about these children.... How about DOING THIS....... www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-news-blog/2012/mar/07/kony-2012-video-viral-invisible-childrenPS.......If NOTHING else...... DO something for these "children."
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Post by wordpurified on Aug 8, 2011 16:23:42 GMT -5
The following is "IN PART" to comply to "FAIR USE" educational information situation... ___________________________________________ This NATION is BEING ROBBED! [Just] . . . In 2007, U.S. foreign military sales agreements totaled more than $32 billion — nearly triple the amount during President Bush’s first full year in office. [ONE YEAR] The Pentagon routinely justifies weapons sales as “promoting regional stability,” but many of these arms end up in the world’s war zones. In 2006 and 2007, the five biggest recipients of U.S. weapons were Pakistan ($3.5 BILLION), Iraq ($2.2 BILLION), Israel ($2.2 BILLION), Afghanistan ($1.9 BILLION) and Colombia ($580 million) — all countries where conflict rages. [Just in ONE YEAR.] In 2008, the Pentagon brokered more than $12.5 BILLION in possible foreign military sales [just] to Iraq, including guns, ammunition, tanks and attack helicopters."[Emphasis added for clarity, and focus.] . . . . "The Obama administration has approved billions in arms sales and transfers to Arab states, including [Pakistan,] Egypt, Jordan, Kuwait, Morocco, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.". . . $37 billion of arms sales to Saudi Arabia and [5] other Persian Gulf nations over five years without always documenting the potential effect on foreign policy and national security.” [EMPHASIS ADDED!] Yes, Y OUR CONgress OKey Dokeyed ...... “$37 billion of arms!” [Do you believe there are NO terrorists in those countries who receiving "WEAPONS?"] ARMS = WEAPONS [That is “ARMS” when govment sells them, but “weapons” if “WE” sell them.] HOW ABOUT THIS MONEY "THEY" just MISSED PLACED??? > > An estimated $3.3 Trillion Missing From U.S. Treasury . . www.rense.com/general70/trill.htm . . . . . OR Rumsfeld stated 2.3 Trillion Dollars missing Pentagon just DAYS before 911 www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kpWqdPMjmo . . . . . OR THIS 9 TRILLION Dollars Missing from Federal Reserve, Fed Inspector www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYNVNhB-m0o ... OH that is ONLY $14.6 TRILLION “missing,” OPPS? Plus $700 BILLION first false "bailout!" . . . $850 BILLION of second FALSE "bailout!" [Providing $116 BILLION in bonuses!] . $ 37 BILLION for weapons for countries who are NOT our “ALLIES," [= our enemies.] Equals $1.587 TRILLION IN FRAUDULENT “bailouts, and "WEAPONS" to our enemies. PLUS . . . . $14.6 TRILLION OF UNACCOUNTED FOR TRILLIONS!PLUS the $1.587 TRILLION . . . . . . = $16.187 TRILLION (NOT Millions nor Billions but TR-I-L-L-I-O-N-S.) But "THEY do NOT enough of ""OUR"" money to REBUILD “OUR” ECONOMY, and or pay for the SS RETIREMENT, Food stamps for the ELDERLY, NOR the "military? ?" ALL the TAXPAYERS ARE BEING ROBBED! YOU AND YOUR GRAND CHILDREN OWE $200,000 per person past the THIRD GENERATION for a DEBT that only the CONGRESS critters OWE! What are “YOU” going to do about THIS? Just quoting the MISS-translated "sheeple people" verses [like Rom. 13: 1-2] of the WORD? HOW about obeying this DEMAND ...."Have NO FELLOWSHIP with UN-FruitFILLED WORKS of darkness, but rather REBUKE them." 1Tim. 5: 20 OR How about the REQUEST .... "Who will rise up for ME against the evil-doers? Who will stand up for ME against the workers of iniquity?" Psa. 94: 16 [/center] WILL YOU?
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Post by wordpurified on Aug 6, 2011 16:34:43 GMT -5
Blessing to all who "question" the so-called physical / carnal beginnings. I have somewhat a different VIEW (from the TOP/ upon the mountain).... 1. "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.. . . and ALL THINGS are of GOD" 2Cor. 5: 17-18(A) New "creature" and NEW "creation" are the same exact meanings in the KJ Dictionary. And they provide the SECOND Birth situation for the "born again!" This is the ONLY R-E-A-L "BIRTH" that there exists in this Uni-verse, that accounts WHOLLY for the mind, will and emotions of an eternal soul. SO, with that stated..... it is way MORE important to get souls "Born Again," than to focus on their "earthly" birth, . . . . well you can ask them *"IF" you see them "in GLORY," and in the Presence of the WHOLLY ONE of Ysrael. (*since "the MOST WHOLLY barely be saved...." 1Pet. 4: 18) As the FOLLOWING on FIRE R-E-V-I-V-A-L"servant" of the LIVING WORD stated.... "If your number one reason for living is NOT to seek and save the lost, you are NOT saved yourself." (That is a no-brainer. And did you ALL really understand that SENTENCE before you get "your" FINAL Sentence?) SEE HERE NOW. . . . www.gospeltruth.net/menbornsinners/mbs11.htmAnd that should suffice to Destroy the LIE of ORIGINAL SIN! Since the WORD "we" are supposed to SERVE (obey and hand out to the nations) is NOT a "respecter of persons"... and GOD/ YHVH (no "W"s in Hebrew, nor "j"s) than since this be the TRUTH... than this is the TRUTH also.... "Then the WORD, the LORD [RULER] came unto me, saying. . . Before I formed you in the belly I knew you, and before you came forth out of the womb I sanctified you, and I ordained you a prophet unto the nations."[/b][/i] Double WOW.... a SANCTIFIED. . . before the birth. . BABY! If there were NO other PROOF in the entire WORD of GOD / YHVH that would be enough for some one, who can SEE, and believe GOD CAN, (without "their" permission) make another sanctified BABY, as HE did CHRIST. WOW Like an ALL-MIGHTY GOD! HUH! SO... rather than go for every baby is a sinner, why NOT raise them as a SAINT, "sanctified BEFORE they came out of the womb?".... Just as easy, for "US" saints.... but NOT to the still "carnally minded," who believe that the WILL of GOD / sanctification is NOT as POWER-FILLED as their tiny little pathetic "fallen nature." W R O N G (well not to the "re-generated" new creations/ creatures .... any-way!) And HOW about that "John the Baptizer," he was FILLED with the WHOLLY SPIRIT of the LIVING WORD / YHVH, while he was "IN the WOMB?" Answer is: Yes and Amen...... "FILLED" = no room for any opposing venue or ideals! For the LOVE of the POWER of the WORD for overcoming the mind, wills and emotions of the FALLEN ideals..... HE / CHRIST / the Anointed ONE restored HIS PEOPLE (John 1: 21,) and their children. OR.... why should HE not be able to DO THAT? I saw that the "PRAYER of the RIGHTEOUS does MUCH. But "God does NOT hear the prayers of a sinner." John 9: 31 Praise HIM Forever..... JUST PURE LOGIC!
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Post by wordpurified on Feb 11, 2011 18:32:32 GMT -5
thanks
But I don't do "cussing" if I can sidestep in any way.
The "church" that does NOT the TRUTH is the apostate thing looking something like a "church" to those who want their feelings propped up, while believing a LIE.
Anyone who PREACHES the WORDS of GOD as Jessie does are already into the TRUTH, and since "Seeking and saving" for the eternal thing is a bunch MO important to GOD than this temporary existence of LESS than 100 years, than "we" go for the eternal first and foremost....
There are plenty of those presenting most of the events that SHOW the "End Times" is upon "us. They mostly, give a few, who are the "heathen to till the fields," as they couldn't CLEAN a fish IF they did catch one......
Noah PREACHED the END TIMES and righteousness to escape destruction!
The "hirelings" only in it for the MONEY and don't want to SCARE the "hell" out of the deeper pockets. So no real NEWS from them.
Keep waking them up.... but please make sure they KNOW that if they do NOT TURN they will BURN.
Berry Soetoro Medical BILL got shot DOWN here in Pensacola Florida by a Federal Judge, but that wont slow the hellcare crowd down, to try another slick move around the end.
Thanks for a reply, sorry it takes me so long getting back to the boards.
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Post by wordpurified on Jan 25, 2011 10:45:47 GMT -5
The WORDS of GOD state.... "IF IT WERE POSSIBLE, even the elect would be fooled." I copied the following.... and am pasting it verbatim, even though I know what the WORDS of GOD say about who are REAL Christians and who are NOT. (See signature, in part. add Heb. 2:11 and 1Jn. 3:3-9) IS Obama a Muslim or not! I would say, just like most want-to-be Christians, yes, he is a want-to-be Muslim. And this subject, I will NOT debate or even care to hear any attempts to justify Mr "0" from Canya, nor any other Build-a-burger picks for the job of pretend-a-president. The following is "FAIR USE" law in and for "EDUCATIONAL" purposes ONLY and not for resale or barter. I didn't write the following. __________________________________________ Dhimmitude, What does it mean?? PELOSI said . . . . . . We wont know whats in the BILL until we pass it. See SNOPES @ end of this note. Subject: DHIMMITUDE---What does it mean?? Very interesting. Something most of us don't know and should. Dhimmitude -- What does it mean? Obama used it in the health care bill. Now isn't this interesting? It was used in the health care law. Every day there's another revelation of what Obama and his fellow Democrats are doing to our country. Dhimmitude -- I had never heard the word until now. Type it into Google and start reading. Pretty interesting. It's on page 107 of the healthcare bill. I looked this up on Google and yep, it exists. It is a REAL word. Word of the Day: Dhimmitude Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-Muslim populations conquered through jihad. Specifically, it is the TAXING of non-Muslims in exchange for tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting conquered remnants to Islam. ObamaCare allows the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia Muslim diktat in the United States. Muslims are specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase insurance, and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured. Islam considers insurance to be "gambling", "risk-taking", and "usury" and is thus banned. Muslims are specifically granted exemption based on this. How convenient. So [if] I, as a Christian, will have crippling IRS liens placed against all of my assets, including real estate, cattle, and even accounts receivables, and will face hard prison time because I refuse to buy insurance or pay the penalty tax. Meanwhile, Louis Farrakhan will have no such penalty and will have 100% of his health needs paid for by the de facto government insurance. Non-Muslims will be paying a tax to subsidize Muslims. Period. This is Dhimmitude. Dhimmitude serves two purposes: It enriches the Muslim masters AND serves to drive conversions to Islam. In this case, the incentive to convert to Islam will be taken up by those in the inner-cities as well as the godless Generation X, Y, and Z types who have no moral anchor. If you don't believe in Christ to begin with, it is no problem whatsoever to sell Him for 30 pieces of silver. "Sure, I'll be a Muslim if it means free health insurance and no taxes. Where do I sign, bro?" I recommend sending this post to your contacts. This is desperately important and people need to know about it -- quickly! SNOPES: I thought you might find the following article from snopes.com interesting: www.snopes.com/politics/medical/exemptions.asp
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Post by wordpurified on Jan 9, 2011 19:23:41 GMT -5
The following videos are for many with low powered computers or better. Also for "long range" email ministering the REAL gospel to others or just post in signatures on forums. First and foremost is to hear if you really have HIS SPIRIT..... "Agony" [GOD through] Leonard Ravenhill The FIRE (FUll) The Real Gospel ! God does NOT Change ! Purification is NOT a Process ! (silent movie ) And of course ALL of Jesse's videos! ;D
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Post by wordpurified on Jan 2, 2011 21:55:23 GMT -5
ALMOST every doctrine that the UN-sanctified spew forth are totally opposed to the TRUTH of the WORDS of GOD, like the false doctrine of UN-conditional love of GOD. I pray the WORDS that HE said RULE, and that the false doctrines of the carnal leave you all. __________________________________________________
The CONDITIONAL LOVE of GOD! “I LOVE THEM THAT LOVE ME!" Proverbs 8:17 “And you shall not walk in the manners of the nations which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I *ABHORRED THEM.” (*Hated see below!) Leviticus 20:23: THE WORD SAYS HE ABHORS SINNERS, NOT JUST THE SIN:
KJV Dictionary : Abhorred ABHOR'RED, pp. Hated extremely, detested.
Strongs Abhorred H6972 through the idea of severing oneself from. . .to (H6962); to be (causatively make) disgusted or anxious.
Webster's 1837 Dictionary Abhorrent ABHOR'RENT, a. 1. Hating, detesting, struck with abhorrence. 2. Contrary, odious, inconsistent with, expressive of extreme opposition, as, "Slander is abhorrent to all ideas of justice . . ."
BDB Definition: 1) to be grieved, loathe, abhor, feel a loathing or abhorrence or sickening dread 1a) (Qal) 1a1) to feel a loathing at, abhor 1a2) to feel a sickening dread 1b) (Hiphil) 1b1) to cause sickening dread 1b2) to cause loathing Part of Speech: verb
A Related Word by Strong’s Number: a primitive root [identical with H6972 above] through the idea of severing oneself from (compare H6962)] Abomination ABOMINA'TION, n. 1. Extreme hatred; detestation. 2. The object of detestation, a common signification in scripture.
Leviticus 20:23: “And you shall not walk in the manners of the nations which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I *ABHORRED / HATED THEM.” (See above "Abhor.") Leviticus 26:14-30: “If you will not hearken unto ME, and will not do all these commandments. And if you shall despise MY statutes, or if your soul abhors / hate MY judgments, so that you will not do all MY commandments, but that you break MY covenant, I also will do this to you... [send plagues, famine, drought, destructive armies, wild beasts who shall devour your children, pestilence, captivity in a cruel land...] And if you will not for all this hearken unto ME, but walk contrary to ME, Then I WILL WALK CONTRARY TO YOU IN FURY... I will destroy your high places, and cut down your images, and cast your carcasses upon the carcasses of your idols, and MY SOUL SHALL *ABHOR / HATES YOU.”
Deuteronomy 18:12: “For all that do these things are an ABOMINATION TO THE LORD, and because of these abominations the LORD your GOD does drive them out from before you.” Deuteronomy 25:16: “...ALL THAT DO UNRIGHTEOUSLY ARE AN ABOMINATION UNTO THE LORD.” Abomination = disgusting (morally)
Deuteronomy 28:62-63: “Because you would not obey the voice of the LORD your GOD ... it shall come to pass, that as did the LORD rejoiced over you when you did good, and to multiply you; so this LORD will be the LORD that will REJOICE OVER YOU TO DESTROY YOU, and to bring you to naught; and you shall be plucked from off the land whither you go to possess it.” (In Deuteronomy 27, 28, and 29, 124 (CURSES are promised upon the Jews who refused to obey GOD’s commandments.)
Deuteronomy 32:16-20: “They provoked HIM to jealousy with strange GODs, with abominations they provoked HIM to ANGER... And when the LORD saw it HE HATED THEM...” (HIS people sacrificing to devils - SEE verse: 17)
Psalm 2:4-9: “The LORD that sits in the heavens shall LAUGH [at rebellious men], the LORD shall have them in derision. Then shall HE speak unto them in HIS WRATH, and VEX THEM WITH HIS SORE DISPLEASURE... [and the WORD shall] break them with a rod of iron, YOU shall dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel.”
Psalm 5:5-6: “The foolish shall not stand in YOUR sight, YOU HATE ALL WORKERS OF INIQUITY. YOU shall destroy them that speak leasing [lies]. THE LORD WILL ABHOR THE BLOODY AND DECEITFUL MAN.”
Psalm 7:11-13: “...GOD is ANGRY with the wicked every day. If they turn not, HE will whet HIS sword; HE has bent HIS bow, and made it ready. HE has also prepared for them the instruments of death, HE ordained HIS arrows against the persecutors.”
Psalm 10:3: “For the wicked... bless the covetous, WHOM THE LORD ABHORS.”
Psalm 11:5-7: “The LORD tries the righteous, but the WICKED and them THAT LOVE VIOLENCE HIS SOUL HATES. Upon the wicked HE shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup. For the righteous LORD loves righteousness...”
Psalm 50:22: “Now consider this, you that forget GOD, LEST I TEAR YOU IN PIECES, AND THERE BE NONE TO DELIVER.”
Psalm 78:59: “When GOD heard this HE was ANGERED, and GREATLY ABHORRED ISRAEL.” Psalm 106:40: “Therefore was the wrath of the LORD kindled against HIS people, insomuch that HE ABHORRED HIS OWN INHERITANCE.”
Proverbs 3:32-33: “For the forward is an ABOMINATION TO THE LORD... The CURSED OF THE LORD is in the house of the wicked, but HE blessed the habitation of the holy.”
Proverbs 6:16-19: “These six things dose the LORD HATES, YES, all seven are AN ABOMINATION TO HIM ... A false witness that speaks lies, and they that sows discord among the brethren.”
Proverbs 16:5: “Every one that is proud in heart is an ABOMINATION TO THE LORD, though hand join in hand, they shall NOT be unpunished.”
Proverbs 17:5: “They that justified [pardons, give excuses for] the wicked, and they that condemns the just / holy, even they both are ABOMINATIONS TO THE LORD.”
Jeremiah 17:5: “Thus says the LORD, CURSED BE THE MAN that trusts in man, and makes flesh their arm, and whose heart departed from the LORD.”
Hosea 9:15: “All their wickedness is in Gilgal, for there I HATED THEM, for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of MY house, I WILL LOVE THEM NO MORE...”
Malachi 1:3-4: “And I HATED ESAU, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness . . . thus says the LORD of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down, and they shall call them, 'The border of wickedness, and the people AGAINST WHOM THE LORD HAS INDIGNATION FOREVER.” (That should scare the LIE of unconditional love out of you! If you had any GOD given sense, anyway.)
Romans 9:13: “As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but ESAU HAVE I HATED.”
I Corinthians 16:22: “If any man love not the LORD Jesus Christ, let him be ANATHEMA MARANATHA [which means ACCURSED, THE LORD COMES].”
James 4:4: “You adulterers and adulteresses, know you not that friendship of the world is ENMITY (or HATRED) WITH GOD? Whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is an ENEMY OF GOD.”
I Peter 3:12: “For the eyes of the LORD are over the righteous (holy pure, saints,) and HIS ears are open to their prayers, but THE FACE OF THE LORD IS AGAINST THEM THAT DO EVIL.”
Revelation 14:10-11: “[Sinners] shall drink of the wine of the WRATH OF GOD, which is poured without mixture into the cup of HIS INDIGNATION / FIERCE ANGER, and they shall be TORMENTED WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE IN THE PRESENCE OF THE HOLY ANGELS, AND IN THE PRESENCE OF THE LAMB, and the smoke of their TORMENT ascends up for ever and ever; and they have NO REST DAY NOR NIGHT...” THE HISTORICAL POSITION OF THE CHURCH AS REVEALED BY ITS REPRESENTATIVES AUGUSTINE (354-430, Bishop of Hippo): “For it may be that GOD HATES A PERSON to the degree more mildly, as not to destroy him, but whom He destroys HE HATES THE MORE EXCEEDINGLY, by how much He punishes more severely. Now HE HATETH ALL WHO WORK INIQUITY: but all who speak lies He also destroys.” (Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, Vol.3, p.462)
JOHN WESLEY (1703-1791, founder of Methodism): “But as for the wicked, GOD HATES THEM, and will feverishly punish them.” (Explanatory Notes Upon the Old Testament, Vol.2, p.1639)
JONATHAN EDWARDS: “The GOD that holds you over the pit of hell, much in the same way one holds a spider, or some loathsome insect, over the fire, ABHORS YOU, and is dreadfully provoked: His wrath towards you burns like fire: He looks upon you as worthy of nothing else but to be cast into the fire: He is of purer eyes than to bear to have you in His sight: you are ten thousand times more ABOMINABLE in His sight than the most hateful venomous serpent is in ours.” (Sinners In the Hands of an Angry GOD, July 8, 1741)
CHARLES G. FINNEY: “The very thing that GOD hates and disapproves is not the mere event - the thing done in distinction from the doer; but it is the doer himself. It grieves and displeases GOD that a rational moral agent under His government should array himself against his own GOD and Father, against all that is right and just in the universe. This is the thing that offends GOD. The sinner himself is the direct and only object of His anger.” (The Guilt of Sin, pp.84-85)
F. DELITZSCH : “Of such (sinners - the foolish, and more especially the foolish boasters:)... SUCH MEN JEHOVAH HATES: for if He did not hate evil, His love would not be a holy love,” ... “And His soul HATES the evildoer and him that delights in the violence of the strong against the weak. And the more intense this hatred, the more fearful will be the judgments in which it bursts forth.” (Psalms, Vol.5, pp.122,189)
CHARLES H. SPURGEON: “Verse 5 - Note the singular opposition of the two sentences. GOD HATES THE WICKED, therefore in contrast He loves the righteous...” (The Treasury of David, Vol.2, pp.57-58 on Ps. 5: 5 )
AUGUSTUS HOPKINS STRONG : “There is no abstract sin that can be hated apart from the person in whom that sin is represented and embodies. It is the sinner who is punished, not the sin.” (Systematic Theology, p.290f)
J. VERNON MCGEE: “If you think GOD is just lovey-dovey, you had better read this (Ps.11:5) and some of the other Psalms again. GOD HATES THE WICKED who hold onto their wickedness... I do not think GOD loves the devil, I think He hates him, and HE HATES THOSE WHO HAVE NO INTENTION OF TURNING TO GOD. Frankly, I do not like this distinction that I hear today, that ‘GOD loves the sinner, but hates the sin.’ GOD has loved you so much that He gave His Son to die for you, but if you persist in your sin, [or] continue in that sin, you are the enemy of GOD. And GOD is your enemy.” (Psalms, Vol.1, p.72)
LAYMAN’S BIBLE COMMENTARY: “GOD’S Hatred of Evildoers (Psalm 5:4-5)... GOD is not said to love the sinner and hate his sin; He is said to HATE BOTH THE SINNER AND HIS SIN. This sounds harsh to modern Christian ears, but there is truth here we dare not overlook.”
MATTHEW HENRY’S COMMENTARY: “He is a holy GOD, and therefore HATES THEM (the sinner), and cannot endure to look upon them; the wicked, and him that loves violence, HIS SOUL HATETH... Their prosperity is far from being an evidence of GOD’s love...their abuse of it does certainly make them objects of HIS HATRED. He hates nothing that He has made, yet HATES THOSE who have ill-made themselves.”
THE INTERNATIONAL CRITICAL COMMENTARY: “But the wicked HIS SOUL DOTH HATE... Their treacherous preparations...are all observed by Yahweh, and HE HATES THEM FROM HIS VERY SOUL. The soul is the seat of the passion of anger and hatred, for GOD as well as for man...therefore, Yahweh is trying the righteous man, and HATING His deadly enemies...”
THE INTERPRETER’S BIBLE: “In vs. 5 the verb ‘trieth’ has its object both the righteous and the wicked, and means no more that the LORD watchfully observes them both and estimates them for what they are, HATING THE LATTER and ultimately pouring His destruction upon them.”
BROADMAN BIBLE COMMENTARY: “Yahweh takes no pleasure in wickedness and does not dwell with evil (or evil men). Insolent, boasting people have no position at all in the presence of Yahweh, who HATES ALL ‘DOERS OF SIN.’ Indeed, Yahweh will annihilate those who speak deception: HE DETESTS THE MAN OF BLOODY DEEDS AND DECEITS.” AGAIN, THE "CONDITIONAL" LOVE OF GOD “GOD hates the sin, but loves the sinner” has become the motto of the un-sanctified evangelism of the back-slidden “church” today.
Certainly, GOD hates sin – about this there can be no equivocation. But the WORD also states unambiguously, with striking frequency, that GOD HATES SINNERS.
The WORD says that HE will laugh at the wicked when their calamity comes like a whirlwind, and that HE rejoices over the wicked to destroy them. If you find this concept of GOD incompatible with the tenets of your religion, I really and truly doubt whether you really know the WORD true SPIRIT about sin!
Justice is an attribute of love. A honest judge in a courtroom of justice rejoices to catch all criminals, convict, and punish them. Is it because he is not loving? No. If he is loving, he will be glad the rapists, murderers, car thieves, child molesters, extortionists are sent to jail - for the greater good of society.
GOD hates sinners in the same sense a honest judge would hate criminals - for the greater good of mankind! GOD hates sinners in the same sense that HE hates the devil - to promote the general welfare of HIS CREATED who obey HIM.
Not because GOD is hateful, but because He is PERFECTLY loving. For the greater good of the universe, HE is forced to rid all rebels on this earth that is to HE is supposed to rule forever. It is best, it is right, it is the loving thing to do.
As long as sinners serve the devil by continuing their relentless war against virtue, purity, goodness, then the Wholly CREATOR hates, abhors, curses, detests, despises them, and will ultimately destroy them in HIS wrath - because the FACT is. . . GOD is Love.
There is a LIE in which GOD loves all men unconditionally, sinners and saints, that is Not at all the Truth, and is totally contradictory to the WORD'S teaching of HIS hatred for sinners. HE only cares for the sinner in the sense that HE wills for their good. The WORD wills that all men repent and not perish (2 Pet.3:9). GOD’s caring for sinners is not emotional drivel or sentimental feelings. He does not accept sinners “just the way they are”; they must repent (change, and TURN) and believe in order to be accepted by HIM (Acts 10:35). He does not love sinners the way that they want HIM to, HE does not give them unconditional approval, unconditional acceptance, unconditional forgiveness, or unconditional friendship. The WORD speaks of a love GOD has for HIS CREATION is WHOLLY CONDITIONAL. Hear the WORDS of CREATION:
Proverbs 8:17 “I LOVE THEM THAT LOVE ME, and those that seek ME early shall find ME.” (Can you SEE the Condition? "I Love them who love the WORD!")
John 14:21 “They that have MY commandments and keeps them, they are the ones that love ME and they THAT LOVE ME SHALL BE LOVED OF MY FATHER, and I will love them, and will manifest MYSELF to them.” (MORE CONDITIONS again, of not only KNOWING the commands / demands but LIVE them are they who love HIM!)
John 14:23 “Jesus answered and said unto him, IF ANY LOVES ME, they will keep MY WORDS, AND MY FATHER WILL LOVE THEM, and WE will come unto them, and make OUR abode in them.” (Total Condition !)
John 15:10 “IF you keep MY commandments, you SHALL ABIDE IN MY LOVE, even as I kept MY FATHER'S commandments and abide in HIS LOVE.” (That ONE verse should overrule the LIE, that the REAL CREATOR, loves a sinner! )
John 16:27 “For the FATHER HIMSELF LOVES YOU, BECAUSE YOU HAVE LOVED ME, and have believed that I came out from GOD.” (Condition "because you have loved the WORD!" Not just "liked" some "historical" man!)
I John 2:15 “Love NOT the world, neither the things in the world. IF any one loves the world, THE LOVE OF THE FATHER IS NOT in them.” (Condition: "do not love the world, NOR the things in the world!")
ALL CONDITIONAL love is the love of relationship and friendship, such as the love a man would have for an old, faithful OBEDIENT, and faith-filled servant. GOD'S conditional love is fellowship. We enjoy this love only by being wholly obedient to HIS WORDS of influence about His CONDITIONAL LOVE. You cannot know His CONDITIONAL LOVE unless you cease to love sin, and HE becomes our FIRST Love.
LOVE by definition must be voluntary, and NOT forced or to be OBEYED by "fear," as "fear is only the beginning of Wisdom," as fear awakes the slumbering soul to the eternal danger of DISOBEDIENCE to a WHOLLY CREATOR! HE states in . . . Jude 1:23 ". . .And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire, hating even the garment spotted by the flesh!"
The WORD does NOT force love upon anyone.
That would NOT be benevolent - just as it would not be benevolent for a man to “force” himself upon a woman. The WORD wants our love to be a free expression from all our mind and souls ( will and emotions.) Only in this would HE receive glory and than HE is well pleased.
The WORDS invites, persuades, pleads, and beckons all to leave their idolatrous loves, if the world, and the things of this world, and worship and adore the TRUE CREATOR WORD above ALL THINGS. And this means "give" the WORD of CREATION TOTAL per-eminence above EVERYTHING on earth, above the earth and below the earth. That is consecration and dedication or what some know as "sanctification." If you comply, the WORD delights in you.
QUESTIONS: 1. Should the WORDS of WISDOM delight in Hitler, Stalin and Moses and Elijah alike? 2. Should the WORD be pleased with Judas Iscariot, as same as John the Apostle? 3. How about Ananias, with Sapphira who withheld and disobeyed and were destroyed?
As long as sinners reject the DIVINE WORD, shown in the bloodied and bruised body of CHRIST, they cannot receive any CONDITIONAL love, what so ever.
Matter of FACT HE HIMSELF stated . . . "Why do you call ME LORD, LORD and do not do the things that I state." Luke 6: 46 How could you say you LOVE HIM, if you do NOT do the things that HE SAID TO DO? ANSWER: you can NOT love HIM, unless you DO ALL THAT HE SAID TO DO! And that is NOT "works" that is the OUTCOME of the "FRUIT" of HIS SPIRIT pouring through you. HE, the WORD, is the DOER and the DEED! So you need NOT go to the false "works" doctrine to TRY to justify any lazy disobedience.
FACT: As long as any of you continue in your sins, you are at war with the LAWMAKER, and under the condemnation of HIS LAW and the WRATH of HIS justice, THAT is CONDITIONAL love not-with-standing.
Unless you meet the terms of the covenant / agreements / and promises, that proves that have total reverence of the WORD, and TOTALLY TURN, TURN form ALL your defilements, and completely OBEY, and love the WORD Supremely - than you are doomed to the FURY of HIS COMPLETE ANGER and WRATH on JUDGMENT Day!
The real question, or statement, has never really been. . . “Does the WORD love you?” But “DO YOU REALLY LOVE THE WORD?”
Never did CHRIST or any of HIS Apostles ever tell the lost multitudes lost in trespasses and sins, that . . .“GOD loves you”. Never!
And John 3: 16 wasn't written until around 93 AD, and than it was TOTALLY MISS-Translated into what sinners just pretend that the HATER of SIN, changed HIS MIND about the destruction of sinners! (SEE ORIGINAL WORDS at end.)
NOR did any "preaching" anywhere in the Book of ACTS of the Apostles and disciples state that "GOD loves you and has a plan for your life." NEVER!
Matter of FACT: 1 Cor. 3: 16 & 17 was INSPIRED THRU Paul more than 50 plus years BEFORE John penned John 3: 16! What was preached by Paul, in his day... 1Co 3:16-17 “Do you not know that you are the temple of GOD, and that the SPIRIT of HOLINESS dwells in you? If any one defiles the temple of GOD, HE shall destroy them, for the temple of GOD is WHOLLY, which temple you are." Did that sound huggy the little sinner verse? NO!
And 1 Cor. 3: 16 &17 “that set the precedence,"and a FACT of TRUTH, or actual stranded about anyone who makes the temple of the WORD unholy or defiled!” Equals DESTROYED!
AND Rom. 1:18 "For the WRATH of GOD is revealed from heaven against ALL un-GODliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold unrighteousness as the Truth!" ( YES THAT SAID "ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS" of men. and women.)
2Thes. 1:8-9 "In a FLAMING FIRE taking vengeance on them that know not GOD, (HIS WORD) and that obey not the GOOD NEWS of our LORD Jesus Christ. Who shall be punished with EVERLASTING DESTRUCTION from the presence of the LORD, and from the glory of HIS power." 2Co 5:11 "KNOWING THEREFORE THE TERROR OF THE LORD, we persuade men, but we are made manifest unto the WORD; and I trust also are [the WORD] be made manifest in your consciences."
FACT: Only the "sinners" creator, pretends to love the sinner!
AGAIN Since the REAL John 3: 16 was not INSPIRED until 93 AD, than can the real logic be, that any of the people of the WORD, ministered that their 'GOD loves the sinner,' and all you have to is learn the above WORDS TO OVERCOME that LIE!
What could have been preached, since John 3: 16 was NOT "ministered" for the first almost 60 (SIXTY) years by the BODY of CHRIST?
Rather, they told the multitudes of their natural responsibility to love the RISEN WORD, supremely and love their neighbor equally to that WORD - this is all the Law of LOVE.
And if any and ALL sinners would not keep HIS WORDS they were ALL warned of HIS righteous judgments, so that they rather fear HIS WRATH. Ezk. 3: 17-20; 33: 2-14; Col. 1: 28 among many others.
In the book of Acts, which is our first example of Church evangelism, the word “love” is not mentioned even once, while the fear of the LORD is referred to ten (10) times!
Love was NOT mentioned anywhere, as the WAY to heaven for sixty (60 plus) YEARS from Acts of the Apostles, to the written works of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John in the 90s AD, except loving the WORD with ALL your mind, body and soul!
And the so-called preaching the Love of GOD for any sinner never once started a true "revival," ever.
Anyone who believes that the WORDS of GOD ever said HE "loves a sinner" does not know the FIRST and foremost WISDOM of the WORD! ~~~~~~~ oooOOOooo ~~~~~~~ What is the beginning of knowledge and wisdom? . . . . The WORD says it is the "FEAR" in HIS OWN WORDS! Fear ALERTS the soul of oncoming danger, and the soul can choose to TURN, and at that point of choice, to TURN from their wicked ways, than LOVE pours forth into the soul, and LOVE is than revealed!
One cannot love the WORD in the moral sense - GODLY UNSELFISH LOVE, good-willing, perfect submission - and turn against the MORAL LAW of GOD! This is NOT LOVE but the pretend-a-love, or humanistic gospel that omits mention of the WRATH and FURY of the WORD on All who do NOT OBEY HIS WORDS, and that brings sure condemnation.
Sinners love to "pretend" in their little false world of fantasy that the WHOLLY WORD has love for them, which provokes no GODLY repentance, and has quenched the conviction of the SPIRIT of HOLINESS upon so multitudes.
FACT: ANY AND ALL Sinners live in opposition to the ONE WHO could LOVE them. and are actually "ENEMIES" of DIVINE LOVE! Sinners are unnatural enemies of anything that pertains to LOVE and LIFE, that they are opposed to REAL LOVE, in any sense of the WORD, LOVE!
These "rebels" hear someone tell them, “GOD loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life” and they pretend it means the WORD, accepts them, or that has good feelings for them, or that the WHOLLY WORD is pleased with them, and that is so far from the Truth, that ONLY the totally deceived believe such a overwhelming LIE!
ONLY, the "pay as you enter" hirelings say 'Come as you are,” no need to change.
The WORD is PERFECT, and does not accept them as they are - He hates them as they are!
And the ONLY DIVINE “PLAN” for them is fueling the eternal fires of torment in the lake of fire, unless they TURN from their wicked ways, and submit to the WHOLLY WORD!
This “GOD-loves-you-unconditionally, false Gospel” should be utterly forsaken for the GRAND NEWS message by the HIS WORDS!
Holiness or HELL!
Consecration or condemnation !
Complete Deliverance or Total Torment!
Be wholly sanctified or be damned.
Your Choice!
PSSST: IN TOTAL CONTEXT OF THE TRUTH. . . As only the NOT-yet-“sanctified" are OUT OF CONTEXT, in the very first verse, stating the WORDS of CREATION that said . . . “I LOVE THEM THAT LOVE ME. . ." Proverbs 8: 17 were ALL the WORDS OF TRUTH, that was really needed for a TRUE LOVER and REAL believer / follower / minister of the WORDS of CREATION!
And anyone who can SEE and HEAR and LIVE these WORDS via the DIVINE MIND. . . know “HE LOVE THEM THAT LOVE HIM . . ." Proverbs 8:17 was more than enough to convince any NON-demented soul that the LOVE of the WORD is in FACT WHOLLY CONDITIONAL!
But since most “out of contexted" were "churched" in the sin-0-gods of satan, under the council of the still UN-GODly, we gladly provided a "washing of the WORDS," in a more abundant manner!
NOW for the ORIGINAL WORDS of . . . JOHN 3: 16 "The ORIGINAL CREATOR so loved HIS Original Creation, that HE sent forth HIS WORD again to RESTORE that creation, and anyone who lives as HE lives will not condemn themselves, but have everlasting LIFE!" (HIS LIFE not "our" life!)
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Post by wordpurified on Jan 2, 2011 18:02:55 GMT -5
Amen! Praise the LIVING WORD for HIS "freely you have received freely you give," just to GO!
I do hope that the REST of the Witness the WORDS do accomplish that which they were SENT for to do, just as much as the "ending!"
If anyone who is FILLED, have those verses / WORDS use them, they will SEE the POWER to sanctify before their loaner EYES, (which also belong to HIM. to the consecrated.)
May you and all get to "witness" many souls "sanctified!"
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Post by wordpurified on Dec 31, 2010 20:29:23 GMT -5
Sorry but you might need to explain the "little" part of that statement, as the "section" is rather large? ;D
We get the "most" of the WHOLLY MOST when we "watch" HIM doing HIS good pleasure into the souls of others. It is a reaping what HE has sown into others, or the LAW of love, that fulfills the promise of HIS SPIRIT.
It seems to take a lot longer to write down, or to read, than to allow the WORD to "minister," but eternity is a way to long lenght of time, for any soul to enter without being "FILLED to overflowing" with the WHOLE Will of GOD, "even your sanctification" 1Thes. 4: 3
May HIS WORDS bless all you come in contact with!
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Post by wordpurified on Oct 10, 2010 15:03:01 GMT -5
WITNESS unto the WORDS The RISEN WORD stated . . . ”But you will receive power when the HOLY SPIRIT comes on you, and you will be MY witnesses . . . to the ends of the earth." Acts 1: 8 (Some accounts state there were 500 present (+ or -) who heard these WORD'S, and watched HIM ascend! GOD knows for sure!) I hope it is alright that I share HIS testimony with you, because it is the WORDS of GOD is how we “overcome . . . by HIS WORDS as our testimony." (Rev. 12: 11 ) HIS testimony will be forever, about the “blood that cleansED us form ALL ungodliness and imperfections.” 1John. 1: 8 (Original WORDS.) The living WORD had me at a “flea market” on Saturdays and Sundays, from 6:50AM to about 3:00PM, to have a real "outreach", every Saturday and Sunday for 20 months, to minister HIS WORDS! It was an open sided, all the way around, with only a roof for covering! Thank GOD for that roof! I only missed one weekend because of a hurricane! It was in Pensacola Fl. A few months before the 2 BIG hurricanes! Almost every weekend there were, on the average, 1000 to 3000 souls pass by a plywood table that held FREE tracts, and booklets. About 12,000 "holiness" tracks were given out in 20 months! Usually between from 1000 to 3000 souls pass right by us, each day, in any given weekend, and according to the WORDS of GOD, 99.99% all of them are heading straight into hell! (According to the WORDS in Mat. 3: 10; 5: 30; 10: 28; Psa. 9: 17; 55: 15; Deut. 32: 22) This situation of seeing souls headed to hell was, and is beyond totally heart breaking, to say the least! (Fact: If souls going to hell, around you, does not bother you, you are not “saved” yourself.) So I went on a 40 day fast, as did the RISEN WORD, WHO I am supposed to “follow” did so ALSO, to begin HIS ministry. You should know “the FAST,” I refer to, if you REALLY know the WORDS of GOD! It is the "fast" found in Isa. 58: 6 and 8 (Verse 7 was to get the 9th. reason or . . . “Bread of LIFE” to FEED to the hungry souls.) “Is not this the fast that I have chosen? 1. To loose the bands of wickedness, 2. to undo the heavy burdens, 3. and to let the oppressed go free, 4. and that you break every yoke?” 5. Then shall your light break forth as the morning, 6. and your health shall spring forth speedily, 7. and your righteousness shall go before you, 8. and the boasting about the WORD shall be your reward.” Do you understand the 9 reasons for the “fast that HE has chosen!” From day one, the LIVING WORD gave me this desire . . . “just what verses that HE could present to a soul, thru me, that would get them into HIS kingdom, immediately, and completely! OR in other WORDS, what verses (WORDS) would “profit” a soul into “ . . . salvation THROUGH sanctification . . ." (2 Thes. 2: 13 ) right there, and right in front of my eyes! So if the soul walked away, and they never listened to a “preacher" on the radio, nor they never went into the hide away havens for sinners, they call a “church,”. . . . just what WORDS would “sanctify their soul," unto YOU and by YOU alone, dear GOD ALMIGHTY? (That was the reason for the "FAST!") On the 21st day, on or about 3:30 AM, the Living WORD woke me up, and directly gave me, a set of verses that would “sanctify a soul” within a few moments, into HIS Rule and Reign! The WORDS of CREATION in these following verses sanctified my soul, than and there, without a doubt! The WORDS instructed me, since the WORD Rules, and not just the “churchy” ways of ungodly men . . . to present to each, and ever soul, in this "FOLLOWING" manner and order, this certain presentation. . . . (He has presented HIS WORDS to up to 10 souls at one time in a group, or 1000s on a forum like this one, and most of them excepted these WORDS of “sanctification,” by HIS WORDS, on the spot, without questions, nor debates! Again since it was mostly on a “face to face” situation, HE had me present the verses in this ORDER, and in this manner as follows . . . We go immediately to (He had me use a book-marker) a wholly "in context" WORDS in Heb. 9: 26B ”. . . but NOW once at the end of the world HE has appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of HIMSELF.” (HE does not have me say, the "thees and thous," to the “un-churched,” but HE has me use either the KJV, CEV, ASV, TAB on these verses, Only!) (The KING has me ask them to read HIS WORDS, (if they can,) and HE has me stop them right after the . . . ) “. . . but NOW . . . ” (and ask them . . . ) ‘when is “NOW?”’ (And almost 99% of them respond . . . ) ‘its right NOW’ (some look at me real weird for asking such a dumb question, but I do not care, the WORD is having them prophecy when they are going to be “sanctified”. . . RIGHT NOW!’) One 280 pound, 6’ 3” man raised his voice, and argued out loud saying . . . ) “NOW is right NOW, stupid!’ (referring to me, but I saw these WORDS sanctify his soul, in the next sentence anyway, so it really didn’t matter what they think or say to, or about me!) (The WORD has me point at the next word . . . ) “ONCE” (and ask them . . . ) ‘HOW many times?’ (They answer . . . ) ‘ONCE.’(The WORD than makes me ask them . . . ) ‘“at the end” of the What?’ (and point at the word . . . ) “world.” (They say . . . ) ‘the world.’(HE than has me take the WORD from their eyes, and make eye to eye contact with them, and prophesy to them, by HIS WORDS . . . ) ‘Today, right “NOW,” is the “end of the world” for you! WHY?’ (Than to have HIM fulfill HIS prophesy, CHRIST has me point back to the verse, to the WORD'S WORDS, and have them read . . . ) “HE was manifested to PUT AWAY sin by the sacrifice of HIMSELF.”’ (The WORD than has me ask. . . ) ‘According to these WORDS, right here, and right “NOW,” stated by CHRIST HIMSELF . . . HE did what?’ (and point back at HIS WORDS . . . ) (They answer . . . ) ‘”HE put away sin by the sacrifice of HIMSELF.”’ (The WORD than has me ask them . . . ) ‘So HE was sacrificed, about 2000 years ago, Right?’(They answer . . . ) ‘Yes!’(Than HE has me ask . . . ) ‘Is He a failure?’ (They say . . . ) ‘NO!’(HE then has me tell them . . . ) ‘Since GOD cannot lie, and HE said HE HIMSELF stated that "HE put away sin by the sacrifice of HIMSELF.” That is the Truth . . . Right?’ (And they say . . . ) ‘Right!’ (Next HE has me state . . . ) ‘Since GOD HIMSELF said . . . ‘He PUT AWAY SIN" . . . than you do NOT have any sins, RIGHT?’ (They say . . . ) ‘Right! I do not have any sins, because "HE took THEM away!"’ (Upon that answer, and at that same moment, they receive the FULLNESS of the “baptism of the SPIRIT of HOLINESS,” Praise HIS WORDS! ) (Then we (the LIVING WORD) and the newly sanctified soul(s) who are NOW FILLED, hungrily turn to Heb. 10: 10 . . . ) “by [HIS] will, we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus the CHRIST, once and for all.” (HE has me point at the word of HIS WORDS. . . ) “once” and ask them . . . ) ‘How may times?’ (And they say . . . ) ‘Once!’ (Than point to the WORDS “and for all,” and than ask . . . ) ‘For how many?’ (And they say . . . ) ‘ALL!’(HE has me ask them . . . ) ‘Are you included in the WORD “ALL?”’ (They usually smile and say . . . ) ‘YES.’ (The WORD has me explain to the NOW SPIRIT FILLED soul . . . ) ‘That the WORD “sanctification” is the fancy religious word which Originally were actually a phrase . . . "being set aside completely, wholly and pure." That is you right now, and forever correct?" (They are quickened and joyfully state . . . ) ‘YES!’(He than has me tell them . . . ) ‘That according to the WORDS of GOD, right here,’ (and point to the verse . . . ) ‘just when did HE make you holy and pure?’(They answer by HIS WORDS . . . ) ‘Through the offering of HIS body.’ (The WORD and the souls go 4 verses "on-word," to Hebrews 10: 14 And they read out-loud . . . ) “For by one offering HE has perfected for ever them that are sanctified.”(HE has me ask them . . . ) ‘How many offerings?’ (They say . . . ) ‘Only “ONE!”’ (HE has me ask . . . ) ‘How long is “forever?’ (They say . . . ) “Forever!” (HE has me state more of HIS Truth . . . ) “HE sanctified," OR set you aside in HIS holiness “by one offering,” because HE HIMSELF, said that HE “PUT AWAY SIN by the sacrifice of HIMSELF.” RIGHT?’ (They say . . . ) ‘RIGHT!’(About 99% of the NOW FILLED to overflowing want to “see and hear” more! So the WORD, and we go through the following . . . ) (HE takes them to HIS next WORDS of TRUTH for the now "sanctified" in Phil. 3: 15 & 16 . . . "Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded, and if in any thing you be otherwise minded, GOD shall reveal even this unto you." 16 “Never-the-less, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind this same thing." (I am supposed to ask . . . ) ‘ When did GOD say . . . “HE perfected you forever?”’ (and point back to Heb. 10: 10.) (They read again . . . ) "For by one offering HE has perfected for ever them that are sanctified."’ (We go ‘on WORD,’ to Titus 2: 12 and read HIS WORDS . . . ) ”Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world.”(HE has me ask . . . ) ‘Right Now, right here, how does HIS WORDS teach us, as the ONLY WAY, “to live soberly, righteous and godly?”’ (They answer according to HIS WORDS . . . ) ‘by denying ungodliness and worldly lusts.’(Than HE has me ask . . . ) ‘Why are “we” supposed to “deny ungodliness and worldly lusts?”’ (They answer . . . ) ‘Because ”HE put away my sin by the sacrifice of HIMSELF.”’ (We than go to Jude 1: 24 to . . . ) ”Now unto HIM that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of HIS glory with exceeding joy.” (HE has me ask . . . ) ‘What is going to make HIM, the WORD R-E-A-L-Y happy?’ (They say . . . ) “To keep us from falling.” (He has me ask them . . . ) “And HE promised to present you how?’ (They state . . . ) "FAULTLESS!"(HE than has me explain to them, the WORDS . . . ) "HE is able to keep them from falling," . . . are the WORDS of GOD, HIMSELF, that are . . . "ABLE to keep them from falling," . . . as they minister the WORDS . . . "He is able to keep them FROM falling and present them FAULTLESS," into other souls’ That is called the "sow and reap” LAW by the WORDS of GOD!” (We then go to Rom. 3: 25-26(A) and the WORD does another prophesy to them that states . . . ) ‘ This is your public proclamation form NOW ONWARD!’ (HE has me read the verse in the ORIGINAL Greek to English text definitions, as follows . . . ) “Whom the WORD WAS set forth to be the restoration through faith in HIS blood, to publicly proclaim HIS holiness and purity for the Omission of sins, that are PAST, through the Self-control of the WORDS of GOD!” To publicly proclaim, I say, at this time / right NOW, HIS holiness and purity . . .”’ (They agree with the PERFECT WORD! ) (We then go to 1John 3: 5-9, and the WORD has them read . . . ) ‘“And you know that HE was manifested that HE may take away our sins, and in HIM is no sin. Everyone who abides in HIM does not sin." "Everyone who sins has not seen HIM nor do they know HIM.""Little children, let no one deceive you, they who do righteousness are righteous, even as that HE is righteous.""Who-so-ever sins belong to the devil. . . for the Devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the SON of GOD was manifested, that HE may destroy the works of the devil."“Everyone who has been born of these WORD do not commit sin, because HIS seed remains in them, and they cannot sin, because they have been born of GOD.” (He has me ask them . . . ) ‘Why did HE, the Living WORD state, "HE, was manifested?”’ (They state . . . ) ‘To put away our sin!’(HE has me than state the TRUTH according to HIS OWN WORDS . . . ) “Everyone who sins has not seen HIM nor knows HIM.” ‘Is that what HE said?’ (They state . . . ) ‘that is the Truth!’(HE has me ask . . . ) ‘How "righteous" are we supposed to be?’ (And they state . . . ) ‘”even as that HE is righteous.”’ (See how the WORD states HIS TRUTH?) (HE than has me state . . . ) ‘They that practices sin belong to who?’ (They speak the TRUTH . . . ) ‘they belong to the devil!’ (HE has me state . . . ) ‘According to HIS very OWN WORDS, what was “the purpose” that HE stated that “the SON of MAN was manifested?”’ (They state the TRUTH, as only the SPIRIT FILLED can state. . . ) ‘HE . . . “was manifested to destroy the works of the devil!” (HE then has me ask . . . ) ‘Was HE a failure at what HE came here to “destroy?”’ (They state. . . ) ‘NO, not for us!’(The Next question is . . . ) 'According to HIS OWN WORDS, Everyone who has been born of these WORDS do NOT commit sin, because HIS seed, [these WORDS] remains in them, and they cannot sin, because they have been born of GOD. Is that what GOD stated HIMSELF?’ (They state by the SPIRIT of HOLINESS and TRUTH . . . ) ‘That is what a true born again soul believes!’ PRAISE HIS WORDS FOREVER THAT WAS HIS TESTIMONY about the REAL ORIGINAL “gospel!” (Than HE has me, hand them a small “bookmark” ( about 2 1\4 inches wide x 3 ½ inches in height, or about 12 book-marks per a single page with the following references to WORDS of GOD that “sanctified” their soul on it. . . and tell them . . . ) ‘Fill in your name." after word “Minister” Because the “REAL winner of “souls” knows the WORDS in Pro 23: 7 ”For as a man (or woman) thinks in their minds, so are they!”’ (Original Text.) (He has me pray . . . ) ‘You will NOT allow anyone or anything to stop you from “publicly proclaiming to someone, EVERY DAY, "HIS holiness and HIS purity,” as soon as possible!" As you allow HIS WORDS to “keep you from falling, in this present world,” . . . and by . . . “denying and renouncing ungodliness and worldly lust!" SO BE IT! In HIS WHOLLY Nature and in by HIS Perfect WORD! Many times HE has them “minister,” or testify the same verses to the next “soul” on the “streets,” and sets them FREE! Praise HIM forever! ~~~~~~~~~~ Minister ______________________ Heb. 9: 26(B) Heb. 10: 10 & 14 Phil. 3: 15 & 16 Titus 2: 12 Jude 1: 24 Rom. 3: 25 & 26(A) 1John 3: 5-10 Heb. 2: 11 Rom. 6th and 8th Chapters 2Pet. 2: 9 & 19 Mat. 12: 36 & 37 Job 15: 6 than 5 1 Cor. 3: 16-17 2 Thes. 2: 13 Gal. 5: 24 (email here) www.wordpur.info (KJV,ASV,CEV,TAB Only) ~~~~~~~~~~~ Ps. OPPS . . . . Sorry about such a long Testimony, but ‘Eternity” is also a horrible length of time for the “lost and perishing souls,” who come near "us" everyday for “REPROOF, and correction in righteousness” of “their” lives! You can make, by choice, those same WORDS for your testimony also, as the WORDS belong to all, who belong to HIS WORDS! May they see the tears of the LIVING WORD pouring out of your eyes and or flooding thru [HIS] VOICE, thru you! (C. Booth, paraphrased) SO. . . We do NOT do the “Go Ye” Command, because we “have to,” (as a duty! ) NOR do we go to get “paid for it." NOR to add to some church. NOR to make “tithers and offerers,” out of all the nations! But we “GO YE” because the LOVE of these WORDS as the WORD flows FREELY thru us, who “ARE SANCTIFIED, dedicated completely” outside of mans traditions, OUT, into all who are the lost, as we . . . “WARNING every man, and than teach every man in ALL WISDOM, so we can allow the WORD to present everyone PERFECT / morally complete unto HIMSELF!” Col. 1: 28 (ORIGINAL WORDS.) ~~~~~~~~~~~ That was the testimony, of, and by the WORDS of GOD! Again I pray that the “lost" see the tears of CHRIST pouring out of you thru your eyes, and or VOICE of the WORD coming out thru you! Because CHRIST stated ORIGINALLY in 2 Tim 4: 2 . . . Freely given by the ORIGINAL WORDS of GOD . . . “Herald and preach the WORD! Keep your sense of urgency, whether the opportunity seems to be favorable or unfavorable. Whether it is convenient or inconvenient, whether it is welcome or unwelcome, you as preacher of the WORD are to show people in what way their lives are wrong. And convince them, rebuking and correcting, warning and urging and encouraging them, being unstoppable and inexhaustible in *patience and teaching.” (2 Tim 4: 2) (“*patience” has nothing to do with allowing sin. 1Pet. 4: 18; 1Tim. 5: 20; Ezekiel 18: 20; Isaiah 59:1-2; Jude 1: 23; Rom. 12: 9; Heb. 1: 9; Rom. 13: 4; Heb 1: 9 ETC.) Credit goes to the Lockman Foundation for their Amplified expansion of this verse! The ORIGINAL WORDS of GOD sure SOUND better! HUH! Did you see . . . “Whether it is convenient or inconvenient,” or “whether it is welcome or unwelcome, you as preacher of the WORD are to show people in what way their lives are wrong?” Are you a “doer of the WORD,” or a "hearer only?" Which? SO “NOW” . . . “GO YE,” and “SIN NO MORE!” (Acts 1: 8; John 5: 14 and 8: 11; 1 Cor. 15: 35 )
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Post by wordpurified on Sept 26, 2010 10:43:01 GMT -5
This is for all, on either "side" of the argument.... (Any Emphasis and boldness added for "clarity" and "focus" on certain WORDS of GOD! And as a “follower" of the WORD, WORD inspired comments.)
ALLOW the WORD to speak HIS MIND .....
Once Saved Always Saved (O.S.A.S) is a LIE!
First of all…, thank you ALL for your "seeking" the TRUTH according to the Compete WORD of GOD, instead of just the "parts" that may fit in a “doctrine of men and demons."
QUESTION. . . . If one or two verses prove a doctrine to most of you, than just what should 39 plus verses prove? Answer . . . . It would prove that . . . . Once Saved Always Saved is LIE from the pulpits of HELL?
Will you study the following WORDS of GOD?
1. "Abide in ME, and I in you; If anyone does NOT abide in ME, they are thrown away as a branch, and dried up; and they gather them and cast them into the fire, and they are burned." CHRIST HIMSELF in John. 15: 4-6 (In case you think "ABIDING IN HIM" is not salvation, please “STUDY” 1 John. 4: 15-16, and 1 John. 3: 3-10)
2. "Watch yourselves that you not lose what you have accomplished, but that you may receive full reward." (Anyone who goes to far and does not abide in the teachings of Christ "HAS NOT GOD." 2John 1: 8-9 (See 1 John. 5: 12-13) (In case you think "reward" can not mean "Heaven ITSELF", please see Col. 3: 23-24: "Whatever you do, do heartily, as for the WORD, rather than for men; knowing that from the WORD you will receive “THE REWARD OF THE INHERITANCE." [1 Pet. 1: 4]) (Why the "Warning" IF O.S.A.S. was the truth?)
3. "Therefore DO NOT THROW AWAY YOUR CONFIDENCE, which has great reward. for you have need of endurance, so that when you have done the will of GOD, YOU MAY RECEIVE THE PROMISE." Heb. 10: 35-36 (Exactly what is "THE PROMISE"? It is none other than "ETERNAL LIFE" in 1 John. 2: 25 And, our "CONFIDENCE," says Heb. 10: 19 and 6: 19, is CHRIST/ the WORD! WOW "DO NOT THROW AWAY THESE WORDS?" WHY? Because the exact "WILL of GOD" mentioned, is found in 2 Thes. 3: 2-4 "even your sanctification!")
4. "How much severer punishment do you think they will receive, they who have trampled underfoot the SON of GOD, and have regarded as unclean, the blood of the covenant BY WHICH they WERE SANCTIFIED, and has insulted the SPIRIT of grace?" Heb. 10:29 (The "WERE Sanctified" are now UN-sanctified so they are to "RECEIVE a MUCH Severer Punishment!" Like the sanctified Adam and Eve removed from the "Garden," who ONLY did ONE (1) sin for each of them to get "REMOVED" from the special place of GOD! Do you really think you are MORE special than Adam or Eve? Yes or NO? If there were NO other verses, in the entire WORD of GOD, that one alone would PROVE that O.S.A.S is a LIE, if anyone could SEE to read.)
5. "For this reason we must pay much closer attention to what things have been heard (faith comes from hearing), lest we drift away from it. ... how shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation?" Heb. 2: 1-3 ("We Escape" WHAT? Answer: is "RECEIVING a MUCH Severer Punishment!")
6. "Take care, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, in falling away from the living GOD. But encourage one another, while it is still called "today", lest any one of you be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin. For we have become partakers of Christ, IF we hold fast the beginning of our assurance firm until the end." Heb. 3: 14 (Another "Warning!" WOW! "Take Care or BE CAREFUL . . . Falling away from the LIVING WORD . . . by the deceitfulness of sin!" Double WOE!)
7. "if indeed you continue firmly established and steadfast and not moved away from the hope of the Gospel. . . “ (The "HOPE of the Gospel,” is the GOOD NEWS of the WORD of GOD! 1 Tim. 1: 1 and John 1: 1-3 it is "NOT to be moved away from” those WORDS, but to be "continue firmly established and steadfast.")
8. "For they who lack these qualities are blind or short-sighted, having forgotten their purification from their former sins. Therefore, brethren, be all the more diligent to make certain about HIS calling and election of you, for as long as you practice these things, you will never stumble, for in this way [the EISODOS- ENTRANCE / GATE of (Heaven)] will be abundantly supplied to you." 2 Pet. 1: 10-11 (Only if you "practice these things", "be diligent" and do "NOT FORGET you were Purified From your former sins," you will "never stumble! " Yes GOD inspired . . . "NEVER STUMBLE," . . . "if you are ALL the more diligent" . . . . Sure does NOT sound like "unconditional salvation" if you have to do something like "Practice these things!"
9. "Keep standing firm, and do not be SUBJECT AGAIN to a yoke of slavery. Every man who receives circumcision is under obligation to keep the whole Law. You have been SEVERED FROM CHRIST, you who would be justified by law, you have FALLEN FROM GRACE." Gal. 5: 1-4 (This ONE WORD (verse) would stand AGAINST the ALL the Once Saved Always Saved LIES, all by its self, if one would really believe the WORDS of GOD! But "picker and choosers" of the WORD of CREATION, are just guessing according to their "own" make believe "doctrines of man and demons.")
10. "KEEP YOURSELVES in the love of GOD, waiting anxiously for the mercy of our LORD Jesus CHRIST TO ETERNAL LIFE." Jude 1: 21 (If it were UN-conditional why that WARNING WORDS of instruction? Does anyone REALLY "love the WORD" if they do not OBEY the WORD? Answer is NO!)
11. "THEY who endures to the end will be saved." Matt. 24: 13, 10: 22, Mark. 13: 13. ("Endures to the end" to be "saved!" WOW that is not the "ALL" you have to do is believe in confession of sins and just "say" that you believe in "Jesus Christ arose from the dead," and find a congregation of other sinners, (Psa. 1: 1,) and try to squeeze in to HIS kingdom still mentally and morally filthy, by the "skin of you teeth?" That O.S.A.S LIE was all conjured up from the “land of liars” doctrine.)
12. "By your endurance you will gain your souls." Luke 21: 19 (The "pretend-a-saved" must not be able to READ! And the reason it is known as the “HOLY” bible, and NOT called the “Almost Sometimes, Partially, Someday Holy Bible," is that "Holiness" has to “endure to the END” of this LIFE, in HIM. SEE Luke 1: 74-75 ; Heb. 12: 11.)
13. "Fight the good fight, keeping faith and a good conscience, which some have REJECTED and suffered shipwreck in regard to their faith. Among these Hymenaeus and Alexander… " 1 Tim. 1: 18-20 ("Shipwrecked" must mean re-sub-merged with ways of the former "filth!" Like "Dogs returning to their vomit!" WOW he even named the "sunken/ shipwrecked" by their names! The ORIGINAL WORD "good" means conscience = vitreous reasoning. There is NO “good fight” in a sinner, unless it is Against godliness and purity.)
14. "But the SPIRIT explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience..." 1 Tim. 4: 1-6: (All Backsliders will hear "Depart from ME!” Because "without faith it is impossible to please GOD," which SPIRIT actually stated that HIMSELF! Not the "deceived” blind hirelings, leading “their” "blind followers into the PIT")
15. "See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to CHRIST." Col. 2: 8 ("Captive" to what? Answer: the O.S.A.S. LIE. Why need a "Warning" if the LIE of O.S.A.S. were anything other than a full blown LIE? )
16. "For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the HOLY SPIRIT and have tasted the good WORD of GOD and the powers of the age to come, if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of GOD, and put HIM to an open shame.” Heb. 6: 4 (That inspired WORD is "if they fall away to renew them again to repentance," sure sounds like another "WARNING" not to "fall" and ”crucify the SAVIOR again," and to "put CHRIST TO OPEN SHAME!" Double WOE! "OPEN shame" is to CALL yourself a Christian, and do things that even the other "worldly" knows you should NOT do. SEE Heb. 2: 11 for "those who HE is NOT ashamed!")
17. "My brethren (Christians?), if any of YOU strays from the Truth, and another leads them back, let them know that they who turns a sinner from the error of their way will save a soul from DEATH and cover a multitude of sins." James 5: 19-20 (Death = Greek: "Thanatos" death-and-HELL, or complete and final separation from the Divine Presence of WORD of CREATION! )
18. "But I buffet my body and make it my slave, lest possibly, after I have preached to others, I myself should be disqualified." 1 Corinthians 9: 27 (WOW! Even Paul knew he could be "disqualified." So where are the "backsliders" going to be "qualified," to go? NOT to heaven.)
19. "do not be a cause for stumbling that our weaker brethren, be not ruined for whom CHRIST died." 1Cor. 8: 9-13 (Why need a "warning" if there is a guarantee of the O.S.A.S liars.)
20. "Obtaining as the outcome of your faith the salvation of your souls" 1 Peter 1: 9 (Please notice the WORD said as "your faith / trust", or "the faith that WORD has given to you!" )
21. "You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, be on your guard lest, being carried away by the error of unprincipled men, you FALL FROM YOUR OWN STEADFASTNESS; but grow in the grace and knowledge of our LORD and SAVIOR Jesus the CHRIST." 2 Peter 3: 17-18 (Another "Warning to be on your guard!" Again "IF" the UN-sanctified could actually READ, that verse would DESTROY all the O.S.A.S. LIES, all by itself. "IF" they could SEE!)
22. "Therefore, let us fear lest, while a promise remains of entering HIS rest, any one of you should seem to have come short of it." Heb. 4: 1 (What happens to you if you "Come SHORT" of making it to the beach if you were swimming to the shore? Answer: DROWNED!)
23. "Beware your adversary the devil, who prowls the world like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour." 1 Pet. 5: 8 (To what group of people was that written? NOT just the "sinners,” because they “belong” to the "adversary.") (SEE 1 Pet. 5: 1; 1 John. 3: 3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10. )
24. “Pay close attention to yourself and to your teaching, persevere in these things, for as you do this you will save yourself and those who hear you.” 1 Tim. 4: 16 (More "Warnings!" NO "perseverance" found any O.S.A.S promoter! No "close attention" either! )
25. “For if, after having escaped the defilement of the world through the TRUE KNOWLEDGE of the WORD and SAVIOR, Jesus the CHRIST, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the second state is worse than the first; far better to have never KNOWN the way of righteousness, than HAVING KNOWN, to TURN AWAY FROM the holy commandment handed to them. It has happened according to the proverb, the "dog returns to its vomit,". . . and the sow was washed only to wallow again in the mire.” 2 Pet. 2: 20-22 (It is NOT the FALSE PROPHETS / TEACHERS that escape here, for the FALSE are slaves to corruption, and who never "cease from sin" (verses 14, 19). The FALSE seek to entice the TRULY SAVED (verse 18). Use the Greek here --- “True Knowledge” is EPIGNOSIS, “known” is EPIGINOSKO, and “escaped” is APOPHUEGO. THESE EXACT GREEK WORDS appear in chapter 1 to UNDENIABLY describe "SAVED," as the same faith as Peter, they were "SAVED," and then they truly “epistrepho ek” turned FROM "salvation.")
26. “Like a dog that returns to its vomit, is a fool who repeats their folly." Pro. 26: 11 (WOW GOD inspired the WORD "vomit" to equal "sin." And GOD calls someone a "fool who repeats their folly!" WOE! )
27. "Again, when a righteous one does turn from their righteousness, and commit iniquity (sin), and I lay a stumbling block before them, they shall die, because you have not given them warning, they shall die in their sin, and their righteous deeds which they have done shall not be remembered, but their blood will I require at your hand. Nevertheless if you warn the righteous, that the righteous do not sin, and they do not sin, they shall surely live, because they took warning, you have delivered your soul." Ezekiel 3: 20-21 (Another "WARNING" for any and all, that “we all” are responsible to even “WARN the righteous NOT to SIN!” or “you will NOT have “delivered you soul.”)
28. "You are the salt of the earth, but if the salt has become tasteless, how will it be made salty again? It is good for nothing anymore, except to be thrown out and trampled under foot by men." Matt. 5: 13 (WOW "tasteless," and “good for nothing,” must also mean "worthless" for GOD'S kingdom! )
29. "But Jesus said to him, 'No one, after putting his hand to the plow and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of GOD." Luke 9: 62 (If there were only one verse to prove O.S.A.S. is a LIE, this would be in the TOP TEN! And if you are NOT “FIT for the kingdom”… by looking back….” You will NOT “GET IN!”)
30. “But now that you have come to know GOD, or rather to be known by GOD, how is it that you turn back again to the weak and worthless elemental things, to which you desire to be enslaved all over again?” Gal. 4: 9 (That should say it all to a REAL believer in those WORDS!)
31. "For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the TRUTH, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain terrifying expectation of Judgment, and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries." Heb. 10: 26-27 (WOW! Now that is the TRUTH, "FURY of FIRE, but a certain terrifying expectation of Judgment." I bet those who TRIED to use HIS WORDS to return to "their sin" are the real "adversaries" who are NOT ALLOWED into HIS kingdom!)
32. "But I have this against you, that you have left your first love. Remember therefore from where you have fallen, and repent, and do the deeds you did at first, or else I am coming to you, and I will remove your lamp stand out of its place, unless you repent." Rev. 2: 4-5 (Repent = a completed change of thinking. The "lamp is removed for its place," means that the "LIGHT" shines no longer. Total Darkness is all that is left behind. SEE Jer. 15: 6 for those who "repent" (just pretend to "FEEL sorry,") and then go right back to their "vomit" again and again.)
33. (CHRIST speaking) "Not every one that says unto ME, 'LORD, LORD,' shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but they that do the WILL of MY FATHER which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, LORD, LORD, have we not prophesied in YOUR name? And in YOUR name have cast out devils? And in YOUR name done many wonderful works?" 23 And then will I profess unto them, ‘I never knew you. Depart from ME, you that work iniquity! (continued in sin)" Matt. 7: 21-23 (Powerful ANTI - O.S.A.S. statement by HIS OWN WORDS, by LIVING WORD HIMSELF! Only if the "blind" could SEE?)
34. "Yet you have a few people in Sardis who have not soiled their clothes. They will walk with ME, dressed in white, for they are worthy." Rev 3: 4 (The ones with "soiled" garments are NOT "fit for the kingdom." Kingdom garments have to be wholly "White" = spotless, undefiled.)
35. "They believe for a while, but in the time of testing they fall away." Luke 8: 13 (“Fallen away,” is just like their leader, Lucifer, who also "fell from heaven.")
36. "From that time many of HIS disciples went back, and walked no more with HIM." John 6:66 (UNSAVED equals “hell bound, lost,” by choice. Now there is a 666 for your references.)
37. "And the WORD said unto Moses, Who-so-ever has sinned against ME, them will I blot out of MY book." Exo. 32: 33 (Have to be "written in the Book of Life" in order to be "blotted out" of HIS BOOK! Say good bye to the rubbish of O.S.A.S. garbage that will be "cut down and BURNED! Proof at Mat. 3: 10)
38. "But now, being free from sin, and having been made servants to GOD, you have your fruit in that which is holy, and the end is eternal life." Romans 6: 22 (In this GODLY ORDER ONLY . . . . 1. "Free form sin!" YES that is what GOD SAID! . . . . Than . . . . 2. "made servants of the WORD!" . . . . THAN Comes . . . . 3. "have your fruit in that which is holy!" Than comes the WORDS . . . . 4. "the end is eternal life." NOT Before, NOR any other ORDER!
39. “I say this because some godless people have wormed their way in among you, saying that GOD’S forgiveness allows us to live immoral lives. They say that after you come to CHRIST you can do just as you like without fear of GOD’S punishment. The fate of such people was determined long ago, for they have turned against our only MASTER and LORD, Jesus the CHRIST.” Jude 1: 4 (Sounds just like the saint Jude ran in to the O.S.A.Sers, also, and called them “godless people” . . . that "they" said that ". . . you can live immoral Lives, without fear of GOD’S punishment . . ."[/i] )
Just 39 (plus) Proclamations by WORD from HIS WORDS AGAINST the O.S.A.S. or “Once Saved Always Saved” LIE, preached from the pulpits from hell, by the "children of the devil" 1 John 3: 8-10
AND there are more!
And the Living WORDS need no debates!
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Post by wordpurified on Sept 19, 2010 21:53:39 GMT -5
I have not gone thru all the quotes here on this forum, so please forgive any duplicated quotes here, as they may be "inspired" again for reasons that the carnally minded really need.....
Some of my most favorite and most important inspirational quotes are ......
And
And one of the ones given to me on the end of my second 40 day fast was most serious to all who call themselves Christain..... That was meant to "scare the hell out of you," BY GOD! (Matt. 3: 10)
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Post by wordpurified on Sept 18, 2010 11:47:12 GMT -5
WHAT FLESH ?
Blessed are they who are persecuted for righteousness sake for they are of the kingdom of GOD,
Comments are INSPIRED by the WORDS of GOD before them.
"Blessed is the person who does not follow the advice of [any] sinner, nor take the path of sinners, nor join the company of mockers." Psa 1: 1 (GW)
The sinner's good new (gospel) has to do with, . . . set free TO sin and still get in!. . . Or something to that dementia!
Like stated to many times before, in most of the posts here. . .So instead of taking counsel from the UNGODLY sinners, let us PARTAKE from the "following WORDS of TRUTH!"
1.) John 1:13 “Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of GOD." (There is a difference in those WORDS from those born of the flesh and those "NOT born of the will of the flesh." But all sinners be-and-lives the flesh RULES! They even TRY to GOD a liar here! )
2.) John 3:6 “That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the SPIRIT is spirit.” (Can’t you see the difference? )
3.) John 6: 63 “It is the SPIRIT that quickened, the flesh profited nothing, the WORDs that I speak unto you, they are SPIRIT, and they are life.” (the flesh can NOT profit NOTHING! WOW! The fleshly can not SEE that! )
4.) John 17:2 “As you have given Him power over all flesh, that HE should give eternal life to as many as YOU have given Him.”
5.) Rom. 3:20 “Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in HIS sight.” ("NO FLESH shall be justified in HIS SIGHT! That destroys the "fleshly minded getting justified" HERE!)
6.) Rom. 7:5 “For when we were in the flesh . . . ” (Some of us “WERE in the FLESH.” That is a PAST TENSE situation for saints, and not an ongoing pretense of a "war of the flesh," only with all pretenders-with-spots!)
7.) Rom. 8:4 “That the righteousness of the [DIVINE] LAW may be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the SPIRIT.” (“who walk not after the flesh, but after the SPIRIT,” Meaning that some of “us” must “NOT walk after the "flesh” according to these WORDS OF GOD, and not the counsel of the sinners!)
8.) Rom. 8:5 “For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh, but they that are after the SPIRIT the things of the Spirit.” (Another difference from saints and sinners, I do NOT mind/ think the things of the “flesh.” I mind the things of the SPIRIT ONLY! UN-believeing sinners can not believe some of "us' do NOT mind / think the things of the flesh!" But what do sinners know anyway, because "Those who sin have not see HIM nor do they know HIM..." 1Jn. 3: 5 ) 9.) Rom. 8:7 “Because the carnal mind is enmity against GOD, for it is not subject to the LAW of GOD, neither indeed can it be.” (Carnal mind = flesh minded = fallen minded, not risen with CHRIST! Original WORD for "flesh" is the "fallen human carnal nature!" )
10.) Rom. 8:8 “So then they that are in the flesh can NOT please GOD.” (WOW! DID you “SEE” this one! “So then they that are in the flesh cannot please GOD.” And IF there were NOT 20 PLUS other verses in the PURE WORD, and IF sinners could SEE to READ, they could SEE . . .“So then they that are in the flesh cannot please GOD.” But since they can not SEE, they side step these WORDS and get blown away, into their "fleshly" minded lame excuses the use the WORDS of GOD to stay IN SIN! Worthless servants everyone of them!)
11.) Rom. 8:9 “But you are not in the flesh, but in the SPIRIT, if so be that the SPIRIT of GOD dwell in you. Now if any man have not the SPIRIT of CHRIST, they is none of HIS.” (That is me! PRAISE THE WORD! Are you still claiming “the FLESH and HIS?" HUH?) 12.) Rom. 8:12 “Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.” (Did you really SEE "NOT after the flesh" = NOT after the flesh? Or did you see something else. Or did you wonder OFF these WORDS, before they "accomplished what they were SENT FORTH TO DO?” Did you skim, grin and go and sin?)
13.) 1Co 1:29 “That no flesh should glory in HIS presence.” (NONE = NO FLESH and NOT ONE SUB ATOMIC speck of it!)
14.) 1Co 15:50 “Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of GOD, neither does corruption inherit incorruption.” (NO flesh NOR “does corruption inherit incorruption.”
15.) 2Co 7:1 “Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of GOD.” (ALL FILTHINESS OF THE FLESH! WOW ALL of it? YES to my GOD and LORD anyway.) 16.) “2Co 10:2 “But I beg you, that I may not be seem bold when I am present with that confidence, wherewith I think to be bold against some, which think of us as if we walked according to the flesh.” (Tried to blame them of walking according to the flesh.) 17.) Gal 3:3 “Are you so foolish? Having begun in the SPIRIT, are you now made perfect by the flesh?” (Great question..... Are you?)
18.) Gal 4:29 “But as then they that are born after the flesh persecute them that were born after the SPIRIT, even so it is now.” (Even NOW today, same who are born of the SPIRIT of HOLINESS.) 19.) Gal 5:13 “For, brethren, you have been called unto liberty; only do not use liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.” ("NO liberty for an occasion to the flesh?" NONE? If any are “in the flesh" they do NOT KNOW TRUE LOVE! But they only lie to themselves! )
20.) Gal 5:16 “This I say then, Walk in the SPIRIT, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh.” ("Walk in the SPIRIT, and you shall NOT fulfill the lust of the flesh.” That is what HE said. Did you SEE the "NOT!") 21.) Gal 5:17 “For the flesh lusts against the SPIRIT, and the SPIRIT against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that you cannot do the things that you would.” ( Fleshly souls are totally “contrary” Opposed, Opposite but NO flesh rules in me! SPIRIT RULES HERE!.)
22.) Gal 6:8 “For they that sows to their flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but they that sows to the SPIRIT shall of the SPIRIT reap life everlasting.” (Does NOT sound like the “flesh” doctrine going to reap NOTHING but "corruption." Well NOT according to the TRUTH anyway!)
23.) Eph. 2:3 “Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.” (There is that "in times past" WORDs again! In the PAST = NOT ANY MORE, and saints "were the children of wrath!") 24.) Eph 6:12 “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” (Saints do NOT wrestle against flesh and blood! It’s a wrestle for just sinners "acting" like CHRIST.)
25.) Col 2:11 “In whom also you are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of CHRIST.” ("Putting OFF the sins of the flesh." HOW? “By the circumcision of CHRIST.” Still fleshly than no CHRIST!)
NO “fleshly carnal sinning Christians," NONE, just those who believe the LIE of the “FLESH” as having a will of it’s own. They even “try” to persuade others to bow to the flesh double mindedness they bow to! Loose the “flesh!” Let the SPIRIT OF HOLINESS RULE, and NOT the one with holes in HIM that allows sin to seeps thru! GET "saved!"
So I say, live by the SPIRIT, and you will never fulfill the desires of the flesh.” Gal 5:16 The phrase “you will NEVER fulfill the desires of the flesh.” only relates to a “REAL" live Christians. And if there were not hundreds of OTHER WORDS stating the exact same thing, this verse trumps ALL the lies of the "children of evil."
So save your breath, if you are "still of the flesh," carnal mind, as you are going to need that "breath of the fallen," crying out from the "lake of FIRE," for ALL ETERNITY!
No need for any DEBATES, for the real "FOLLOWER" of the WORDS stated.
So if you "believe" in STOP signs . . . there were 25 of them in a row, to STOP obeying the "flesh" with......
I pray those WORDS of TRUTH, knock you sin-staind flesh off the "temple of GOD which you are."
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