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WrenTwin: Jesus made a very real payment on the cross. Not merely a token one or hypothetical one. Otherwise, not only would He have lied when He said on the cross that, "It is finished", but also when He said in Hebrews 10:10 and Hebrews 10:14, 'that by His one sac Dec 14, 2016 1:48:53 GMT -5
WrenTwin: rifice we have been perfected once for all time'. We must also remember that sin itself has a price attached to it. Sin IS debt owed to God Himself! Notice how Jesus uses the word 'sin' and the word 'debt' synonymously:

'And forgive us our debts, as w
Dec 14, 2016 1:52:23 GMT -5
WrenTwin: e also have forgiven our debtors. (Matthew 6:12)

‘And forgive us our sins, For we ourselves also forgive everyone who is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation.’” (Luke 11:4)
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WrenTwin: The only one who can forgive any debt is the one you're indebted to. Why would Jesus tell us to ask God for forgiveness, if sin has no real debt attached to it? Dec 14, 2016 1:53:45 GMT -5
WrenTwin: David didn't say 'against the moral universe have I sinned', nor did he say 'against the heavenly host have I sinned', but 'against You ALONE have I sinned'. Dec 14, 2016 1:54:44 GMT -5
WrenTwin: He was indebted to God and God alone! Because sin itself has a very real price attached to it. Dec 14, 2016 1:55:18 GMT -5
WrenTwin: God doesn't punish sin in order to uphold some sort of universal moral standard. God punishes sin, because He IS HOLY! God is holiness Himself! He doesn't need to abide by a standard outside of HImself. Dec 14, 2016 1:55:49 GMT -5
WrenTwin: God's wrath NEEDED to be satisfied on David's behalf. This is where Christ's atonement comes in. Dec 14, 2016 1:56:22 GMT -5
WrenTwin: Christ fully paid for the eternal salvation of those who will believe, by His death on the cross. He is the propitiation for our sins. Dec 14, 2016 1:56:57 GMT -5
WrenTwin: Since Christ is an infinite eternal Being, He is the only One Who could've fully taken God's infinite wrath towards sin and still get right back up, three days later. Dec 14, 2016 1:57:17 GMT -5
salken: When is the last time someone used this chat room? are there many people ? Apr 5, 2017 0:59:29 GMT -5
WOW!: so are you saying Leonard Ravenhill is a false preacher based on? Think he was one of the most Holiness preachers. His written works set me on the straight and narrow as going to hell over a very evil abusive pastor and a so-called Christian! Oct 25, 2017 12:56:44 GMT -5
WOW!: So, your saying Leonard Ravenhill is a false preacher; based on? Personally, he was one of the most outstanding Holiness Preachers; his written works set me on the straight & narrow as WAS going to hell over a VERY EVIL ABUSIVE Pastor, so-called christian Oct 25, 2017 13:00:15 GMT -5
WOW!: So, your saying Leonard Ravenhill is a false preacher; based on? Personally, he was one of the most outstanding Holiness Preachers; his written works set me on the straight & narrow as WAS going to hell over a VERY EVIL ABUSIVE Pastor, so-called christian Oct 25, 2017 13:02:57 GMT -5
WOW!: Someone asking about John MacArthur. It would be nice if backed up with articles; sermons so we can see the Dogma? Just Google: Scandal, Negative Feedback, Controversial Articles; Abused by any name of Pastor/Church & do the reads; ALWAYS RESEARCH A MATTER Oct 25, 2017 13:13:29 GMT -5
lisabeam: Just wanted to say hello and thank you. I’m new here. Lisabeam Feb 17, 2018 10:29:47 GMT -5
bc: Sounds like the love of money has a lot of your attention josef. You want to appear as not to judge but ,like it or not.....you are judging others. Sounds like you are a small minded hater. Jul 5, 2018 20:37:59 GMT -5
www.wolvescandeceive.weebly.co: False ministers: Nov 18, 2018 18:09:21 GMT -5
pastorc: Is anyone still using these chat boards or has everyone moved to the facebook boards? Oct 18, 2019 17:03:47 GMT -5
Shawn: Jesse, what was David Ravenhill's reply to his quote? Feb 20, 2020 17:47:19 GMT -5
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