1611isperfect
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Publick preaching in Tallahassee, FL
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Post by 1611isperfect on Jan 9, 2007 17:55:59 GMT -5
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Post by cervyy on Jan 9, 2007 23:49:48 GMT -5
How can you trust the message if the Bible is wrong?!?
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Post by victorialewis on Jan 31, 2007 5:53:38 GMT -5
Cervy, you don't trust the message or ANY Bible so why do you even ask that?
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Post by cervyy on Feb 2, 2007 0:08:42 GMT -5
Cervy, you don't trust the message or ANY Bible so why do you even ask that? Wrong, I trust my Bibe! Secondly, I was just asking a helpful question for any "Christians" who might have been looking at it too. That's me, rather do good things for others then save my own soul.
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Post by victorialewis on Feb 2, 2007 10:31:42 GMT -5
Do you trust it as the Word of God? If so, and I think you have said, in other posts (correct me if I'm wrong), that you believe in Jesus Christ.
My next question is: Then why don't you trust Him when he says:
And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?
I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. Luke 13: 2,3
I will not stop praying for you, DJ. Repent while today is called today. Don't neglect so great salvation.
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Post by cervyy on Feb 2, 2007 23:55:12 GMT -5
I do believe in Him, as well as a plethora of other ideas that you don't. Remember, I also believe your Bible is flawed.
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Post by deltadom on Feb 3, 2007 22:31:46 GMT -5
Joh 5:39 - Show Context Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
This verse details that not unless you know the saviour there is noway that you can even understand the bible!!! without the Lord!!!
Jesus was the only man in history and if he died and rose again!!
John 19:31-37 31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away. 32 Then came the soldiers, and brake the legs of the first, and of the other which was crucified with him. 33 But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they brake not his legs: 34 But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water. 35 And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe. 36 For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken. 37 And again another scripture saith, They shall look on him whom they pierced.
A pierced side is fatal !!! Matt 27 57 When the even was come, there came a rich man of Arimathaea, named Joseph, who also himself was Jesus' disciple: 58 He went to Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus. Then Pilate commanded the body to be delivered. 59 And when Joseph had taken the body, he wrapped it in a clean linen cloth, 60 And laid it in his own new tomb, which he had hewn out in the rock: and he rolled a great stone to the door of the sepulchre, and departed. 61 And there was Mary Magdalene, and the other Mary, sitting over against the sepulchre. 62 Now the next day, that followed the day of the preparation, the chief priests and Pharisees came together unto Pilate, 63 Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days I will rise again. 64 Command therefore that the sepulchre be made sure until the third day, lest his disciples come by night, and steal him away, and say unto the people, He is risen from the dead: so the last error shall be worse than the first. 65 Pilate said unto them, Ye have a watch: go your way, make it as sure as ye can. 66 So they went, and made the sepulchre sure, sealing the stone, and setting a watch.
This notes that the tomb was not only sealed and watched so that noone could get in there!!
1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. 2 And, behold, there was F54 a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it. 3 His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow: 4 And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men. 5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified. 6 He is not here: for he is risen,
Note that the Angels said , he is not here , he is risen!!!
Acts 9:1-9 1 And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest, 2 And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, F17 whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem. 3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven: 4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? 5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. 6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do. 7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man. 8 And Saul arose from the earth; and when his eyes were opened, he saw no man: but they led him by the hand, and brought him into Damascus. 9 And he was three days without sight, and neither did eat nor drink.
If you want to prove a further fact that jesus is still alive ,now because paul saw him on the way to Damascus and if you havent heard who paul was, there are many other accounts of Jesus being alive!!
If Jesus is god and rose from the dead and he says that all the bible points to him and without him you cannot even understand scripture because the scripture says so!!
From Genesis to Revelation is true because Jesus says about himself
Joh 14:6 - Show Context Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
and another reason you do not want to know scripture because it will convict you of your sin and you do not want to be convicted of your sin!!
Joh 3:19 - Show Context And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
This is a simple truth the bible reveals sin including my sin which I need to repent for!!
The reason you dont want to admit the bible is true because you dont want to admit that Jesus died for your sin and you dont want to think about that because you do not want to think about your sin because you basically want to do evil!! and you do not want to turn from it because you like it !! That is why you do not believe the bible is not true, give me a yes or no answer. This is black and white!! I only want a yes or no answer!!! Is this the reason!!
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Post by cervyy on Feb 3, 2007 22:46:25 GMT -5
My, I wonder who assumes better; you or Pach. Hahahaha, you're more longwinded then he, so you get points for that.
"and another reason you do not want to know scripture because it will convict you of your sin and you do not want to be convicted of your sin!!" -You mean that i lie and look with a lustful eye? Oh heavens no, I wouldn't want to be convicted of what I JUST ADMITTED TOO. Of course not.
"The reason you dont want to admit the bible is true because you dont want to admit that Jesus died for your sin and you dont want to think about that because you do not want to think about your sin because you basically want to do evil!!" -First, can we all say 'run on sentence?' It ran away with your sanity and ability to write properly. Again, of course Jesus existed! He was also the lovechild from the lesbian loveaffair of Mary and Her Most Holy Women-ness.
Care to falsely assume some more? I'd love to hear it, just leave out the Bible verses, I skipped over those. ;D
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Post by deltadom on Feb 3, 2007 23:06:54 GMT -5
you have just proved my point
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Post by cervyy on Feb 3, 2007 23:32:41 GMT -5
That is why you do not believe the bible is not true, give me a yes or no answer. This is black and white!! I only want a yes or no answer!!! Is this the reason!! Oh my, I didn't see this question ... it's kinda hidden behind the lack of a question mark and the confusing double negative. So ... I translate it into English ... I sin because I know/believe the Bible to be true?? Of course everything I posted previously is a big long 'no.' I can see negations are a problem for you. They CAN be terribly hard to understand sometimes. However, when someone usually presents a negation to something, the rule of thumb is that is is NOT the same thing as what you said. For example, and I shall try to make this as simple as possible. When you say that I refuse to acknowledge Jesus and I in turn DO ACKNOWLEDGE him, I negate what you claim is true. The Bible makes fairly good use of grammar and thus, so should you.
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Post by deltadom on Feb 3, 2007 23:55:50 GMT -5
"Of course everything I posted previously is a big long 'no.'"
Yes
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Post by cervyy on Feb 3, 2007 23:57:23 GMT -5
"Of course everything I posted previously is a big long 'no.'" Yes Thank you for finally agreeing with me that you were clearly mistaken. Ah, progress.
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