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Post by Jesse Morrell on Aug 20, 2006 14:20:28 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4Isjq6GBxMBelieve it or not, but I, even I, have figured out how to use the wonderful YouTube! This is the first video that I have ever really put together, and this is footage from one of the first campuses we went to on our OAO campus tour last semester. I have grown and learned a lot more about open air preaching since then. And yes, this is one of those "Shock & Awe" and "desputing with sinners" type open air meeting. I honestly do hope that it be an encouragement to some, and may even help equip others...... I have explained the concept of "Shock and Awe" in this ARTICLE: openairoutreach.proboards52.com/index.cgi?board=articles&action=display&thread=1154034189And now I hope to show the practice of "Shock and Awe" in this VIDEO: www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4Isjq6GBxM
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Post by Paul Mcgrade on Aug 20, 2006 15:32:04 GMT -5
Watched the video Jesse and man I wish I could be preaching with you guys.
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Post by Miles Lewis on Aug 20, 2006 22:45:55 GMT -5
Awesome vid!
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Post by evanschaible on Aug 21, 2006 13:56:53 GMT -5
AMEN. Good preaching.
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Post by jesussaves on Aug 21, 2006 16:09:19 GMT -5
Jesse, I have noticed on your video that alot of students constantly bring up the fact that we all sin and what makes you any different than any of us.I believe alot of people are just ignorant of why Jesus died on the cross.Maybe they do not even understand that they must be born again and that Jesus becomes the propitiation for our sins if any of us do sin.Is it possible do you think that many of them just do not understand? I know that ALOT of them do though and just use that as an excuse but I do believe that alot of them are just ignorant,(no offense intended towards them) because I was once lost and I went to church as I know you were and I NEVER knew that I must be born again.If you told me to stop sinning I would probably just walk away and give up because I tried that, I went to church every Sunday ect..ect.. but I was led by the spirit of this world.
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Post by Jesse Morrell on Aug 22, 2006 13:43:54 GMT -5
I do believe that people, especially in the bible belt, do not really understand what is it to be born again, because many of them have not been born again.
So the whole concept of being a "new creature" in Christ, and that "behold all things are new" is a foreign concept to them.
I strongly believe we need much more preaching on the experience of being born again, and how radically your character and conduct changes when this happens.
It's not that you become a better person, but rather a new person!
It's not that you merely clean up your life, but you recieve new life all together!
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Post by Kerrigan on Aug 22, 2006 14:42:59 GMT -5
I do believe that people, especially in the bible belt, do not really understand what is it to be born again, because many of them have not been born again. So the whole concept of being a "new creature" in Christ, and that "behold all things are new" is a foreign concept to them. I strongly believe we need much more preaching on the experience of being born again, and how radically your character and conduct changes when this happens. It's not that you become a better person, but rather a new person! It's not that you merely clean up your life, but you recieve new life all together! Amen Jesse! I think this is missing in the preaching of most O/A preachers!
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Post by jesussaves on Aug 22, 2006 15:32:29 GMT -5
Maybe that is what alot of people are actually trying to say when they say things like "We all sin", "Don't you sin?", "You can't stop sinning" and on and on. What they may actually be trying to say is "I can't stop!" They don't understand being born again and probably most certainly not the work of the holy spirit.
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Post by Jesse Morrell on Aug 22, 2006 16:04:38 GMT -5
Typically, the people that say such things, are trying to come up with an excuse to justify and permit their sin.
It's not that they can't stop sinning, but that they won't stop sinning. It's not that they are not able, but that they are not willing.
Of coarse sinners can stop sinning. God commands them to repent, and He doesn't send them to hell for failure to perform the impossible.
A liar can stop lying A theif can stop stealing An adulterer can stop commiting adultery A blasphemer can stop blaspheming and so on on on it goes.
God holds us accountable to our sin, because we never had to commit the sin, but we willing choose to do so.
So it's not really a matter of ability, but it's a matter of the will.
They do not hunger and thirst after righteousness, which is why they are not filled with it.
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Post by Kerrigan on Aug 22, 2006 16:10:00 GMT -5
Jesse, do you believe that a lost sinner can stop sinning? My understanding of what the Word says is that they are slaves to sin. The only thing that can give them the ability to live a Holy life is for them to Repent, put their Faith in Christ and become Born Again. Then the Spirit enables them to live a Holy Life...
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Post by Jesse Morrell on Aug 22, 2006 16:15:26 GMT -5
Yes a sinner is capable of stopping his sin. That is why God "commands all men everywhere to repent."
God only commands the possible. He doesn't require apples from peach trees. He doesn't cut down and burn peach trees for not bearing apples.
But his stopping his sin does not justify him before God. "Without holiness no man shall see the Lord" and also, without the Lord, no man shall see holiness.
Though a sinner is capable of not sinning, which is why God punishes him, he needs the cross of Jesus Christ to have a right legal standing with God, for the forgiveness of the sins he willfully choose to commit.
But yes, a sinner does not have to sin.
John Fletcher really hammers this in his "Checks to Antinomianism".
He tells a story about a traveler going to a country.
On the road he sees a carriage driving by full of gold that says, "Free Inheritance!".
He asks a man on the road about the carriage and the man says, "Oh, our Lord gives away a free inheritance every day to a random person. He is so good, that he gives it away freely without conditions, upon the person he chooses."
A few minutes later, another carriage drives by with man locked in chains. The carriage says, "Free execution". He asks the same man about this carriage and the man says, "Oh, our Lord is so just, that every day he picks somebody to execute."
The man says, "Well, do the men do anything to deserve this execution?"
The other man says, "Oh yes. They very much deserve it indeed. You see, when they were small children, the Lord has the parents break the legs of the child and not allow them to heal. And now that they are full grown, the Lord asks them to run a race, and when they fail to run the race, the Lord has them executed."
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Post by Kerrigan on Aug 22, 2006 23:31:58 GMT -5
I started a thread concerning what I asked Jesse on SermonIndex. You can find it here.
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Post by Kerrigan on Aug 22, 2006 23:36:22 GMT -5
P.S. This was not meant to try to attack Jesse or anything. I am just interested in what others think about what I asked. I think I have things right, but it is always good to see what God has revealed to others through the Scriptures..
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Post by Jesse Morrell on Aug 22, 2006 23:45:47 GMT -5
No worries Karrigan. This is a very good question!
Can a sinner stop sinning?
Does God command all men everywhere to repent when he knows that no sinner, anywhere is capable of repenting?
Does God send men to hell for failure to do the impossible?
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