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Post by ebrayley on Feb 21, 2007 2:51:12 GMT -5
I love Charles Spurgeon, and those who are familiar with him will agree that his Biblical exposition and command of the English language is a truly wonderful combination. What I love most about Spurgeon is that Jesus Christ is central in all his preaching; he magnifies Christ and humbles man. This book focuses on the greatest subject of all: the death and resurrection of our Lord.
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Post by Jesse Morrell on Feb 22, 2007 17:14:19 GMT -5
He was a great soul-winner. I have much respect for what he did. Just be careful of his Calvinism, especially the Limited Atonement.
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Post by tbxi on Feb 22, 2007 20:25:00 GMT -5
Au contraire... that was what made him the theologian and preacher that he was. If one dear saint of God had perished, so might all; if one of the covenant ones be lost, so may all be; and then there is no gospel promise true, but the Bible is a lie, and there is nothing in it worth my acceptance. I will be an infidel at once when I can believe that a saint of God can ever fall finally. If God hath loved me once, then He will love me for ever. God has a master-mind; He arranged everything in His gigantic intellect long before He did it; and once having settled it, He never alters it, "This shall be done," saith He, and the iron hand of destiny marks it down, and it is brought to pass. "This is My purpose," and it stands, nor can earth or hell alter it. "This is My decree," saith He, "promulgate it, ye holy angels; rend it down from the gate of Heaven, ye devils, if ye can; but ye cannot alter the decree, it shall stand for ever." God altereth not His plans; why should He? He is Almighty, and therefore can perform His pleasure. Why should He? He is the All-wise, and therefore cannot have planned wrongly. Why should He? He is the everlasting God, and therefore cannot die before His plan is accomplished. Why should He change? Ye worthless atoms of earth, ephemera of a day, ye creeping insects upon this bay-leaf of existence, ye may change your plans, but He shall never, never change His. Has He told me that His plan is to save me? If so, I am for ever safe. "My name from the palms of His hands Eternity will not erase; Impress'd on His heart it remains, In marks of indelible grace." I do not know how some people, who believe that a Christian can fall from grace, manage to be happy. It must be a very commendable thing in them to be able to get through a day without despair. If I did not believe the doctrine of the final perseverance of the saints, I think I should be of all men the most miserable, because I should lack any ground of comfort.
from www.spurgeon.org/calvinis.htm
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Post by sean on Feb 22, 2007 21:19:49 GMT -5
Au contraire... that was what made him the theologian and preacher that he was. If one dear saint of God had perished, so might all; if one of the covenant ones be lost, so may all be; and then there is no gospel promise true, but the Bible is a lie, and there is nothing in it worth my acceptance. I will be an infidel at once when I can believe that a saint of God can ever fall finally. If God hath loved me once, then He will love me for ever. God has a master-mind; He arranged everything in His gigantic intellect long before He did it; and once having settled it, He never alters it, "This shall be done," saith He, and the iron hand of destiny marks it down, and it is brought to pass. "This is My purpose," and it stands, nor can earth or hell alter it. "This is My decree," saith He, "promulgate it, ye holy angels; rend it down from the gate of Heaven, ye devils, if ye can; but ye cannot alter the decree, it shall stand for ever." God altereth not His plans; why should He? He is Almighty, and therefore can perform His pleasure. Why should He? He is the All-wise, and therefore cannot have planned wrongly. Why should He? He is the everlasting God, and therefore cannot die before His plan is accomplished. Why should He change? Ye worthless atoms of earth, ephemera of a day, ye creeping insects upon this bay-leaf of existence, ye may change your plans, but He shall never, never change His. Has He told me that His plan is to save me? If so, I am for ever safe. "My name from the palms of His hands Eternity will not erase; Impress'd on His heart it remains, In marks of indelible grace." I do not know how some people, who believe that a Christian can fall from grace, manage to be happy. It must be a very commendable thing in them to be able to get through a day without despair. If I did not believe the doctrine of the final perseverance of the saints, I think I should be of all men the most miserable, because I should lack any ground of comfort.
from www.spurgeon.org/calvinis.htmwhile all that sounds nice I've never read anything by Spurgeon addressing the verses that warn believers of falling away. Just because he's a good speaker doesn't override scripture. Do you know of any text by Spurgeon that covers those verses?
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Post by tbxi on Feb 22, 2007 23:38:19 GMT -5
Eh... I know he probably does. There is a vast amount of material by Spurgeon over at spurgeon.org. I wasn't trying to make an argument with that post, per se, but I was just making a point of how very calvinistic the man was. I'm not interested in arguing eternal security. You may read the discussions I've had with darc if you wish I am quite happy that I agree with you, at least on the KJVO issue Sean.
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