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Post by jesussaves on Sept 7, 2006 21:23:34 GMT -5
I could use some prayer about my job.My husband wants me to work but than when I have to be at work at 5:00 am in the morning and can't go to church he gets upset. I have to be at work at 5 am. on Sunday because I have to set a salesplanner, it's my responsability.Ive never wanted to work to begin with but I need to and actually I really like my job and don't want to quit.If I had it my way I would just be preaching the gosple and serving the Lord, that's all Ive ever wanted to do. I feel pulled in so many different directions.We planned on going to Night of Joy at Disney World with my two older children but I can't go because of work.Now my husband wants me to just tell them I can't be there which is going to get my manager upset with me. You know all of my life it has ALWAYS been like this, seriously! It doesn't matter what I do it's NEVER enough.So please pray for me because I feel like Im going to have a meltdown!!!!!
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Post by oap001 on Sept 7, 2006 21:32:09 GMT -5
Well, you have enough courage to open air preach. I say take the plunge and quit your job. You have a family and soon your kids will be grown. It just ain't worth missing for a job....that you could probably pick up anytime. Just quit......
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Post by cervyy on Sept 8, 2006 3:50:11 GMT -5
If you really do need, maybe you could work something out with your boss?
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Post by jesussaves on Sept 8, 2006 6:39:56 GMT -5
I just told one of my LODs that I would not be able to be back in time for the salesplanner and SHE was understanding.Who knows how it will go with the rest.I have a STL store manager and 4 other LODs, one of which has it in for me. It reminds me of when Jesus told Peter that there will come a day when men will gird you up and take you places where you don't want to go.Starting out I never wanted to take this job and now that I conceded to it and rather enjoy it now I am being girded up and carried somewhere else. This IS my life.For some reason it's what the Lord has ordered for me.The Lord gives and the Lord takes away.Blessed be the name of the Lord. I don't know why this continually happens to me.The things that I want to do I am not able and the things that I don't want to do I get comfortable with and then they are taken away.I know the apostle Paul said that what ever state I am to therewith be content.I am constantly driven to all kinds of situations.There never seems to be anywhere to lay my head so to speak.The son of man had nowhere to lay his head. Your taken to all kinds of places when your a christian.If your ever taken to somewhere where you want to be ,be thankful and if not still be thankful and just bless the Lord.
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Post by jesussaves on Sept 16, 2006 14:21:39 GMT -5
We did go to Night of Joy with our kids after all and we had a great time.TobyMac was really good in concert.His stage performance was great.Jeremy Camp had 2 performances back to back and he wasn't that great in concert surprisingly.He threatened to body slam some kid in the audience.He was kinda like half joking.That was really strange.Casting Crowns was awesome.The lead singer is a youth pastor.They sang that song "Praise You In This Storm." We camped out at FortWilderness.Weve been doing that every year, our kids love it. I haven't been able to do much of anything lately because of work.Someone from our overnight crew put out some street dated movies before the street date and cost the store 3 thousand dollars.They charge you a thousand dollars for every movie sold before the street date.It's been really stressful at work.Im glad I wasn't there though.They had me in Clearwater at the time.Ive been so busy lately.My kids are having a sleep over at their aunts house so its actually quiet here now!
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Post by darcfollowingjesus on Sept 16, 2006 15:51:43 GMT -5
sister, I hear your frustration loud and clear. I truly believe, for all of us that call on the name of Jesus, there's going to be this, especially now. what i mean is with what's happening in this world right now i believe God is going to awaken His children for a mighty purpose of evangelizing in these last days like no other time in recent history and it will be brought about by the mighty hand of God. Such as with this Navy chaplin. to let you know i'm facing as major cross roads as well. i have a choice of continuing doing what i'm doing as a construction superintendent, traveling around the usa building stuff or surrender and take an offer at a full time ministry evangelizing and helping a brother with his open air calling. i would err to the side of asking God for clear direction, dotted with obedient faith. but the most important part is you want to know for sure that it is your calling from God and not get out there and then find out it wasn't. amen? make it a matter of intense prayer, specific prayer.
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Post by jesussaves on Sept 16, 2006 16:34:19 GMT -5
It is VERY frustrating to me but it shouldn't be because frustration is not from the Lord.Im just concentrating on being a living epistle and if I get an opportunity now and then to OA or whatever great.It really does take alot out of you to do OA if you want to do it right and not go out there unprepared.My mind is 70% on my job right now and 30% on my family.I can't change my circumstances only God can. Im very tired today.Last night I was driving back to work and my car started smoking so I had to pull over and I found out it was an electrical problem.Ater I pulled over I called my boss to tell him I wouldn't be able to come back into work tonight because of my car and he was understanding at first but then he hung the phone up on me.He just wasn't in a good mood because somebody messed up those street dates.He wouldn't answer me on the walkie all night either.It's hard to be around worldly people all day long, it wears on you. Thank God my kids are at their aunts house tonite.I love my kids but it's nice to get a break from them.
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Post by victorialewis on Sept 16, 2006 20:43:42 GMT -5
I love the fact that God is pretty clear on what He wants from us women. I know that He wants us to be keepers at home, yet to be in submission to our husbands. If your husband wants you to work, I believe it is scriptural to stay in your job. That being said, I would like to encourage you to begin praying that God bring you home. Part of that involves asking God to give you a DESIRE to be home. When we women work outside the home, it's very easy to begin enjoying the money, independence, and kudoes which often come with the job - getting our satisfaction from things outside our God-given sphere of influence. But sister, I speak from experience when I say that your time at home, especiallly with your children, is very short in light of eternity. Our grown children (Miles included) don't remember with fondness the furniture we owned, the cars we bought, or even the toys we bought them with all the 'extra' income....it is our relationship with the Lord and one another that makes the lasting impact.
God HAS given you full-time ministry. It's in ministering to your husband, then your children, and if He also allows other godly activities - well, they fall in behind. A job outside the home robs you of the best hours of your day, leaving very little for anyone else (and eventually this means God, too!). Training up children to love the Lord is priceless. Loving your man like God intended, and giving him encouragement and comfort as he struggles in the working world is priceless. Please don't fall for the lies of the enemy that we can have it all. We can't!
I say all of this in love, sister, because I was once where you are now, to a certain extent. But God changed my heart with regard to the gift He'd given me in Sherman, Derek, Miles and Allie. I knew that I needed to submit to Sherm, who did not want me to leave teaching (I was making more money than HE was!). So, I submitted myself to the Lord, and to my hubby. After two years of being on my knees in my classroom during my planning period, He miraculously took me out of teaching. I was blameless! And my submissive attitude spoke volumes to my (then) unsaved husband. God was faithful, and we actually are better off financially now than we were then. I had two years of learning to live on one income, gave up being covetous about 'things', and learned to be content! It was awesome, because I serve an Awesome God who holds the heart of the king in His hand....
If you are interested, I have a wonderful book by Debi Pearl called "Created to Be His Help Meet" which our church gives out free of charge. Just PM me.
I'll be praying for you sister!
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Post by cervyy on Sept 16, 2006 20:49:29 GMT -5
Girl, this is your life!! Go and live it how you need and want it. You're your own women! No, womyn!! Listen to this guy, be a feminist!!
Submitting yourself to God is one thing, but just simply submitting yourself to a man?! That's wrong!! Go with the spring time of your youth!!
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Post by victorialewis on Sept 16, 2006 20:54:50 GMT -5
Like I said, don't listen to the lies of the enemy....
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Post by cervyy on Sept 16, 2006 20:59:14 GMT -5
You are given in this age, an oppurtunity to be the person past generations COULD not. They may haver wanted it, but they just couldn't.
I would rather have a free women then an enslaved women (perchance like you now?)
If you being enslaved means we are enemines (like Victoria states) then that is YOUR choice, not God's. Be enslaved, I force nothing upon you.
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Post by jesussaves on Sept 16, 2006 21:40:03 GMT -5
Thanks Victoria, your the most godly woman I know to this day. I just talked to my husband about leaving my job and he is still not ready for me to do that.My job is just extra income or else I wouldn't think of quitting. Ive heard people say that when christian women work you don't see the money because God doesn't honor it.We have had strange things happen like my car breaking down, the refigerator breaking down, anything that will take my paycheck happens. I have been praying that I can leave my job.Im not as close to the Lord as I used to be and I don't have a burden for the lost like I used to either because I don't have as much time to think about those things. When I come home my housework is still waiting for me!
Cervy, I appreciate the fact that you don't believe women should be treated like slaves, that's a good thing.
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Post by victorialewis on Sept 18, 2006 11:55:58 GMT -5
Cervy,
I want you to know that I don't have any animosity against you. God's Word tells us:
If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. ( Romans 12:18)
That being said, I'd like to clarify what I meant by 'lies of the enemy'. I believe that anything which contradicts the truth of God's Word has its foundation in our ancient foe, Satan.:
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. (John 8:44)
It is a lie that tells women/men that they can do anything they want. Even civil law backs this up. As a former feminazi, I know plenty about feminist philosophy. It causes much misery, bitterness and hatred. Even as an unbeliever, I knew that the role reversal my husband and I were living wasn't right. I just wasn't hearing the truthful reasons why from the media, my friends, my family, etc. When I finally submitted my life to Christ, was born-again and received the Holy Spirit, I began to understand God's design. He actually broke the chains of my bondage (to the sins of rebellion, hatred, bitterness, strife), and I am now experiencing freedom in ways I never thought possible. There is peace in our home, in my marriage and with our children.
I don't enjoy debating any longer (did much of it for the first 40 yrs of my life), but I couldn't let your statements pass by without countering them with the truth.
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Post by victorialewis on Sept 18, 2006 12:06:11 GMT -5
Rebecca,
I know exactly what you mean about money slipping away! Our pastor preached on the 'devourers' (sp??) one time. It happened with us. I was earning tons of money (teachers are well-paid here in Onondaga County), yet my car engine blew up (it was only about 4 yrs old at the time), our house caught fire, things broke, our house was robbed, etc. It was strange!
This is even stranger. When God finally brought me home, our income dropped nearly $36,000 per year, yet we never missed a beat! We were able to buy a nice home on my husband's income (before I even knew that I was going to come home) after years of renting. We bought the first new car we'd ever owned and paid it off after three years. These are just some of the financial benefits which happened after I quit my job. The peace which reigns in our home cannot be given a monetary value. Seeing my husband become a new man who is a strong leader now, both in our home and at church, is nothing short of amazing! Having very little stress in my life is another. (I was on Prozac for several years until I was saved)
I could go on and on....because I love to praise God for His faithfulness and for His goodness to me and to my family.
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Post by luketentwo on Sept 19, 2006 14:21:56 GMT -5
Mom, (Victoria)
You have some wise words!
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Post by jesussaves on Sept 19, 2006 19:40:28 GMT -5
Now I remember, it was Bill Gothard who said that when women work you don't see the money.It's really funny because if you ask most christian women who work if they ever see the difference financially when they are working and they will tell you no.My mother in law got a job and I always tease her about whether or not if it is making a difference and she'll laugh and say "no, but it keeps me busy." She just doesn't like to be home all the time and I get tired of it after awhile too but than my work at home gets left undone and I don't have enough time for my family. We actually had MORE money when I was at home because I plan my grocery shopping better, hang the clothes on the line instead of using the drier, cook on the grill instead of using the oven and I had a vegtable garden too but now it's all full of weeds.We had a $250.00 dollar power bill because of using the drier.
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Post by victorialewis on Sept 19, 2006 21:03:10 GMT -5
My mother in law got a job and I always tease her about whether or not if it is making a difference and she'll laugh and say "no, but it keeps me busy." She just doesn't like to be home all the time and I get tired of it after awhile too but than my work at home gets left undone and I don't have enough time for my family. My DH said that I would probably be bored within three months of coming home. I was not, but only because God worked in my heart to begin looking at my husband/children/home as my primary ministry. I began to learn how to really be good at what I did there. Our daughter, Allie, spent the last four years at home learning how to cook, sew, clean, mother, etc. She is a Proverbs 31 woman, and when they have their baby next April, I know that she will be an excellent mom. Shawn, I give the Lord ALL the credit because in me, by myself, there is no good thing. Thank you, though; you are an encourager! You know that He has already given us all we need for godliness and life in His Word. Hallelujah! I am constantly amazed at the kindness, mercy, longsuffering and love of our Almighty God....
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Post by jesussaves on Sept 20, 2006 9:09:41 GMT -5
I home schooled all of our kids, most up to the 4th grade.Now they are in a public school and they are doing really well.It's such an honor to be able to teach your kids how to read.That alone was worth it all. Now I could teach anyone how to read.I have this full proof method now, but Im sure everyone has their own method of teaching. Im still learning all of the things my mother was never able to teach me like canning and my neighbor is teaching me how to sew.I want to learn how to sew by hand first the old fashioned way and than I may buy a sewing machine but it's so much easier to just sit down on the sofa and sew while Im listening to my CD player. My neighbor is in her 80's and she was raised in the foothills of West Virginia and her and her sister used to wash the laundry using a wash board and a basin.When she sews she doesnt even use a pattern.
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Post by victorialewis on Sept 20, 2006 17:51:41 GMT -5
Wow! I really admire women who can sew without a pattern. We were blessed to have Allie apprentice with the seamstress who took care of our DIL's wedding gown. Allie learned a lot, and passed some of it on to me. (Though I grew lazy while she was at home as she did nearly all of my sewing for me!) My DH once commented that sewing was practically a lost art. I agree. As Christian women, we are called to modesty, and that is becoming increasingly difficult in this day. Everthing looks like lingerie to me! Hence, the need to know how to sew. (I'll confess that I haven't learned to sew a skirt that fits me quite like C J Banks' do)
I too like to work on something while I'm just sitting, listening to sermons/music, etc. Currently I'm working on our daughter and SIL's wedding quilt....well, I need to RETURN to working on it. Tomorrow for sure. I can't begin the new baby's quilt until the wedding one is finished. (my rules, no one else's)
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Post by jesussaves on Oct 1, 2006 8:45:15 GMT -5
HELP! I need prayer again!!! Ive been working at Target and I am the entertainment specialist.Everyone I have talked to so far says that it's ok to put cd's, movies, books on the shelf that have to do with witchcraft, sexual immorality ect. but I had a bad dream last night.This is really scary and it was almost for real in my dream.Now tell me if you think this is not demonic: I fell asleep last night in my living room.In my dream I was asleep at Target and there was noone there but me and the lights were out.I was at guest services and I was sleeping really hard, I was SO tired.In my sleep I heard someone groaning and I was bearly able to raise my head and open my eyes to look up I was that tired.When I finally looked up I saw a woman a guest services and her eyes were white because they were rolled into the back of her head and she was waiting on me to wait on her.I put my head back down because I was really tired and I thought this is just a bad dream and I need to get up and find my way back to my husband.Finally I for real got up out of the living room and went and told my husband about my dream.So what do you think? Another thing, the only time people come to guest services is to return items ect. It could be in the dream she bought something in my department and thats why she had a look of death.I may be reading into this but I don't think so.Also I think there is alot of significance to me being so tired in my dream. My husband says I can't quit till I find something else.I repented of taking this position and now it's out of my hands and into the hands of the Lord and my husband.
I have to put all kinds of garbage out on the shelf.I really need either another job or another position in another department so please pray for me.
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