Post by Jesse Morrell on Jan 16, 2006 22:53:34 GMT -5
Avery is an amazing brother. I have had the opportunity to preach with him many times.
And certainly if Peter had never repented, he would have perished. If you deny Christ, Christ will deny you. That is the Law and no man is exempt from it - not even Peter. The soul that sins it shall die. Unless you repent you will perish. The wages of sin is death. Sin seperates man from God. So if a man commits sin and does not repent he is seperated from God, and thus seperated from Salvation, for there is no salvation outside of Christ.
This is a really good quote from this thread:
"If a person's experience is unscriptural then their experience is not right. You don't make the Bible fit your experience you make your experience line up with the Bible."
Of course no preacher should preach over his own head. Unless you walk in holiness, you cannot preach holiness. Unless you have repented, you cannot preach repentance. I am one of MANY who testifying of experiencing the blessing of holiness. The common miss-conception is that holiness teaches that a Christian is not capable of sinning. Certainly a Christian is just as capable of sinning as a non-christian. Rather, the bible teaches that a Christian will choice to obey God, this is called The Lordship of Christ. When it comes to the Captain of our Salvation, both loyalty and mutany is possible on our part. Just as a man does not have to obey, neither does a man have to disobey.
Haven't we read in the bible that no temptation is without a way of escape? And no temptation is more then we are able to bear? And no commandment of God is burdensome? Is it not true that God only asks and requires of man that which is possible? And that through Christ we can be more then conquorers through Him that strengthens us? That our faith overcomes the world, and with Paul we can say we are "free from sin"?
Now if perfection is living your entire life without sin, I am far from it. But if we are talking about obeying God willingly rather then willingly disobeying God, then that is every Christian. While I have sinned in the past, and I am capable of sinning in the present and in the future, I am not living or committing sin right now. Praise the Lord. And by the grace of God, none of us ever will again!
But you will never live holy if you don't believe you can. You will never win a war you already have determined to lose. Sanctification is by faith. Do you have the faith that God is willing to answer every prayer that says "Oh God make me holy!" Does that sound like the type of prayer God would refuse to answer? If it is your will to be holy, and it is Gods will for you to be holy, don't you think He will give you all that you need in order to obey Him and "keep" His "commandments" - as the New Testament says time and time again regarding keeping commandments?
"Now unto Him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy" Jude 24.
PS. Guys, I am very impressed how all of you have shown the fruits of the Spirit while discussing some of the most sensative issues of Christian theology. I think that this excercise is wonderful, benificial, and desperately important.
And certainly if Peter had never repented, he would have perished. If you deny Christ, Christ will deny you. That is the Law and no man is exempt from it - not even Peter. The soul that sins it shall die. Unless you repent you will perish. The wages of sin is death. Sin seperates man from God. So if a man commits sin and does not repent he is seperated from God, and thus seperated from Salvation, for there is no salvation outside of Christ.
This is a really good quote from this thread:
"If a person's experience is unscriptural then their experience is not right. You don't make the Bible fit your experience you make your experience line up with the Bible."
Of course no preacher should preach over his own head. Unless you walk in holiness, you cannot preach holiness. Unless you have repented, you cannot preach repentance. I am one of MANY who testifying of experiencing the blessing of holiness. The common miss-conception is that holiness teaches that a Christian is not capable of sinning. Certainly a Christian is just as capable of sinning as a non-christian. Rather, the bible teaches that a Christian will choice to obey God, this is called The Lordship of Christ. When it comes to the Captain of our Salvation, both loyalty and mutany is possible on our part. Just as a man does not have to obey, neither does a man have to disobey.
Haven't we read in the bible that no temptation is without a way of escape? And no temptation is more then we are able to bear? And no commandment of God is burdensome? Is it not true that God only asks and requires of man that which is possible? And that through Christ we can be more then conquorers through Him that strengthens us? That our faith overcomes the world, and with Paul we can say we are "free from sin"?
Now if perfection is living your entire life without sin, I am far from it. But if we are talking about obeying God willingly rather then willingly disobeying God, then that is every Christian. While I have sinned in the past, and I am capable of sinning in the present and in the future, I am not living or committing sin right now. Praise the Lord. And by the grace of God, none of us ever will again!
But you will never live holy if you don't believe you can. You will never win a war you already have determined to lose. Sanctification is by faith. Do you have the faith that God is willing to answer every prayer that says "Oh God make me holy!" Does that sound like the type of prayer God would refuse to answer? If it is your will to be holy, and it is Gods will for you to be holy, don't you think He will give you all that you need in order to obey Him and "keep" His "commandments" - as the New Testament says time and time again regarding keeping commandments?
"Now unto Him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy" Jude 24.
PS. Guys, I am very impressed how all of you have shown the fruits of the Spirit while discussing some of the most sensative issues of Christian theology. I think that this excercise is wonderful, benificial, and desperately important.