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Post by Jesse Morrell on Apr 19, 2006 21:29:49 GMT -5
1Co 10:31 - "Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God."
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Post by hopefulheart on Apr 19, 2006 21:34:10 GMT -5
ok good, then we're in agreement! If this serves the purpose of a reminder and helps me to stay on the right course, it's all good. Thanks ^_^
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Post by jefffuller on Apr 20, 2006 14:22:20 GMT -5
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Post by hopefulheart on Apr 20, 2006 18:53:29 GMT -5
I have now. Annnd... what's your point? How does that relate?
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Post by darcfollowingjesus on Apr 20, 2006 19:15:30 GMT -5
HOPRFULHEART YOU WROTE: "And to darc, as you said, to what degree do you take your argument? I hope you don't eat any more than the bare minimum for a meal. Clothes you wear, too. In fact, I hope you don't own anything that you could go without. You're being hypocritical, else"
Greetings in the name of Jesus. hopefulheart....you asked a question and I responded with what my convictions are that's all. I'm sorry it got you. I merely told you what works for me based on what the Word says. and I would assume we all believe that it is the Word that we guage our lives by, if we are following Christ. Yes? The degree I take my argument is this. I don't own a house, car or any other things such as hobbys because of what Christ said and the Lord through Paul "Go! I am sending you out like lambs among wolves. Do not take a purse or bag or sandals; and do not greet anyone on the road." (Luke 10:3,4) and "Take nothing for the journey—no staff, no bag, no bread, no money, no extra tunic. Whatever house you enter, stay there until you leave that town. If people do not welcome you, shake the dust off your feet when you leave their town, as a testimony against them." (Luke 9:3-5) and then "For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it. But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that." (1Tim 6:7,8) and there are many other commands that lend to this thread of truth through the Word. What the Lord wants us to do is obey Him and do what He says. Amen? I am not saying I'm perfect in this at all, what I am saying is this is the tune I march to and those are the question I ask myself. It is a matter of honoring and pleasing my Lord in everything I do with every effort. I could go on and on about how the Lord has impressed me through His Word regarding this issue but the point is what does the Word say? I don't even pretend to know everything there is to know about everything there is to know. God has revealed the truth about Matthew 6:21 and I have a very big conviction about it. It doesn't matter to me what you or anyone else says about it, what does the Word say? What does the Word say?
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Post by valentine on Apr 20, 2006 19:57:05 GMT -5
The degree I take my argument is this. I don't own a house, car or any other things such as hobbys because of what Christ said and the Lord through Paul "Go! I am sending you out like lambs among wolves. Do not take a purse or bag or sandals; and do not greet anyone on the road." (Luke 10:3,4) and "Take nothing for the journey—no staff, no bag, no bread, no money, no extra tunic. Whatever house you enter, stay there until you leave that town. If people do not welcome you, shake the dust off your feet when you leave their town, as a testimony against them." (Luke 9:3-5) and then "For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it. But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that." (1Tim 6:7,8) I'm just curious, darcfollowingjesus, but where are you typing this from? Do you own a computer?
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Post by hopefulheart on Apr 20, 2006 20:00:38 GMT -5
Oh, it didn't 'get me' at all =) I was only furthering the discussion - isn't that what these boards are for?
Don't make assumptions - they're baaaad, hehe. I know there are many here who do, but I don't try to fit my life within every single statement of the Bible. I don't think it's flawless. And to be honest, people who do tend always make me think of the Pharisees, following the Law to a T and such. Not saying that that's an accurate comparison, simply stating that it reminds me of such.
Now, as for Matthew 6:21... Yes, I own things. And yes, I may buy things for their aesthetic purposes. Those things, however, are not my utmost 'treasures'. I treasure love.
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Post by darcfollowingjesus on Apr 21, 2006 18:03:24 GMT -5
Valentine, I don't know you or anyone on this board yet except Miles and maybe a few others, so let me first say I am a Christian saved by the washing of my sins away by the precious blood of the Lamb. By Grace alone, by faith alone, in Jesus alone. I love my Lord and Savior Jesus because of what He has done for me on the Cross and continues to do for me day by day. ;D If you are a Christian or are not I love you just the same. I thank the Lord for each of you! Now, as far as what I am typing on that's not the issue is it? This that I'm typing on is for work. It is not something I bought for my own personal use it was bought because of the line of work I'm in. Trust me Valentine, I will be the first to tell you that I am not perfect in regard to doing everything the Word tells me I should do, for the right reasons or motives I should, not because that's my desire but that is the struggle. I falter and fail from time to time just like everyone when it comes to being obedient to the Word, but the attitude of my heart is one of servitude to my Lord. (Galatians 2:20) My focus is on my Lord and not on the things of this world. (Col. 3:2) Hopeful, YOU WROTE: "but I don't try to fit my life within every single statement of the Bible. I don't think it's flawless." I need to ask you if you consider yourself to be a Christian, because with this kind of statement it tells me that you're not trusting in the same truth as I am and so I wonder with which Word were you saved by? The Bible, God's Word, is infallible and inerrent, without flaw. (2 Tim 3:16) This is something that can be proven over and over again. Instead of me proving that to you though, you prove to me what you have stated. Show me where the Holy Word of God is with flaw or error. I stand on every word of the Bible as the only truth that exists. In Christ, darc
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Post by valentine on Apr 21, 2006 19:01:31 GMT -5
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Post by biblethumper on Apr 22, 2006 21:32:37 GMT -5
People quote Leviticus 19:28 to "prove" that the marks/tats of the OT era are the same as the ones today...that's a bogus argument, because if we take such a verse to mean tats, then what about the verse ABOVE verse 28?
Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.
If anyone has not followed this pattern then, by Biblical standards, you have no Biblical grounding to speak to anyone on tats if your hair is not styled as Leviticus states it MUST be.
See my point?
I have two tats (Davidic Stars on each hand), which I had done as a Believer, and I was years into my walk with the Lord.
I didn't get them for witnessing or to be more spiritual or to be rebellious; I got them because I enjoy the Star of David that much.
Would I get more?
Absolutely....
Do I want to?
Not really, but in the future I may.
The point is that the Word of God cannot be used as a weapon against what it says nothing about.
We all believe (at least I hope we do!) that Scripture interprets Scripture.
We believe in the law of first mention (Genesis).
We believe in Biblical Exegesis.
People use one verse to "prove" a point of personal opinion...
However, it's just as easy to say that water baptism is a requirement for Salvation (it is NOT; I am only making a point) by referring to Acts 2:38.
Tats are neither good nor evil.
A tat doesn't lie, cheat, fornicate or blaspheme.
Man is the one who comitts such acts.
When I die and stand before my Lord He'll judge me based on the deeds OF my body; not what's ON my body.
Amen
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Post by hopefulheart on Apr 25, 2006 12:25:27 GMT -5
Alright Darc, a simple contradiction is all it takes, right? If one book of the Bible says one thing and another book says something different, but only one can be true... so, look up the geneaologies of Jesus in both Luke and James (I believe those are the two). There's an important difference. One of them alters the geneaology to force the number 14 into play.
Oh, and thank you, BibleThumper
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Post by darcfollowingjesus on Apr 26, 2006 12:25:35 GMT -5
Alright Darc, a simple contradiction is all it takes, right? If one book of the Bible says one thing and another book says something different, but only one can be true... so, look up the geneaologies of Jesus in both Luke and James (I believe those are the two). There's an important difference. One of them alters the geneaology to force the number 14 into play. Oh, and thank you, BibleThumper You'll have to be more specific than that hopeful. The number 14? And what is the point of this question/statement in regard to the topic at hand Christian Tattoos? i have a need to know
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Post by hopefulheart on Apr 26, 2006 15:30:02 GMT -5
In response to this, Darc: The Bible, God's Word, is infallible and inerrent, without flaw. (2 Tim 3:16) This is something that can be proven over and over again. Instead of me proving that to you though, you prove to me what you have stated. Show me where the Holy Word of God is with flaw or error. I stand on every word of the Bible as the only truth that exists.Because it IS off-topic, here's a redirect: openairoutreach.proboards52.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=talk&thread=1145928848&page=1
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