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Post by biblethumper on Jul 13, 2006 21:17:47 GMT -5
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Post by rebecca01 on Jul 13, 2006 21:22:53 GMT -5
Im wondering if this is the fulfilling of Obadiah???
Obadiah 18 And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and their shall not be ANY MORE remaining of the house of Esau; for the Lord hath spoken it.
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Post by rebecca01 on Jul 14, 2006 3:21:58 GMT -5
Man I can't sleep with all of this fighting going on and I have to go to work in the morning!!! 4:18 am!!!! I guess I will go watch the news for a while.
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Post by newsong on Jul 14, 2006 3:35:15 GMT -5
Please visit this link. Its called the time of Jacobs trouble Art Katz was preaching on this when he was in UK in May what would happen to Israel. That things would be worse than the holocaust and also the Churches part in the end times towards the Jews. He said they have to be jealous of his Church and how there isnt anything on the whole in the Church today would make them jealous to be saved. He was calling the church to wake up and be what he is calling it to be. A good site for artilcles on Jerusalem and the end times. The meat of the word. Many will hate the Jews even some in the Church. They are Gods chosen people he has not forgotten them but we have a part to play in reaching them for the Lord. He will turn his attention once again to the Jews. We are in the end times although we were saying this 33 years ago we are at the end. Many say 10 - 15 years left at the tops but maybe sooner. www.benisrael.org/OnlineBooks/jacobs_trouble.htmInfact he was saying that the pre rapture where all the gentile Christians leave the Jews are left but this is not so because if they left who would he here to save them to bring the true Gospel to the Jews. He spoke of it as an urgency and something that must be done an major part of the end times that is being overlooked. That many do not even think about the Jews. Once when in UK he spoke to a crowd of Anglican Pastors as he went on to speak about Gods plan for the Church and end times concerning Israel they all walked out, they did not want to hear it. He was left with the tea boy. You will have to read it on his site but thats why (mid trib).
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Post by newsong on Jul 14, 2006 7:02:02 GMT -5
When Jerusalem is surrounded by the nations:- Heres some news of world reaction
In quotes: Lebanon reaction
Israeli troops fire artillery shells in southern Lebanon Israel has launched a broad military operation in Lebanon Israel has imposed a military blockade on Lebanon and launched a series of missile strikes and cross-border raids in response to the capture of two soldiers by militant group Hezbollah.
Key international and regional powers have been responding to the escalating conflict.
US PRESIDENT GEORGE W BUSH
My attitude is this. There are a group of terrorists who want to stop the advance of peace. And those of us who are peace-loving must work together to help the agents of peace - Israel, President Abbas, and others - to achieve their objective.
Israel has the right to defend herself. [But] whatever Israel does should not weaken the government in Lebanon. We have been working very hard through the UN and partners to strengthen democracy in Lebanon.
Syria must be held to account. President Assad needs to show some leadership towards peace.
EUROPEAN UNION STATEMENT
The European Union is greatly concerned about the disproportionate use of force by Israel in Lebanon in response to attacks by Hezbollah on Israel. The presidency deplores the loss of civilian lives and the destruction of civilian infrastructure. The imposition of an air and sea blockade on Lebanon cannot be justified.
AMIR PERETZ, ISRAELI DEFENCE MINISTER
We will not allow Hezbollah to return to the positions it occupied along the border before the soldiers were abducted. Only the Lebanese army should operate in this area and deploy forces. If the Lebanese government does not deploy its armed forces as a sovereign government should, we will not allow Hezbollah forces to move again onto the other side of the border.
We will no longer put up with a terrorist organisation threatening residents in northern Israel with the support of a sovereign government.
SAMI KHIYAMI, SYRIAN AMBASSADOR TO THE UK
We have good contacts with them [Hezbollah] but after all, they have occupied territory, they have prisoners in the Israeli prisons and they have aspirations that we have to respect. So we contact them. We tell them to calm down, to come to terms. But the Israelis have on their side to stop the state terrorism on the one hand and to come to the negotiation table, whether direct or indirect, with these people in order to release the prisoners of both sides.
ABOUL GHEIT, EGYPTIAN FOREIGN MINISTER
Targeting civilians under the pretext of fighting terrorism is unacceptable and unjustified. Israeli practices violate international law. We condemn any military action that targets civilians. We consider it a terrorist act, regardless of who the civilians are or its source.
JORDANIAN GOVERNMENT STATEMENT
Jordan stands against whoever exposes the Palestinian people and their cause, Lebanon and its sovereignty to unexpected dangers. Israel's use of force against unarmed civilians and the outcome in terms of the human loss and destruction of civil institutions.
RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT STATEMENT
One cannot justify the continued destruction by Israel of the civilian infrastructure in Lebanon and in Palestinian territory, involving the disproportionate use of force in which the civilian population suffers.
We firmly reaffirm support for Lebanon's sovereignty and territorial integrity. All forms of terrorism are completely unacceptable. All sides involved in the current events should take rapid measures to stop the region sliding into open conflict.
ANGELA MERKEL, GERMAN CHANCELLOR
We call on the powers in the region to seek to bring about a de-escalation of the situation. We cannot confuse cause and effect. The starting point is the capture of the Israeli soldiers.
It is important that the government in Lebanon, which is on a peaceful path, should be strengthened, but it must be made clear that the capture [of the soldiers] cannot be tolerated. The attacks did not start from the Israeli side, but from Hezbollah's side.
PHILIPPE DOUSTE-BLAZY, FRENCH FOREIGN MINISTER
We obviously condemn this disproportionate act of war, which moreover has two consequences. The first is that it forces anyone who wants to enter Lebanon from now on to go either by sea or via Syria. The second consequence is that it risks plunging Lebanon back into the worst years of the war.
Today there is a risk of a very dangerous spiral of violence which could destabilise the entire region.
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Post by biblethumper on Jul 14, 2006 7:17:01 GMT -5
Lord, we stand here united for the Peace of Jerusalem, that You would cause a rest to come and a peace which passes all understanding.
Lord God, move in Israel as Your Word declares that those who touch the Apple of Your Eye (Israel) are touching You.
We thank You, Father God, that You know the end from the beginning and in this do we hope; that You will bring the Peace to Your People that Your Son promised would come.
In Jesus Name,
Amen.
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Post by rebecca01 on Jul 14, 2006 7:35:42 GMT -5
AMEN!!!
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Post by biblethumper on Jul 14, 2006 19:49:42 GMT -5
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Post by tomah on Jul 23, 2006 4:57:07 GMT -5
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Post by Miles Lewis on Jul 23, 2006 23:45:32 GMT -5
Armen! Haven't seen you in a while. Great to hear from you.
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Post by HSTN2983 on Jul 24, 2006 0:36:49 GMT -5
the war has started? your god invented it, and you long for armageddon so you are pushing the envelope in that direction--intentionally!
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Post by Doc H on Jul 25, 2006 21:44:03 GMT -5
"And I will make of thee a great nation...And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee...Gen 12:2-3
Let us ALL be in prayer for the nation of Israel!
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Post by HSTN2983 on Jul 25, 2006 23:13:48 GMT -5
i am praying for the people you guys refuse to....
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