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Post by oap001 on Aug 9, 2006 16:39:41 GMT -5
California Activist Hopeful Governor Vetoes Pro-Homosexual Education Bills Dems Pushing a 'Torrid Flood of Immorality' on State, He Says By Jim Brown and Jody Brown August 9, 2006
(AgapePress) - A pro-family activist warns that California's State Assembly will likely pass a bill tomorrow that will turn every government-run school in the state into a sexual indoctrination center.
The bill, sponsored by lesbian state senator Sheila Kuehl, would have required public schools to study homosexual historical figures. But Kuehl and her supporters, fearing a certain veto from Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, have now amended SB 1437 to prohibit teachers and textbooks from "reflecting adversely" on individuals because of their sexual orientation. The Los Angeles Times reports, however, that even with the changes, the governor has provided "no encouraging signal that he would change his mind" about vetoing the legislation. Schwarzenegger's press secretary stated the governor will not sign a bill "that micromanages curriculum that is better left to the state Board of Education."
Randy Thomasson Randy Thomasson, who heads the Sacramento-based Campaign for Children and Families (CCF), says recent amendments -- which Kuehl says gutted about 90 percent of the "import" of the bill -- are merely window dressing. SB 1437, he says, "continues to require every textbook, all instructional materials, all school-sponsored activities to positively portray transsexuality, bisexuality, and homosexuality, including homosexual marriages, to six million California schoolchildren" -- some as young as kindergarten.
Thomasson has described Keuhl's legislation as a "sexual-agenda bomb dressed up as a child-caring Easter egg." He contends that pro-homosexual legislators, such as Keuhl, want voters to believe SB 1437 merely updates school anti-discrimination policies by incorporating such terms as "gender" -- which the CCF leader says includes transsexuality and transvestitism -- and "sexual orientation" -- which means bisexuality and homosexuality, he notes.
"But the bill is ultimately about requiring transsexual, bisexual, and homosexual textbooks, instruction, and school activities," says Thomasson, "because not promoting these sexual lifestyles would 'reflect adversely' on them."
According to the family advocate, Californians have more than just one education bill to be concerned about. "The State Assembly of California will likely pass SB 1437 and SB 1441, the second bill, which will force Christian colleges and universities in California to promote transsexuality, bisexuality and homosexuality," he says. "It's a torrid flood of immorality that's being pushed by the Democrats in California."
CCF is also calling on Governor Schwarzenegger to veto AB 606 and AB 1056, which Thomasson describes as two more "school sexual indoctrination" bills -- both of which were expected to pass out of Senate committee this week. But the governor may decide not to veto any of the pro-homosexual legislation if he does not hear from pro-family Californians, notes Thomasson.
AB 606 would authorize the state superintendent of education to withhold state funds from any district that does not adequately promote transsexuality, bisexuality, and homosexuality in its school policies. AB 1056 would authorize expenditure of a quarter-million taxpayer dollars to promote those aberrant sexual lifestyles under the banner of "tolerance education
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Post by oap001 on Aug 9, 2006 21:11:26 GMT -5
What should one do if he or she finds themselves in this kind of "training" either at work or school? Should a Christian opt out..or go to the classes?
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Post by oap001 on Aug 10, 2006 1:00:07 GMT -5
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Post by wkufan on Aug 10, 2006 2:04:58 GMT -5
What should one do if he or she finds themselves in this kind of "training" either at work or school? Should a Christian opt out..or go to the classes? My first thought is take the government back...
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Post by HSTN2983 on Aug 10, 2006 7:07:25 GMT -5
promote and offer is two different things...
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Post by wkufan on Aug 10, 2006 11:44:23 GMT -5
promote and offer is two different things... By offering it, it is promotion--gives it an aire of legitmacy. How about a "offering" a class on "How to be a good Nazi"? They wouldn't be promoting it, would they? The bigger question is: Who gives schools the authority to teach versions of morality? This has nothing to do with academic qualities of cognitive learning....it's indoctrination of thought.
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Post by Jesse Morrell on Aug 10, 2006 15:10:39 GMT -5
That is exactly what it is.
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Post by cervyy on Aug 11, 2006 23:23:03 GMT -5
here's your first mistake, reading agapepress ... no AGAPE there. how about something a bit more reliable?
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Post by HSTN2983 on Aug 14, 2006 11:24:48 GMT -5
pacp and wkufan. homosexual education means teaching safety, awareness and understanding of the homosexual community. this does not mean that there will be professors acting on behalf of the homosexual community trying to 'convert' heterosexuals into homosexuals. they do not work like christians do in the sense of the great commission. this is why there is a difference between offering classes and promoting it. the students are offered the opportunity to learn about it, but they will not be forced to take it, yet if they promoted it then they would be asking people at the end of class if they wanted to dedicate their lives to the homosexual way.
this is simply ridiculous. you guys need to get a serious grip on reality. no one is out to kill you, and no one wants you to be gay. no one wants to steal your children and abort them, and no one is trying to convince you to worship satan--except maybe satan himself...and i havent seen him around...ever...kinda like god.
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Post by oap001 on Aug 14, 2006 13:16:39 GMT -5
Well your wrong the classes are mandatory and there are unlawful civility codes in many places. What do you think the reasons for the arrests are for? They are enforcing unlawful speech codes.
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Post by wkufan on Aug 15, 2006 0:35:03 GMT -5
pacp and wkufan. homosexual education means teaching safety, awareness and understanding of the homosexual community. this does not mean that there will be professors acting on behalf of the homosexual community trying to 'convert' heterosexuals into homosexuals. they do not work like christians do in the sense of the great commission. this is why there is a difference between offering classes and promoting it. the students are offered the opportunity to learn about it, but they will not be forced to take it, yet if they promoted it then they would be asking people at the end of class if they wanted to dedicate their lives to the homosexual way. . I disagree. What's "safety" have to do with education? It has nothing to do with academic standards, but has all to do with condoning a "value" that others want established. Hey, if the schools talk about it, it must be ok. If they were worried about "safety", then they'd be promoting the way to save a person from the eternal wrath of God. The only awareness people need to understand is that's a sin, just like any other sin. If it sounds like I don't trust their intent, I don't. Morality "teaching" is an element reserved to parents. Not of an educational institution. It has nothing to do with reading, writing and 'rithemtic. And they're over-stepping their bounds. I don't know what your comments mean in relation to this discussion. But if you haven't seen satan around, then you've not looked around, you're in denial or intentionally hiding your eyes. Let me ask you, why wouldn't they have a class on the KKK that teaches safety, awareness and understanding? I mean, the Grand Wizard is just a person with feelings too, right? Doesn't he have the right to live his life the way he chooses? Let's not be intolerent.
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Post by HSTN2983 on Aug 15, 2006 9:35:08 GMT -5
wkufan, do not be ignorant, the kkk is not a sexual behavior so its completely irrelevant to the topic...but nice try. i think you guys need to read into what is going on a little more. a homosexual curriculum would most likely be taught in health class. we all had health class in middle school. half of the class was health, dietary habits, etc and the other half was sexual education.
this is where the curriculum would be inserted.
i sincerely doubt that an entire class would be created for promoting homosexuality and called mandatory for all junior high students.
the first reply i made on this post i was thinking of college. however, i was mistaken. however, you guys are making the mistake taking all this from agape press. i doubt half of its true...its all christian propaganda and made out to be a worst case scenario.
you should probably read the bills for yourself. post it here, before saying 'i have' and then undermining everything i say. i want to see for myself if all this is true...or christian hype.
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Post by oap001 on Aug 15, 2006 12:16:19 GMT -5
The agape press article contained facts that can be verefied through other sources. The sodomite indoctrination training occurs in college diversity classes (not health class) and also our civil servants must go through the same kind of training. They take pledges to be ALLIES with sodomites and they are told if they believe homosexuality is wrong that they are homophobic. Just pick your favorite University (on the web) and look up the office of multicultureism or social equity or the womens center or queer department. It wil most likely be on their pages that they provide "training" for the University. Then search sensivity or diversity training and it will probably give you a sechdule of the classes and who is attending. They may even list what outside company has trained the university diversity instructors, usually in train the trainer programs. You can then go to that web site and examine the material for yourself. Remember these people are state employed educators. It's turning them into state employed diversity "change agents" and they are attempting to change the thought landscape permently. When even their police are certified "change agents"..how would open air preachers even have a chance? That is why it is so important to take any greviances to either FIRE or the ADF. www.thefire.org/index.php/article/5826.html
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Post by bullhornbob on Aug 15, 2006 21:52:59 GMT -5
The agape press article contained facts that can be verefied through other sources. The sodomite indoctrination training occurs in college diversity classes (not health class) and also our civil servants must go through the same kind of training. They take pledges to be ALLIES with sodomites and they are told if they believe homosexuality is wrong that they are homophobic. Just pick your favorite University and look up the office of multicultureism or social equity or the womens or queer department. It wil most likely be on their pages that they provide training for the University. Then search sensivity or diversity training and it will probably give you a sechdule of the classes and who is attending. Oh dear Lord Jesus, help the OA preachers to reach these students before the sodomites do! Lord, provide for them gas and food and clothing and BOLDNESS to stand against the sodomite agenda on these campuses. Break the satanic grip on the hearts and minds of the students, and those seeking to indoctrinate the world with the filth of sodomy. Lord God, anoint your preachers now! Give them words of truth and conviction! Help them to stand in the face of adversity, and to give a true answer to every demonic heckler, to every sincere heart as well! Christ is returning soon! Warn everyone!
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Post by oap001 on Aug 16, 2006 6:54:19 GMT -5
This was a good case. Adjust Font Size: A A A Penn State revokes unconstitutional speech codes after ADF intervention Monday, May 22, 2006, 9:30 AM (MST) | ADF Media Relations | 480-444-0020 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Comments HARRISBURG, Pa. — In another victory for students on college and university campuses, Pennsylvania State University officials have agreed to revoke the school’s speech code shortly after the Alliance Defense Fund filed suit challenging the code in federal court. “America’s colleges and universities should give conservative and religious students the same rights as all other students. This is an excellent outcome for those who believe that universities are supposed to be the marketplace of ideas,” said David French, director of ADF’s Center for Academic Freedom. “The old draconian speech codes were unconstitutional because they enabled university officials to engage in blatant viewpoint discrimination. The new policies make it impossible to punish a student expressing his or her viewpoint simply because someone finds that speech offensive.” The significant revision in speech code policy followed a lawsuit filed by ADF attorneys on behalf of Alfred Joseph “ A.J.” Fluehr, a Penn State student who feared that he would be punished under university policies that banned any “attitude, feeling, or belief” that showed contempt for, among other things, political beliefs. The university recently used these policies to prohibit a student from displaying an art exhibit designed to protest the culture of terrorism in the Palestinian territories. “Penn State will better serve its students and academia in general now that it has revoked the old policy, which discouraged open discussion on campus,” said French. “Colleges and universities should welcome the free exchange of ideas, and we hope that Penn State’s actions will demonstrate to universities that the age of the speech code is over.” A copy of Penn State’s new policies on speech can be read at guru.psu.edu/policies/AD29.html and guru.psu.edu/policies/AD42.html. A copy of ADF’s complaint in the case Fluehr v. Pennsylvania State University (which quotes Penn State’s original speech codes) can be read at www.telladf.org/UserDocs/FluehrvPennStateComplaint.pdf. ADF is a legal alliance defending the right to hear and speak the Truth through strategy, training, funding, and litigation.
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Post by HSTN2983 on Aug 16, 2006 11:22:34 GMT -5
pacp, i know what you are talking about. i attended the university of alabama and was an anthropology/religious studies major. we studied culture. we studied the behavior of humans. however, it was only an elective to take a class on homosexual behavior.
p.s. i was a member of the gay/straight alliance.
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Post by oap001 on Aug 16, 2006 12:10:40 GMT -5
pacp, i know what you are talking about. i attended the university of alabama and was an anthropology/religious studies major. we studied culture. we studied the behavior of humans. however, it was only an elective to take a class on homosexual behavior. p.s. i was a member of the gay/straight alliance. Yes, I know that about you Dusty. Your one that was indoctrinated in university. You use words like, "free from fear" and so on. Strangely in these speech codes, that are unconstitutional, they talk about being free from fear. It's code for, submit to moral relativism...don't oppose homosexuality. ...spritual violence...and so on. Its an invention of sodomites and their enablers to silence the Gospel. Wake up... you were fooled....they don't care about you.
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Post by HSTN2983 on Aug 16, 2006 12:15:58 GMT -5
hmm. no, i was never brainwashed in college. brainwashing involves professors teaching agenda. i was never taught a certain agenda, but a wide array of scenarios and situations and histories, etc. i do believe in moral relativism, and i believe that homosexuals--and any special interest group--deserves to be treated as equal humans. however, i believed this before i entered college...and i sure as hell did not learn it at highschool.
i learned it on my own. you, on the other hand, are the one who believes in one text and ignores the rest of the world...
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Post by oap001 on Aug 16, 2006 12:17:14 GMT -5
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Post by oap001 on Aug 16, 2006 12:19:13 GMT -5
No they don't allow ideas that would hurt your feelings Dusty.
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Post by HSTN2983 on Aug 16, 2006 12:21:54 GMT -5
note: you posted something from 'thefire.' this is enough to discredit everything you say.
i am a fool for treating people like people?
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Post by oap001 on Aug 16, 2006 12:25:54 GMT -5
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Post by oap001 on Aug 16, 2006 12:27:24 GMT -5
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Post by oap001 on Aug 16, 2006 12:29:56 GMT -5
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Post by oap001 on Aug 16, 2006 12:32:19 GMT -5
University Police? Everything I said was true. They practice community policing. Residential Life Community Oriented Policing Program (COP) The community oriented policing program uses a philosophy of full-service, personalized policing where the same officer is assigned to a specific geographical area on a permanent basis, working in a proactive partnership with citizens to identify and solve problems. Officers work out of satellite offices located within the residential areas they serve. The focus of community oriented policing is not simply on responding to crime, but on preventing crime and resolving community problems. Boy you "guys" got your hand on them. How do they treat preachers? police.ua.edu/about.html
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Post by oap001 on Aug 16, 2006 12:38:46 GMT -5
And here you have it. Sodomite diversity training that squashes all desent. It wasn't very hard to expose this was it Dusty? I'm sure there is more but we'll let it go for now. Scroll all the way down to policies and such. This is quite alarming. bama.ua.edu/~safezone/get.html
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Post by oap001 on Aug 16, 2006 12:44:31 GMT -5
I want to make one thing very clear to everyone here. This policy here applies to visitors of the college as well. So here the campus police have taken an assortment of gay indoctrination training. They and other will attempt to sensitize the community. This is embeding activists into law enforcement and academina. Its a very..very serious violation of our civil rights. Are you beginning to understand what is occuring when you guys preach?
Training and Development
Homophobia and other "diversity" workshops should be implemented for the entire campus community to sensitize and educate staff, faculty, and administrators.
They are preforming social engenearing in the proformance of their law enforcement duties. The policy says to sensitize the entire community.
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Post by HSTN2983 on Aug 17, 2006 11:22:20 GMT -5
hmm. i see nothing that says, "students are required to take _____ classes." so, no, you have proved nothing to me other than that you are a homophobe that thinks that homosexuals are animals unworthy of rights.
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Post by oap001 on Aug 17, 2006 13:28:49 GMT -5
hmm. i see nothing that says, "students are required to take _____ classes." so, no, you have proved nothing to me other than that you are a homophobe that thinks that homosexuals are animals unworthy of rights. Homophobia and other "diversity" workshops should be implemented for the entire campus community to sensitize and educate staff, faculty, and administrators Not only are there these classes for the entire community. Moral relatavism is included in every class. The speech codes are in effect so anyone who objects are labled homophobic. Look at the polices I listed they said to affirm homosexuality. My people are comming this semister to universities across America. Homosexuality will not be affirmed by them. People will get offended and they will not submitt to the school's idea of moral relativism. But they will preach the Gospel. Now isan't that what is really genial for the students.
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Post by jolieprincess3 on Aug 23, 2006 21:53:52 GMT -5
I think the one part about forcing Christian schools to require them to say postive things about homosexuality is absurd. It's like telling a devout Jewish person to say it's okay for you to eat pig. The whole idea is awful.
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