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Post by racward on Jan 30, 2007 17:18:49 GMT -5
Dear Friends,
For the past few years, our ministry has endorsed and worked very closely with another ministry called The Great News Network (GNN). Many of you first learned about GNN through our website, one of our newsletters, or on our radio program. We know that some of you are members of GNN and will therefore be greatly saddened by the following announcement. Please know that we share in that sadness, and thank you in advance for your gracious understanding.
Due to growing concerns involving the direction of The Great News Network, the leadership of Living Waters Publications and The Way of the Master has decided to withdraw our ministry’s endorsement of GNN. These serious concerns were greatly compounded by a recent letter issued by the Network’s founder, entitled: “Warning! A Storm is Coming!” Our ministry strongly disagrees with both the severe tone of the letter and the disturbing ministerial philosophy engendered therein. Living Waters and The Way of the Master will no longer be working in conjunction with GNN in ministry outreach efforts, nor will we be recommending GNN to the friends and supporters of our ministry. We greatly regret this recent measure, but feel that it is most necessary for the good of our ministry and all those involved.
We sincerely value your faithful prayers in the days and weeks ahead. We are truly appreciative of your sacrifice of love as you continue to labor with us for the furtherance of the gospel.
Living Waters Publications / The Way of the Master
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Post by alan4jc on Jan 30, 2007 17:26:51 GMT -5
I received this same e-mail from living waters
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Post by Devon on Jan 30, 2007 22:30:47 GMT -5
Dr. Dino sentenced to 10 years. Now GNN and WOM break. I wonder what's next on the horizon???
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Post by josh on Jan 30, 2007 23:14:37 GMT -5
I have now withdrawn myself from the great news network and also the Brisbane, and Gold Coast team due to their unbiblical stance. Please pray for the network and all involved. The Brisbane team has issued a 9 page reply to GNN detailing the unbiblical stance they have taken, but have received no reply.
This is a sad day.
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Post by jonathanhulewicz on Jan 30, 2007 23:15:49 GMT -5
Dr. Dino sentenced to 10 years. Now GNN and WOM break. I wonder what's next on the horizon??? Kent Hovind is doing great things in jail. Already 5 people saved. He is teaching math and science to. From what I know his son is looking after the ministry now. It's a blessing that WOTM split from GNN.
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Post by tonyholland on Jan 31, 2007 11:18:55 GMT -5
It's a blessing that WOTM split from GNN. I hardly think it is a "blessing". Regardless of your opinion of either ministry, there is nothing good about this type of division.
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Post by alan4jc on Jan 31, 2007 11:51:44 GMT -5
I think we will see more of what Darrels letter talked about, playing out here on the boards. Do you guys genuinely feel closer to the brothers you have argued with over doctrine and theology. How about towards the ones who have said you are WRONG and even been seemingly hateful towards you?
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Post by Jules on Jan 31, 2007 12:06:38 GMT -5
I think many saw this coming. My prayer is for Darrel to not just be remorseful and admit he made a mistake, but for God to show him specifically how it came to this (which certainly wasn't overnight) and the weaknesses inherent in GNN that may have contributed.
From his letter, Darrel was surprised by this turn of events, despite his prophetic "warning"...which to me indicates some degree of deception on his part (let me clarify: him being deceived himself, not being a deceiver). Whether or not that deception was a result of his own personal sin or corporate sin within GNN, I won't get into here as it is not my place and I don't know his heart. He's clearly not certain why this happened and that is discouraging, only because we all need to learn from this situation.
On the upside, whatever our personal opinions on the matter, what sin we see or saw, etc...I think it changes nothing in terms or the relationships made as a result of GNN/WOTM and Livingwaters, (as evidenced here on this board), it doesn't change the teams already in place because we will certainly still go out and preach regardless, and it doesn't change the message we are preaching. So praise be to God as His gospel will continue to go out, despite this...He is a big God after all, not dependent on us.
If anything, this should stand as a benchmark warning to us all. I'm sure every individual will eventually learn something from this about their own sin, wrong perspectives, priorities, etc. For me, it was that the local church and going out under the authority of a local church was lacking when I was involved in GNN, and GNN even replaced the local church for me. ANd when it didn't replace the church after I joined one, it always stood in competition against it. Since becoming part of a local church and submitting to the authority of my pastor there, I have placed myself within the Biblical guidelines and feel I am now being obedient. Whether it be a home church or brick and mortar building, it doesn't matter, but I'm convinced through Scripture that we all need a local Body of believers with a Biblical organizational and leadership structure in place. If that makes sense.
Isolation breeds rebellion. And Proverbs makes it clear what constitutes a foolish man vs a wise one, and 99% of the time it concerns having access to and receiving godly counsel and oversight. So for me, that is what I learned from all of this.....
that said, and after being convicted of my own mistakes regarding GNN, I will pray Darrel will seek out godly counsel, accountability, and place himself under the authority of a pastor and elders, and that God will redeem the damage done, (not by bringing the organizations back together, but by being glorified in the days to follow) For others who saw differently based on their own convictions and sin, their prayers will undoubtedly differ. But bottom line is we pray God be glorified. And I'm sure we all will.
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Post by jonathanhulewicz on Jan 31, 2007 21:05:00 GMT -5
It's a blessing that WOTM split from GNN. I hardly think it is a "blessing". Regardless of your opinion of either ministry, there is nothing good about this type of division. Being separate from unbiblical teachings is a command.
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Post by sean on Jan 31, 2007 21:28:38 GMT -5
I hardly think it is a "blessing". Regardless of your opinion of either ministry, there is nothing good about this type of division. Being separate from unbiblical teachings is a command. Most of the people on this board are not fundamental baptist and do not hold to their beliefs. Why do you still come here? Shouldn't you have separated yourself a long time ago and found a fundamental baptist board so you can all agree in doctrine?
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Post by jonathanhulewicz on Jan 31, 2007 22:09:57 GMT -5
I believe the King James Bible that is where I get my beliefs from, not the fundamental baptists.
Am I fellowshipping with people on ths board? No
I come here to learn/discuss different Bible issues and get enouraged by the witnessing encounters.
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Post by sean on Jan 31, 2007 22:13:50 GMT -5
I believe the King James Bible that is where I get my beliefs from, not the fundamental baptists. Am I fellowshipping with people on ths board? No I come here to learn/discuss different Bible issues and get encouraged by the witnessing encounters. So you get encouragement from people you would not be allowed to fellowship with?
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Post by jonathanhulewicz on Jan 31, 2007 22:37:07 GMT -5
I am encouraged to hear the gospel going out. Like the apsotle Paul said:
'What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.' (Phil 1:18)
Just to make it clear no church tells me I can/'t fellowship with different christians. It is my own personal convictions based on the Word of God.
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Post by Doc H on Feb 1, 2007 0:15:41 GMT -5
It's a blessing that WOTM split from GNN. I hardly think it is a "blessing". Regardless of your opinion of either ministry, there is nothing good about this type of division. Yes it is if the 'ministry' is unbiblical which it is.
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Post by Doc H on Feb 1, 2007 0:22:01 GMT -5
Being separate from unbiblical teachings is a command. Most of the people on this board are not fundamental baptist and do not hold to their beliefs. Why do you still come here? Shouldn't you have separated yourself a long time ago and found a fundamental baptist board so you can all agree in doctrine? You are clearly confused about biblical and ecclesiastical separation. It is good for us to discuss differences in doctrine and try to understand different points of view. I have learnt a great deal debating my fellow street preachers and it has caused me to study the Scriptures in more depth. In the end Whitefield and Wesley did not fellowship with one another but they continued to debate their differences in a cordial and Christian manner.
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Post by Doc H on Feb 1, 2007 1:21:20 GMT -5
Most of the people on this board are not fundamental baptist and do not hold to their beliefs. Why do you still come here? Shouldn't you have separated yourself a long time ago and found a fundamental baptist board so you can all agree in doctrine?
Actually I am a member of an IFB board.
The trouble is that we agree on almost everything so the debates are not as stimulating as they are here.
When you get to my age one's brain needs continual stimulation ;D
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Post by John McGlone on Feb 1, 2007 3:40:27 GMT -5
Doc, we joined an IFB church here in Hawaii almost a year ago. What IFB board are you part of?
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Post by Doc H on Feb 1, 2007 4:48:16 GMT -5
Doc, we joined an IFB church here in Hawaii almost a year ago. What IFB board are you part of? Just google online baptist and that should do the trick. Doc H
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Post by Jesse Morrell on Feb 1, 2007 13:39:29 GMT -5
Anyone who publicly calls sinners to repentance and faith is MORE then welcome on these boards!
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Post by josh on Feb 6, 2007 10:15:55 GMT -5
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