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Post by oap001 on Mar 21, 2007 6:29:45 GMT -5
Monday, March 19, 2007 Feminist Fumes Over 'Purity Balls' by Lee Duigon "The press... just doesn't get religion." --William Schneider, CNN Only a women's studies professor would find it "profoundly disturbing" when fathers and daughters try to promote chastity; and only the out-of-touch media would think of hiring a women's studies prof to analyze a religious issue. Writing for USA Today, Mary Zeiss Stange, a professor of women's studies and religion at Skidmore College, New York, discussed the growing popularity of "purity balls" (see "A dance for chastity," www.blogs.usatoday.com/...). The point of a "purity ball" is to celebrate the father-daughter bond and try to strengthen it so that the girl will be better able to resist the temptation of premarital sex. While acknowledging that "girls benefit in their mental and emotional development in direct proportion to quality time spent with their fathers," Prof. Stange nevertheless finds that these dances smack of "the most pernicious aspects of patriarchal religion." Far more valuable than chastity, she says, is a girls' "sexual self-agency," by which she means a girl's freedom to be promiscuous, if she so chooses. Stange also protests that the girls' mothers are "irrelevant" to these chastity commitments, and sees in it all an insidious process that "puts women and girls in their place." But this is like complaining that celebrating the Fourth of July slights Christmas. Why should building up the bond between father and daughter be seen as a zero-sum game for the mother? Only a feminist would see it so.Professor Stange is a member of USA Today's board of contributors, and often publishes her musings on a religion which neither she nor her editors understand. But then the media always go to unbelievers when they wish to discuss religion. William Schneider was right. Can anyone in his right mind argue that de-emphasizing fatherhood and encouraging girls to be promiscuous have done good things for our society? But that's feminism for you.
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Post by shetani on Mar 21, 2007 14:40:55 GMT -5
You know, Pat, smart girls know better than to behave like subservient little mice around their daddies. Hell, you should see what I do to mine.
Yo Pat - if women are to be meek baby machines, why am I so much smarter than you?
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Post by oap001 on Mar 21, 2007 16:13:50 GMT -5
I bet you have really hurt his feelings at times to know that you are like that.
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Post by cervyy on Mar 21, 2007 22:55:52 GMT -5
Eww, I didn't know Pat would be peddling father/daughter smut. Shame on you.
And I laugh at the false stereotypes you endorse.
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Post by oap001 on Mar 22, 2007 12:22:53 GMT -5
Eww, I didn't know Pat would be peddling father/daughter smut. Shame on you. And I laugh at the false stereotypes you endorse. Did you ever read Rosie O'Donnell's autobiography called "Find Me"? Her mother died when she was a teenager and her father became deeply depressed and turned to alcohol. She wrote that she had no gender roles in her home and no love from her father. The more you embrace your anger you turn more completely to the dark side. You'll become increasingly cold and dark and unhappy. You are completely unable to free yourself..... It you want to have life and have it abundantntly.......'look and live"......come to Jesus the way He wants you to....as a little child. Humble yourself.....confess that He is God in the flesh and that He died for the sins of mankind and rose victorious from the grave...that in His site you are a sinner...and turn your entire life over to Him..trust Him as savior. Then you will know what it means to live a victorious life.
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Post by cervyy on Mar 22, 2007 12:27:12 GMT -5
No I have not read that. Autobiographies usually bore me.
Patty-cakes, stop making me laugh. You're the one with the Vader avatar, you shouldn't be telling others about their anger. Which, by the way, I'm seriously kinda lacking. So ONCE AGAIN, you probably have assumed something about me and tried to make me see the error of my non-existant ways with another useless post. Kudos, God is proud you ASSuME worngly.
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Post by oap001 on Mar 22, 2007 12:29:29 GMT -5
Hey the avatar is you......remember in the movie Luke was in transition to the "dark side"......he was becomming like the person he hated.
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Post by oap001 on Mar 22, 2007 12:32:33 GMT -5
God would have scene him the same way he saw vader.
Don't waste you're time holding a grudge or hating...forgive.
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Post by cervyy on Mar 22, 2007 12:32:34 GMT -5
Hey the avatar is you......remember in the movie Luke was in transition to the "dark side"......he was becomming like the person he hated. Oh know! I'm becoming an insecure closeted homophobe!?! ... wait, no I'm not! ;D Sheesh Patty, you had me worried there for a second with insane logic! 'Sides, never was much of a Star Wars fan. But even I can tell the comparision is SERIOUSLY lacking.
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Post by oap001 on Mar 22, 2007 12:35:02 GMT -5
Hey the avatar is you......remember in the movie Luke was in transition to the "dark side"......he was becoming like the person he hated. Oh know! I'm becoming an insecure closeted homophobe!?! ... wait, no I'm not! ;D Sheesh Patty, you had me worried there for a second with insane logic! 'Sides, never was much of a Star Wars fan. But even I can tell the comparision is SERIOUSLY lacking. If I'm not hitting home with you then it applies to someone else. It seams that all you are is a indifferant.....its a dangerous condition.
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Post by shetani on Mar 22, 2007 14:43:53 GMT -5
I love how Pat uses a movie based on Buddhism and wicked Eastern philosophy to peddle his deluded tripe. Good one. Even better is how you admonish Cerv for supposed hatred while you have admitted to hating and wanting to kill homosexuals in the past. Jayzus had a pet peeve, you know - hypocrites. Fxck the Dark or Light side, man. I pick bounty hunter. (Oh, and my father seems more than pleased to have a smartarse like me for a kid. It makes him feel accomplished.)
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Post by oap001 on Mar 22, 2007 18:36:38 GMT -5
I love how Pat uses a movie based on Buddhism and wicked Eastern philosophy to peddle his deluded tripe. Good one. Even better is how you admonish Cerv for supposed hatred while you have admitted to hating and wanting to kill homosexuals in the past. Jayzus had a pet peeve, you know - hypocrites. Fxck the Dark or Light side, man. I pick bounty hunter. (Oh, and my father seems more than pleased to have a smartarse like me for a kid. It makes him feel accomplished.) It's not a perfect analogy....hey listen I watched this video the other day. It was of this preacher walking to an open air event. These so called anti racist people were yelling at him..."stop harassing queers". Then the video pans and you hear him tell the crowd that there is hope in Jesus Christ. See these anti racist people...all of whom are not gay think that homosexuals are queers and they should stay that way. Thats cruel....I don't think of them like that. I want them to know that there is hope for them. www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N0sPuNS_D8
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Post by cervyy on Mar 22, 2007 23:05:14 GMT -5
An imperfect analogy for your imperfect God. Gots it. Seriously Pat, everything you post lacks sincerity. I can tell because you forgot to add your favorite part so it SHOULD read like this. "I want them to know that there is hope for them. And if they don't change their ways to matchn my outward ones, then they can go to jail and/or be put to the sword."
Now THAT'S the Patty we know is beneath that Vader mask.
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Post by oap001 on Mar 22, 2007 23:53:27 GMT -5
The soul that sinneth shall die. We all have the same defect.
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Post by cervyy on Mar 23, 2007 0:05:23 GMT -5
Loved how you didn't deny it.
So, how am I supposed to take someone seriously who is just as afflicted as me? Simple answer, can't.
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Post by shetani on Mar 23, 2007 1:16:00 GMT -5
all of whom are not gay think that homosexuals are queers and they should stay that way. Thats cruel.... No, you would much rather see them dead. Think critically for but a fleeting moment, Pat. Is anyone going to convert to a religion because some deluded prick with homo-killin' desires says so?
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Post by deltadom on Mar 24, 2007 21:04:41 GMT -5
I would like to see my Sin dead and their Sin Dead and Save the Person
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Post by John McGlone on Mar 24, 2007 23:43:43 GMT -5
None of us deserve heaven, we deserve God's justice. You are condemned by your words; written or spoken.
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