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Post by Kerrigan on Dec 31, 2007 11:23:18 GMT -5
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Post by rebecca on Jan 3, 2008 20:04:23 GMT -5
Someone just emailed this to me. I couldn't believe it when I read it so I did a little investigating on some of these names myself and found it to be true. Check it out for yourself and see what you think.
Just a quick refresher course lest we forget what > has happened to many "friends" of the Clinton's > > 1-James McDougal - Clinton 's convicted Whitewater > partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in > solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken > Starr's investigation. > > 2 -Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was > murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in > Georgetown The murder happened just after she was > to go public with her story of sexual harassment in > the White House. > > 3- Vince Foster - Former White House counselor and > colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock 's Rose > Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled > a suicide. > > 4- Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC > Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane > crash. A pathologist close to the investigation > reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's > skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his > death Brown was being investigated, and spoke > publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with > prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane > also died. A few days later the air Traffic > controller committed suicide. > > 5- C. Victor Raiser II- Raiser, a major player in > the Clinton fund raising organization died in a > private plane crash in July 1992 > > 6-Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee > Political Director found dead in a hotel room in > Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton > as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor". > > 7-Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead > November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot > wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died > on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed > Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the > White House. Ed Willey was involved in several > Clinton fund raising events. > > 8-Jerry Parks -Head of Clinton's gubernatorial > security team in Little Rock . Gunned down in his > car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock . > Park's son said his father was building a dossier on > Clinton . He allegedly threatened to reveal this > information. After he died the files were > mysteriously removed from his house. > > 9-James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was > reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which > contained names of influential people who visited > prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas > > 10-James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an > apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have > ties to Whitewater. > > 11-Kathy Ferguson- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper > Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her > living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled > a suicide even though there were several packed > suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny > Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton > in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a > possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones. > > 12-Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiance > of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of > his fiance, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a > gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site > of his fiance. > > 13-Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton 's friend Dan > Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall > building January, 1994. His client was a convicted > drug distributor. > > 14-Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for > the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport > drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot > wounds. > > 15- Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with > Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died > of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a > suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death. > > 16-Paula Grober - Clinton 's speech interpreter for > the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992 > . She died in a one car accident. > > 17-Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. > Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development > Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, > in the middle of his investigation. > > 18- Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption > at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October > Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 > in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a > report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death. > > 19-Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for > Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his > Arlington , Virginia apartment balcony August 15, > 1993 . He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty > scandal. > > 20-Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. > Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause > of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996 . Her > bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at > the Department of Commerce. > > 21-Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce > who gave John Huang special security clearance, > died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash. > > 22-Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National > Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died > with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane > crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton > 's advisory council personally treated Clinton's > mother, stepfather and brother. > > 23-Barry Seal -Drug running pilot out of Mena > Arkansas , death was no accident. > > 24-Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check > made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left > at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car > had hit a utility pole. > > 25-Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. > His death was a purported suicide and his report was > never released. > > 26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund > raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded. > > 27-Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on > the track" case. Reports say the boys may have > stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug > operation. A controversial case, the initial report > of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad > tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been > slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked > to the case died before their testimony could come > before a Grand Jury. > > THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE > IVES/HENRY CASE: > > 28-Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed > into the back of a truck, 7/88. > > 29-Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, > 1988 > > 30-Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound > January 1989. > > 31-Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found > burned in a trash dump in April 1989. > > 33-James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the > Coroner ruled his death was due to "natural causes". > > 34-Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the > front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990. > > 35-Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry > deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989. > > THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD: > 36 -Major William S. Barkley Jr. > 37-Captain Scott J . Reynolds > 38-Sgt. Brian Hanley > 39-Sgt. Tim Sabel > 40-Major General William Robertson > 41-Col. William Densberger > 42-Col. Robert Kelly > 43-Spec. Gary Rhodes > 44-Steve Willis > 45-Robert Williams > 46-Conway LeBleu > 47-Todd McKeehan
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Post by Kerrigan on Jan 4, 2008 1:53:56 GMT -5
WOW!
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Post by tonyholland on Jan 4, 2008 13:39:52 GMT -5
WOW! Not "Wow". Just a silly list that has been put back on the conspiracy theory email lists since Hillary Clinton has been running for office. There is a pretty exhaustive breakdown of the "list" here www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.aspThe list is pretty much trying to say that the Clintons had these people rubbed out. It has about as much merit as the research done to show how George Bush orchestrated the 9/11 attacks.
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Post by rebecca on Jan 4, 2008 15:25:16 GMT -5
Not saying any of this is true but this snoops.com does nothing for me.
"Snopes"..sorry
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Post by tonyholland on Jan 4, 2008 17:54:14 GMT -5
Not saying any of this is true but this snoops.com does nothing for me. ..sorry Which one is it? If you don't know whether it is true or not, it may be a good idea to do some actual research before basically accusing a former President of murder. One thing rings true with this post the people listed (from what I can tell) are actually dead. The problem is that it is written in such a tone to indicate that the deaths were "mysterious" and attempt to show that they are acquainted with Clinton through some strange game of "seven degrees of Bill Clinton". I'll never understand why people post, email, and talk about this rubbish. Frankly, as Christians who are very proud to be Christians, we are already scrutinized. Things like this make us look like a bunch of nutjobs.
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Post by rebecca on Jan 4, 2008 20:13:07 GMT -5
EXCUSE ME??? ARE YOU SERIOUS??? I don't even know how to reply to this.
Obviously you have not kept up with this very short thread. Like I was saying I don't even know how to begin to reply to this.
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Post by tonyholland on Jan 4, 2008 20:43:19 GMT -5
Maybe I did miss something. Lets recap.
1) You posted a email conspiracy theory that suggests that the Clintons were responsible for the death of a number of people. (play the "I didn't say they were responsible" card if you wish, its pretty clear what the email is suggesting.
2) You said that you did research on this and found it to be true.
3) I posted a message saying that it was utter nonsense.
4) You posted a message saying that you didn't know whether it was true or not. (which contradicted your orignial post.
5) I called you on the contradiction, reitierated how goofy this was and said that it makes Christians look stupid when they buy into this stuff.
6) You said that you don't know how to respond.
Let me know if I missed anything.
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Post by rebecca on Jan 4, 2008 20:48:39 GMT -5
Your like jet fuel on a lazy camp fire, you just won't quit will you??? Your wrong on all points. I suggest you go back to square one and try again.
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Post by rebecca on Jan 4, 2008 21:47:17 GMT -5
Sorry for the all caps, I'm not yelling just in a state of shock at the moment.
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Post by rebecca on Jan 4, 2008 22:43:15 GMT -5
There are alot of self interests groups out there who are motivated by the god of this world. Not just groups of people but all who are not saved. They don't believe they are serving satan but they are. Jesus said the deeds of thier father they will do.
satan is orchestrating everything. You don't have an orchestra with one lone tuba player.
I never accused any one person of murder. Also I never said these people were murdered I said "see what you think".
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Post by rebecca on Jan 5, 2008 11:24:12 GMT -5
Also I said I investigated "some of these names" and "I found it to be true".
What I found to be true is that 47 close associates of Bill Clinton are dead and again I never accused any one person of murder. Like I said there are alot of special interest groups out there.
47 seems high to me, maybe not to you. Is this normal or typical I don't know.
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Post by tonyholland on Jan 5, 2008 14:34:54 GMT -5
Also I said I investigated "some of these names" and "I found it to be true". What I found to be true is that 47 close associates of Bill Clinton are dead and again I never accused any one person of murder. Like I said there are alot of special interest groups out there. 47 seems high to me, maybe not to you. Is this normal or typical I don't know. I'm not sure what is more annoying. When people post things like the "Clinton body count" or when they post it, get called out, and then try to say, "I wasn't accusing anyone of anything". As I said in my above post there is a clear insinuation (sp) of conspiracy and murder by the Clintons by posting this. One would have to be either incredibly naive or incredibly stupid not to realize that. Since, "all you are saying" is that those people died.....why would you post it? Why those people? If not to say that the Clintons are involved.....what exactly is the point of the list? You investigated some of the names and found what exactly to be true? That they are dead? Ok, fine, lots of people die everyday. Why not list those names? Since you are declaring that you aren't accusing anyone of anything, please explain the reason that you posted this list. I do get a little wound up about these things.......PACP and I used to debate these things at great length. I will give him credit for one thing though. He stood behind what he posted rather than throwing something out there and then saying, "don't know if this is true or not"
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Post by oaora on Jan 5, 2008 16:06:33 GMT -5
Thanks Tony.....I think the list is inconclusive. I do believe that a president can have someone "whacked". Considering that it is probably done so with plausible deniability. I think end game is a really cool movie. I'm also into Kent Hovind and so on. I think the reason why we disagree is because I believe that Satan works through secret societies to control men of power and I don't think that Tony does.
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Post by Devon on Jan 5, 2008 16:28:23 GMT -5
Rev K,
Very thought-provoking movie. Thanks for sharing.
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Post by tonyholland on Jan 5, 2008 16:35:27 GMT -5
That would be correct. I have a lot of doubt about the actual influence of secret societies.
Funny though....when I first read your post I thought you typed "Santa works through secret societies to control men of power" That was pretty funny ;D
No argument with this at all. THe President has the resources at his disposal for this, but I would disagree that he or his administration would be able to complete a "large scale" domestic assasination operation as the "Clinton Body Count" suggests.
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Post by rebecca on Jan 5, 2008 17:11:19 GMT -5
Back to square one again Tony. Better yet never mind. Why you feel the president has to be tied to this I will never know. Your the one who is linking the president to these murders not me. If anything I believe the president probably didn't know anything about all of this when it happened and would probably prefer not to. Shows how way of course you are with your judgement on me. You have no right judging me and saying that I am linking any single individual to these murders but you have to answer to God for your own ignorance on this matter.
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Post by tonyholland on Jan 5, 2008 18:02:57 GMT -5
Why do you think they call it the "Clinton body count" ?
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Post by davidroberttennant on Jan 6, 2008 20:55:08 GMT -5
I watched this recently too!
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Post by davidroberttennant on Jan 6, 2008 20:57:30 GMT -5
A couple other interesting resources are:
-"Freedom to Fascism" a film that can be freely viewed on google.
-wanttoknow.info
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Post by rebecca on Jan 6, 2008 21:54:44 GMT -5
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Post by rebecca on Jan 7, 2008 6:57:57 GMT -5
Edit: I deleted part six because it has some profanity.
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