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Post by prolifedorothy on Mar 4, 2006 18:29:21 GMT -5
I was witnessing to three female students from Texas Tech the other evening. They had invited me to their home because they "wanted to get right with God" after going through the WOTM law, cross, grace all three by their own admissions were headed for Hell. I really laid it on, afterwards I felt as if I had been in a wrestling match I was so tired. I aked them if they had any questions for me and one of them said, "IF I am a Christian would I have to give up going out to clubs?" I said yes. Later, others in my church were unsure that was the right thing to say. One lady said that they should just become christians and Jesus would tell them what to do. Later I was talking with a college group leader and she told me that the gals in her group ask her the same question.
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Post by Miles Lewis on Mar 5, 2006 2:02:18 GMT -5
She wouldn't have to give up going to the clubs assuming she would now be going there to preach and witness.
Miles
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Post by Jeffrey Olver on Mar 5, 2006 15:29:29 GMT -5
I've spoken to "Christians" like this many times. The fact of the matter remains; a Christian has no business being a patron of an establishment like a nightclub. I've heard excuses range from "I just want to unwind," "I'm only going to dance," "I'm just hanging out with friends," etc. The common denominator is; alhtough they claim to be Christians and know they shouldn't participate in the things going on in there - they like to be AROUND IT!
If you truly consider the matter, for a Christian going to unwind at a nightclub is like trying relax in a boxing ring. For a Christian to go to a nightclub to dance is like climbing into a pit of snakes to get your groove on. Why would a true Christian want to "hang out" with friends in a bar/club when all around them, women are hanging out of all the wrong places, and the men are hanging on to all the women.
Don't compromise, Dorothy. If a someone was once an alcoholic, they STOP going to bars. If someone was addicted to sex, they STOP going to strip joints. A Christian should not frequent the places they used to indulge in all their sins.
It is just plain STUPID to do so!
Of course, the exception would be if a Christian is going to the club to evangelize - but to that person I would say they should never go inside! I preach and witness OUTSIDE of bars and clubs often. But I would never go IN one, unless I was invited to take the microphone!
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Post by michael on Mar 6, 2006 2:29:24 GMT -5
Amen. We have been called OUT of darkness and INTO his marvelous light.
Michael McGrath
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Post by Josh Parsley on Mar 6, 2006 9:37:52 GMT -5
I was just thinking about this the other day. If I went into a bar I would want to be carrying a sign and preaching as I went in. That way no one would think I was there to drink.
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Post by Jeffrey Olver on Mar 6, 2006 16:57:49 GMT -5
Let me add another thing; remember the story of the prodigal son. When he went back to his father, not only did he acknowledge his guilty state, but also FORSOOK the pig sty!
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Post by drenz777 on Mar 7, 2006 22:31:18 GMT -5
Hi Dorothy,
You did the right thing by what you said. When we repent we need to turn from sin and amputate and cut off all sin and activities in our life that we participated in before. Stand firm with the truth and His love.
In Christ, Doug Renz
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Post by tomah on Mar 20, 2006 7:27:01 GMT -5
Indeed you did the right thing sister. Doesn't the scripture say "be not among winebibbers" or something? In other words, don't be found with those that drink alcohol.
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Post by lizlovesjesus on Mar 20, 2006 16:56:00 GMT -5
Yeah thats right.A nightclub is no place for a christian unless they are witnessing.I am asked this question numerous times and I always point to 1 peter 4:3.I have gone inside a club to witness to this one man.The club had just closed and he was the last one in.My brother Roy had gone in to give him a gospel tract and then he asked me to go in and talk to the guy he had given a gospel tract.I talked to him about the sin if drunkeness and read Galatians 5 to him.I prayed for him and left.Sometimes I go inside clubs and leave a gospel tract in the restroom and leave.Jesus did dine with sinners and Pharisees questioned it lol!
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Post by Steve Noel on Mar 20, 2006 18:40:27 GMT -5
I would also point out that the fact that they were asking the question reveals that the Holy Spirit is convicting them about that very issue. They already knew the answer and were looking for someone to ease their conscience. Unfortunately in the modern pulpit they'll find plenty ear ticklers.
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Post by prolifedorothy on Mar 26, 2006 14:52:45 GMT -5
Today at church I had some feedback regarding this witnessing situation. please pray for me that I will have the right spirit. As I said previously I visited these three gals with two people from my church. One of their friends had died in a car accident and this had them thinking of eternal things. I followed Ray's suggestions in the SOBE lesson on showing compassion, empathy, but still taking them through the law. The three gals listened and responded that they would end up in Hell if God judged them by this standard. When I asked them if they had any questions they posed one asked, "IF I become a Christian (note she said become) would I have to give up drinking and going to clubs. So I did not think by this question she was ready to make a committment so I left them with tracts and my name and phone number. Today a lady came up to me at church and asked me if I am still working with the college group. I said no, I don't work with the college group. She then asked if I was the one who visited three college gals. I don't know who this woman is, had to ask the lady next to me, but I was curious as to why she asked. So I asked her why she asked adding that I would be interested in any feedback. She said she didn't know of any. When I pressed the lady standing next to me who is one of my good friends she said that she heard that the college gals had said they were offended. Now I don't worry if the word offends them but I don't want to be purposly offensive myself. I have shown the WOTM video's to my pastor and he said he liked them but thats as far as it goes. a couple of weeks ago I showed him the Department of Annoyance card and was told I was the strangest person he had ever known. I don't want to come over as a know it all or my way's better than yours. I think the bottom line is they don't want to offend people. I was told that Evangelism is connecting with people, making friendships, doing random acts of kindness. Maybe I am strange, but I have no interest in attending a ladies event, fun night, dinner, etc.
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Post by Miles Lewis on Mar 26, 2006 18:09:28 GMT -5
Amen! You keep preaching! Your pastor and everyone else may think you are crazy, but to me you most definitely sanctified nuts!
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Post by Josh Parsley on Mar 27, 2006 10:13:31 GMT -5
Pro 29:27 An unjust man [is] an abomination to the just: and [he that is] upright in the way [is] abomination to the wicked.
I'm wondering how this verse lines up with "friendship evangelism?"
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