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Post by Miles Lewis on Apr 29, 2006 13:27:54 GMT -5
Wow. That is a new one. So if you apply that to other sins like murder, lying, stealing, rape... Only those who are natural born killers, only those who are really liars, only those who are really thieves, only those who are really rapists can commit such things? Keep reading in Romans1 and it says that those who do these things are worthy of death.
Repent.
And yet no one gave any biblical support that homosexuals are born that way. Homophobia? I suppose I would ask you to define your terms and cite at least a few of the many supposed references to oppose that rather that homosexuality.
And of those less than ten references to homosexual intercourse, does the Bible comdemn or condone those acts in those references?
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Post by HDmatt on Apr 29, 2006 13:34:50 GMT -5
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Post by Miles Lewis on Apr 29, 2006 13:52:10 GMT -5
What study? Do you have a source? I'm sorry I'm just going to need proof here because I'm pretty sure you're wrong. The word of God is the source and the ultimate authority upon which which morality is based on. After studying the word of God it has been disproven that homosexuals are born that way. Miles
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Post by valentine on Apr 29, 2006 13:59:15 GMT -5
What study? Do you have a source? I'm sorry I'm just going to need proof here because I'm pretty sure you're wrong. The word of God is the source and the ultimate authority upon which which morality is based on. After studying the word of God it has been disproven that homosexuals are born that way. Miles Science called. They want their terminology back.
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Post by wanderingtrekker on Apr 29, 2006 14:26:39 GMT -5
What study? Do you have a source? I'm sorry I'm just going to need proof here because I'm pretty sure you're wrong. The word of God is the source and the ultimate authority upon which which morality is based on. After studying the word of God it has been disproven that homosexuals are born that way. Miles Did your mother drop you on your head as a child?
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Post by Miles Lewis on Apr 29, 2006 14:27:37 GMT -5
God called. He's telling you to repent.
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Post by wanderingtrekker on Apr 29, 2006 14:37:58 GMT -5
God called. He's telling you to repent. Hostess called. They want their cream puffs back.
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Post by valentine on Apr 29, 2006 14:52:35 GMT -5
God called. He's telling you to repent. Tell him I said: "Not on your life, babe." Seriously, Miles, we've already proven this point about sixteen and a half times. Go read any of the other homosexuality threads if you have questions. Trekker, have I toooold you lately that I love you? ;D
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Post by biblethumper on Apr 29, 2006 15:15:32 GMT -5
Miles said: The word of God is the source and the ultimate authority upon which which morality is based on. After studying the word of God it has been disproven that homosexuals are born that way.
I agree, brother, 100%!
I also believe an honest atheist *is there such a thing?* would come to the same conclusion as Scripture, because the Laws of God are written on the hearts of ALL, regardless of religious belief.
Homosexuality is, first and foremost, evil because God says so.
Period.
It's also known to be evil by those who have not been turned over to reprobate minds.
Those who condone such filth are either turned over by God or are in danger of such.
Homosexuality is wrong.
Plain evil.
Repent or one day you'll want to but will find it impossible.
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Post by Miles Lewis on Apr 29, 2006 15:19:24 GMT -5
God called. He's telling you to repent. Hostess called. They want their cream puffs back. Ok, you got me to chuckle.
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Post by Rodgers on Apr 29, 2006 16:10:13 GMT -5
I think the State should mandate that all homosexuals take a 9th grade biology class!
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Post by valentine on Apr 29, 2006 16:16:03 GMT -5
I think everyone on this message board should be required to take intro psychology.
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Post by Morluna on Apr 29, 2006 16:23:48 GMT -5
This is the epitome of closed-mindedness. Have you ever existed inside the mind of another human being? Can you view the world from the same perspective as a Buddhist living in Tibet? Or an Aborigine in Australia? Or the non-Christian of whatever belief down the street for that matter. You can't. So how can you claim any universality concerning the human heart. You think that every single person on the face of the Earth must think in just the same way you do, and view the world in just the way you do. You are wrong. Simple as that.
Ohhhh boy. So anyone who doesn't condemn homosexual behavior is in danger of becoming homosexual themselves? Wow. I'm not even going to comment on the psychological implications here, that's Val's job. I will just say this: The leading cause of homophobia is an intense fear of being associated with homosexuality. The homophobe is often an inidividual who has homosexual tendencies themself, but for whatever reason (societal expectations etc) they are terrified of being found out, so they put themselves as far away from homosexuality as possible. This often culminates in an intense hatred of homosexuality that they express through vocalization against the behavior. I don't have specific examples, but I know I've seen individual scientific studies that have shown data to support this. Maybe Val has some links? I would suspect that most of you guys have homosexual tendencies that you are suppressing. Would any of you like to affirm or refute this suspicion? Just curious, have any of you ever felt tendencies, or temptations.. what have you, of that nature?
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Post by biblethumper on Apr 29, 2006 21:27:26 GMT -5
Morluna, go re-read my words and quite possibly you'll have the honesty and integrity enough to say, "Opps! He didn't actually say that, did he?"
Those who don;t condemn homosexuality are in danger of becoming one?
haha.... Who said that?
My post was referring to Romans chapter 1.
You should really become aquainted with the Scriptures, as your lack of basic understanding is apparent in these matters.
Jesus Christ has commanded you to repent and live in holiness.
Stop fighting His Word and simply repent and come to Christ!
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Post by Morluna on Apr 29, 2006 22:47:50 GMT -5
Um... I QUOTED you. It doesn't get much more accurate than that. How can you claim you didn't say it, when I posted a direct quote?
Actually, I've read pretty much all of the Bible, some of it multiple times. Just how am I showing ignorance? It is you, sir, who appear ignorant by repeatedly commanding the same thing of me over and over: "REPENT REPENT!" Seriously. It isn't working. Maybe you should consider a new tactic for convincing me.
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Post by wanderingtrekker on Apr 30, 2006 0:30:53 GMT -5
I think the State should mandate that all homosexuals take a 9th grade biology class! Actually, I took a tenth grade biology class in ninth grade (what can I say, I was gifted). Does this mandate only include out homosexuals or do closeted ones have to do it too? If so, how does the state know? Thinking of that, was it a freudian slip that you capitalized "state?" Do you equate its power with God's? I think that the states (only states are involved in curriculum decisions, so I have to use the plural) should mandate a civics course for fundamentalists, and everyone else. And since I am not a taxpayer (I own no property and live in Georgia), it won't be my money being used to fund these courses. Got your wallet on you?
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Post by wanderingtrekker on Apr 30, 2006 0:39:55 GMT -5
Morluna, Your reference to the correlation between homophobia and homosexual tendencies is a study done by UGA. The general hypothesis is that because of repressed feelings, closeted homosexuals demonstrate a higher level of homophobia as a defense mechanism. This could be for several reasons. One, they could be trying to be so anti-gay that people would never even begin to think that they might be homosexual. Second, they might actually be trying to deny their own inner urges, by reacting (often violently) against those who are tempting them to be open and honest with themself by having happy lives as gay people. I'm sure that there are other hypotheses as well. The correlation was proven, however, by a study conducted by the University of Georgia. The entire study results can be found at www.oogachaga.com/downloads/homophobia_and_homosexual_arousal.pdf. The study, entitled "Is Homophobia Associated With Homosexual Arousal?" was conducted by Henry Adams, Lester Wright, Jr., and Bethany Lohr; researchers at the Unviersity of Georgia. It was conducted in 1996. The abstract of the study has been included in this post.
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Post by Morluna on Apr 30, 2006 13:02:04 GMT -5
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Post by hopefulheart on Apr 30, 2006 19:22:38 GMT -5
What study? Do you have a source? I'm sorry I'm just going to need proof here because I'm pretty sure you're wrong. The word of God is the source and the ultimate authority upon which which morality is based on. After studying the word of God it has been disproven that homosexuals are born that way. Miles You know... I respect the argument that homosexuals should resist the temptation of their lusts rather than the one that states they shouldn't have chosen to be gay to begin with... *thinks on that* That's a pretty damn amazing trick, you know? Being able to choose what physically turns you on? Ok, new argument. To the OAO people... it's no longer Why do you think someone would choose that... but HOW? *tilts his head to the side in query* Think about it. Can you make yourself More straight? I mean, can you make yourself more physically turned on by the opposite gender? If so... then a different question: How the heck does Viagra stay in business???
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Post by wanderingtrekker on Apr 30, 2006 20:29:22 GMT -5
Simple answer, Hopeful, they aren't 'turned on,' that's lust. They only have sex in order to create little fundies, not for emotional completeness/bonding with their partner. I'm honestly surprised that they haven't transitioned completely to in vitro fertilization to remove all pleasure from life.
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Post by Morluna on Apr 30, 2006 22:16:49 GMT -5
Simple answer, Hopeful, they aren't 'turned on,' that's lust. They only have sex in order to create little fundies, not for emotional completeness/bonding with their partner. I'm honestly surprised that they haven't transitioned completely to in vitro fertilization to remove all pleasure from life. Ever read, The Giver or 1984 for that matter? Heheh, "lie back and think of England..."
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Post by hopefulheart on May 1, 2006 1:06:22 GMT -5
Simple answer, Hopeful, they aren't 'turned on,' that's lust. They only have sex in order to create little fundies, not for emotional completeness/bonding with their partner. I'm honestly surprised that they haven't transitioned completely to in vitro fertilization to remove all pleasure from life. Ahh, so That's how Viagra stays in business ^_- j/k, all
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Post by Miles Lewis on May 1, 2006 1:11:57 GMT -5
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Post by Morluna on May 1, 2006 7:26:47 GMT -5
Aaaand just what does that prove Miles? Can I just say that that guy is tooooootally gay? He just looks it, lol.
Sigh... poor Christian closet gays.. living their lives in denial... so sad.... so unnecessary...
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Post by tomah on May 3, 2006 13:41:37 GMT -5
Just to let you all know, April 24th is an important date, but it's not for 'suffering' homosexuals. It's the date of the Armenian Genocide when Armenians all over the world remember the 1.5 million Armenians, men, women and children who were innocently slaughtered by brutal Turkish murderers beginning on 24th April 1915.
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Post by cervyy on May 5, 2006 18:04:13 GMT -5
I've been to their Web site before ... what was it suppose to prove again? Oh ya, he's soooo still gay. Why else would he have to make a Web site proving he's no longer gay? If he really is straight, then God will know and that is all that he needs.
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