Post by Morluna on Apr 23, 2006 23:31:34 GMT -5
admin said:
jobafunky,Morality is based on the never changing character of God. The ancient question, is it wrong because God says it or does God say it because it's wrong? If you say something is wrong because God says it's wrong then that is being arbitrary. If God later changed his mind and said "thou shall murder" then that becomes morality. If you say God says it is wrong because it is wrong then morality exists outside of God.
However, morality is based on the never changing character of God. God would never change his mind regarding morality because God is the same yesturday, today, and forever.
So the answer is that God would never command someone to do that. Those who believe God has told them to do such things are decieved by the devil.
But again, you are taking something for granted here. You are automaticly assuming that blowing up innocent children is wrong. And indeed it is wrong. However the believer has reason to believe it's wrong - The Bible declares it. And also the believer has a reason to acknowledge that he inherently knows these things are wrong - he was created in God's image and was given a conscience.
However an unbeliever has no logical reason to say blowing up anybody, whether child or not, is wrong. You are showing that you were created in God's image and also that God has given you an internal conscience by your post while you deny this foundation which your arguement even comes from. How can you account for this internal knowledge that murdering innocent children is wrong?
On what grounds do you say this is wrong? What outside ethical system are you trying to use against the bible?
admin said:
The answer to your question, "if God said blow up innocent children would you do it" my answer is no. Because God wouldn't command that because morality is based on His never changing character. God already said, "thou shall not kill" and He does not contradict Himself. Only someone decieved by the devil would believe God told them to do such things. But again, you are taking something for granted here. You are automaticly assuming that blowing up innocent children is wrong. And indeed it is wrong. However the believer has reason to believe it's wrong - The Bible declares it. And also the believer has a reason to acknowledge that he inherently knows these things are wrong - he was created in God's image and was given a conscience.
However an unbeliever has no logical reason to say blowing up anybody, whether child or not, is wrong. You are showing that you were created in God's image and also that God has given you an internal conscience by your post while you deny this foundation which your arguement even comes from. How can you account for this internal knowledge that murdering innocent children is wrong?
On what grounds do you say this is wrong? What outside ethical system are you trying to use against the bible. You said God is worse then Hitler. But by what moral principles do you even use to judge Hitler let alone God?
Is there an echo in the room? You've just repeated yourself, dear. Could you try not to be so obvious in your evasion of his questions?