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Post by evanschaible on Jun 1, 2006 9:07:52 GMT -5
This (despite the claims of some backslidden evolutionists) is the backbone of the theory. SO, here is my challenge to all that BELIEVE the big bang happened...
1) What exploded and where did it come from? 2) What exlosion ever created order? 3) And finally, Where you there?
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Post by atheistbibleburner on Jun 1, 2006 14:34:55 GMT -5
The big bang is a theory that works with the evidence of the universe we have right now. It is in no way complete. I highly doubt it is even correct.
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Post by atheistbibleburner on Jun 1, 2006 14:35:10 GMT -5
And the big bang theory has nothing to do with evolution.
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Post by evanschaible on Jun 1, 2006 19:49:26 GMT -5
But in another thread you said you believed it? If you are trying to convince us of our faults, you should probably stay consistent my freind.
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Post by atheistbibleburner on Jun 1, 2006 19:54:13 GMT -5
I believe it more than I believe in creationism. If I had to choose between the two, I'd pick that.
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Post by HSTN2983 on Jun 1, 2006 21:52:52 GMT -5
you pick, you choose...innie-minnie.................... haha. so tired, burner, some good posts lately...i will comment [decently] on them soon enough. i do not have enough energy right now to think. oi.
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Post by atheistbibleburner on Jun 1, 2006 22:30:52 GMT -5
Aight =D.
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Post by jonathanhulewicz on Jun 1, 2006 23:59:33 GMT -5
I believe it more than I believe in creationism. If I had to choose between the two, I'd pick that. Come on, you have a brain don't you? What makes more sense: 'In the beginning God' OR 'In the beginning something'
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Post by HSTN2983 on Jun 2, 2006 7:08:17 GMT -5
none of them, jon.
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Post by atheistbibleburner on Jun 2, 2006 10:52:08 GMT -5
c) None of the above
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Post by evanschaible on Jun 2, 2006 12:02:10 GMT -5
But since you do indeed believe the big bang theory more than creationism, answer my questions in the initial post...If you can.
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Post by atheistbibleburner on Jun 2, 2006 13:00:31 GMT -5
All matter, and we don't know.
This one.
I time travel from time to time =D.
This theory takes quite a bit of faith to believe , because it is in no way complete. I remain agnostic about creation.
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Post by evanschaible on Jun 2, 2006 14:43:38 GMT -5
Agnostic, that is interesting. So if there was an all powerful being that created all the earth, who was it?
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Post by atheistbibleburner on Jun 2, 2006 17:56:58 GMT -5
The flying spaghetti monster. And we have the same amount of proof of the flying spaghetti monster as we have of your yahweh.
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Post by evanschaible on Jun 2, 2006 18:23:18 GMT -5
Listen my friend, the flying spaghetti monster cannot forgive you your crimes against a holy God. I cannot convince you He exists, you have to do it yourself. Ask yourself, have ou ever told a lie? Have you ever stolen anyting? Have you ever looked with lust(adultery of the heart)? Have you ever used Gods name in vain? If so then you are a lying theif, and blasphemous adulterer at heart and you have to face God on judgement day. "All liars will have their part in the lake of fire" "no theif, adulterer, fornicator, drunkard, will inherit the kingdom of God." Jesus said unless you repent you will perish, Stop your filthy sin and trust in the saviour. He died to take the punishment you deserve. He died in our place and then rose three days later and sits at the right hand of God the Father almighty. One day we all have to stand before Him and be judged. If you dn repent, and put your trust in Jesus then you will be cast into hell where the fire is not quenched.
Not only that but you withhold the obedience and worship that God deserves. Jesus Christ deserves the reward of His suffering. You have to face the fact that you deserve hell, and Jesus deserve your service and worship. Repent and trust, Him. Please, think about this, there is nothing more important.
You hold your eternal destination in your hands, if you turn to God in repentance and contrition and place your faith and trust Jesus Christ and obey Him in all things then you can go free from sin, hell, death and judgement. Think about it, please.
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Post by atheistbibleburner on Jun 2, 2006 22:36:49 GMT -5
Not a problem, because your god doesn't exist. Only the flying spaghetti monster is divine, and I have his holy book to prove it =D.
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Post by HSTN2983 on Jun 3, 2006 11:54:46 GMT -5
evan, do chistians use the same conversion tactics, or is it that everyone on this site--including yourself--say the exact same thing over and over and over again?
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Post by evanschaible on Jun 4, 2006 8:32:48 GMT -5
They arent tactics, it is the truth.
Not all Christians say the same thing, it just so happens you are on a message board where all of the Christians preach the truth.
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Post by HSTN2983 on Jun 4, 2006 9:46:46 GMT -5
oh, so you know the intent of every man's heart (on this site0?
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Post by atheistbibleburner on Jun 4, 2006 16:22:26 GMT -5
No, I'm sorry, those are tactics.
AHAHAHA. Quote Mark Twain:
Man is a Religious Animal. He is the only Religious Animal. He is the only animal that has the True Religion -- several of them. He is the only animal that loves his neighbor as himself and cuts his throat if his theology isn't straight
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Post by HSTN2983 on Jun 5, 2006 6:03:54 GMT -5
i love mark twain.
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Post by Morluna on Jun 5, 2006 13:31:46 GMT -5
I believe it more than I believe in creationism. If I had to choose between the two, I'd pick that. Come on, you have a brain don't you? What makes more sense: 'In the beginning God' OR 'In the beginning something' Yet another example of the desperate need I have witnessed in so many ardent Christians to find something... ANYTHING.. that they can believe in. It's better to have definite concrete beliefs that might be wrong, but refuse to entertain the idea that they might be wrong, than to simply accept that you don't know everything about the inner workings of the universe or where it came from. Fundamentalists of all religious backgrounds are afraid. They latch on to a doctrine and a dogma, cover their eyes and plug their ears against any other way of thinking, and spend the rest of their lives trying to convince themselves and everyone else that they are right, period. I find it much more realistic, and more honest, to simply accept that I am human and I don't know everything. In fact, I know very little about how the universe works and it's origins. Practically nothing. And I accept that what I "know" may very well be wrong and based on faulty scientific principles.
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Post by evanschaible on Jun 5, 2006 14:56:04 GMT -5
You are wrong, dead wrong. I fear no man, no beast, and no creature. I fear God, and that my dear friend is the beginning of knowledge.
You are quite right though about our limited knowledge. We will never have the knowledge that will unlock the inner workings of this universe in the sense that the world and you are thinking and pursuing. However, when it all comes down to it, does that really matter?
You dont have to know how the universe works when you know the creator of it. If I knew Bill Gates then I could really care less about how he spends his money because I know the man and it wouldnt matter. The same way, I know God, therefore I could care less how he runs his creation, because that is His bussiness, not mine.
I do know one thing though, you are not only dead wrong in your arguments, you are also dead in your sin. You need, desperately, to turn to Jesus Christ, turn away from all your sin and obey Him.
I fear for your soul, you could very well end up in hell.
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Post by HSTN2983 on Jun 5, 2006 15:21:03 GMT -5
evan, you--and other fundies--seem to confuse the words fear and respect. fear is not healthy, ever....
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Post by evanschaible on Jun 5, 2006 15:54:28 GMT -5
Because you understanding is darkened you know nothing of God. God is holy. God is righteous. God is perfect. God is omnipresent, omnipotent, omniscient and you have to stand before HIM one day for judgement. One day even your knee will bow to the Almighty, whether you like it or not.
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Post by atheistbibleburner on Jun 5, 2006 16:54:00 GMT -5
Ok, show of hands, who wants evan to stop with the damn repent or die nuts?
~raises two hands~
I'm going to have to address this in a second.
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Post by HSTN2983 on Jun 6, 2006 15:45:03 GMT -5
evan, please stop repeating the sermons taught by your preacher the sunday before...its getting old.
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Post by evanschaible on Jun 6, 2006 19:30:16 GMT -5
It is interesting that athiests and agnostics and so forth get so doragatory and defensive when confronted with a claim like "even your knee will one day bow to Jesus Christ". Why dont you just prove it wrong? Perhaps because you cant. On Christ the solid rock I stand, the ground on which you stand is nothing more than sinking sand.
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Post by atheistbibleburner on Jun 6, 2006 20:45:49 GMT -5
How am I getting defensive? I just want you to stop, because every single time you say that, we get "further from christ". It makes us sick. It was cool the first couple times, but like an overused joke, it starts to suck.
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Post by biblethumper on Jun 6, 2006 21:41:50 GMT -5
Possibly your words make us sick....
Regardless, we aren't telling YOU to stop....
Either way, God is God and we'll declare His Name and Fame forever.
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