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Post by Jules on Jun 26, 2006 13:09:32 GMT -5
jules, your argument against cervvy raises an interesting fact, its the some style debate that christians use against non-believers. give me an example of this type of use by Christians on this board...
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Post by Jules on Jun 26, 2006 13:14:19 GMT -5
I use the Bible to try and siprove you because it is YOUR weapon against US. Only weapon in fact. I'm saorry I keep confusing which verses to take literally and which one to take figuratively (sp). Where again in the Bible is the list that tells me which verses to read which way? I can never keep them all straight!! It isn't about taking VERSE of the BIBLE itself literally of figuratively - it is about understanding the proper use of language - whether it is Greek, English, or whatever. Similes are a figure of speech, identifiable by the terms "like, as, etc." Don't make it more complicated than it is simply to discredit the entire message. You circumvent every single message you disagree with, don't you see that? Everyone else can. You don't like the fac tthat we have shown from scripture that the verse in question obviously doesn' t mean what you claimed, and therefore, you are still able to be saved, thereby making you accountable. Trying to get yourself off the hook spiritually for your own sin and decisions won't work. Denial may be a convenient way for you to think you are hiding from God, but you aren't fooling anyone. Your argument that it is too late for you to be saved has been disproven. Stop the thread now. If you have another topic concerning the Bible or the authroity of it, then begin in another thread. Your claim died in this thread about a page ago.
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Post by abb on Jun 27, 2006 18:26:49 GMT -5
Which one? My holy spirit claim? Or cervy's children claim? Please, tell us which one.
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Post by cervyy on Jun 30, 2006 17:52:31 GMT -5
Okay, then lemme put aside all my reasons ans take your "Holy" message LIKE a child! ....
WHAT!?!? I'm living wrong? NUH-UH!! I Don't wanna live your way!! You way is for doo-doo heads!! Yer a meanie!!
Sorry, but in my experience dealing with children, they don't always go with reasoning, but with what they WANT. I look at your message from the perspective as a child, and I'd reject even faster.
I also don't see that sentence to mean a simile. Most similes using "as" (most of them I encounter anywho) go something like "as (blank) as a." For example, "you're as red as a tomato."
Now, take this sentence "as a junior in college you can study abroad." That 'as' doesn't mean, when you're LIKE a junior, but that when you ARE a junior ...
So you say that is what the original Hebrew (it was Hebrew right?) mean that, well it translated away from that meaning (as I exampled above). Which then also proves my translations only hurt the Bible theory.
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Post by HSTN2983 on Jul 3, 2006 2:49:11 GMT -5
Jules, you said, "cervyy...so, you use the Bible when it is convenient for your purposes or your views, but conveniently disregard it when it conflicts with your own world view? Not surprising."
every christian on this board is guilty of using their own interpretations of the bible to serve a selfish purpose or view. this is why ANYONE believes the things they do, so as to prove themselves right--and better than others.
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Post by oap001 on Jul 12, 2006 19:01:00 GMT -5
Its not to late for you to be saved. It means you must have childlike faith. Or depend on God like a litle child.
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Post by abb on Jul 12, 2006 19:03:14 GMT -5
Biblically, once you deny the holy spirit, you're fucked.
I DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!! I DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!! I DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!! I DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!! I DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!! I DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!! I DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!! I DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!! I DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!! I DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!! I DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!! I DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!! I DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!!
Save me now, bitches!!!! I DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!!
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Post by oap001 on Jul 12, 2006 19:10:25 GMT -5
Biblically, once you deny the holy spirit, you're f**ked. I DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!! I DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!! I DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!! I DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!! I DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!! I DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!! I DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!! I DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!! I DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!! I DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!! I DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!! I DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!! I DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!! Save me now, pregnant doges!!!! I DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!! I would say that there is a sin against the Holy Sprit..where He will refuse to talk to you. But then again if someone prayed for you I believe that He may give you another chance to have your heart pricked. Prayer is a weapon you know.....
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Post by abb on Jul 12, 2006 19:18:05 GMT -5
Nope, biblically, I am condemned. And the scripture never lies...
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Post by oap001 on Jul 12, 2006 19:42:26 GMT -5
Nope, biblically, I am condemned. And the scripture never lies... If you ever find yourself under the preaching of the Wod of God and you feel your heart to be "pricked". The it is not to late.
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Post by abb on Jul 12, 2006 20:01:47 GMT -5
Once again, the communication process is broken down! THE BIBLE SAYS WHOSOEVER DENIES THE HOLY SPIRIT SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN!
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Post by oap001 on Jul 12, 2006 20:11:47 GMT -5
Once again, the communication process is broken down! THE BIBLE SAYS WHOSOEVER DENIES THE HOLY SPIRIT SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN! Give me the verse. Also I've read about people involved in satanism, who thought they had denied the Holy Sprit, but later got saved. See, its a matter of whats in the heart....God knows if you really mean it. Also, I still maintain that with prayer, the Holy Sprit can give a person a second chance. God is the God of second chances. Doesn't the Bible say with Him all things are possible? So, ya maybe the Holy Sprit isan't talking to you and unless someone prays for you possibly He never would. I prayed for you. Its time for you to stop fighting God and come home.
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Post by abb on Jul 12, 2006 20:35:32 GMT -5
Umm, would you please go back through this thread and read it? Nevermind, I'll just give it to you...
Matthew...12:31-32
Mark...3:29
Luke...12:10
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Post by abb on Jul 12, 2006 20:37:08 GMT -5
If that's true, then your piece of nuts book means nothing. You, me, everyone, can do what they want, when they want. Rape women, kill children etc. Why? Because with god, it is still possible for you to go to heaven.
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Post by abb on Jul 12, 2006 20:38:38 GMT -5
Oyah, by the way.... the holy ghost is my pregnant dog. If I saw the holy ghost I would rape it. I would rape it in every single hole it has. I would then feed it to 250 angry dog's, and proceed to have a serial rapist rape the dogs.
Is that enough blaspheming for yah =D?
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Post by sequindaisies on Jul 12, 2006 20:49:22 GMT -5
Nope, biblically, I am condemned. And the scripture never lies... Matthew 12:22-37 22 Then was brought unto him one possessed with a devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw.
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Post by abb on Jul 12, 2006 20:55:09 GMT -5
Unless you are trying to pass that off as an insult... what does that have to do with anything?
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Post by sequindaisies on Jul 12, 2006 21:17:17 GMT -5
Unless you are trying to pass that off as an insult... what does that have to do with anything? Romans 5:6-21 6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. Psalms 92:6 A brutish man knoweth not; neither doth a fool understand this. Mark 7:37 And were beyond measure astonished, saying, He hath done all things well: he maketh both the deaf to hear, and the dumb to speak.
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Post by abb on Jul 12, 2006 21:21:10 GMT -5
Hmm, so you are trying to say that as a heathen, I'm a dumbass, and can not understand anything.
Do you realize that the word dumb is used as "unable to speak"?
Refer to the Are you afraid thread posted in this section.
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Post by sequindaisies on Jul 12, 2006 21:27:09 GMT -5
Hmm, so you are trying to say that as a heathen, I'm a dumbass, and can not understand anything. If you can't understand as a child, then yes Do you realize that the word dumb is used as "unable to speak"? Do realize the word Brutish means "stupid"
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Post by abb on Jul 12, 2006 21:36:23 GMT -5
Wow, grant, you said that christians are NOT condescending?
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Post by sequindaisies on Jul 12, 2006 21:47:48 GMT -5
Wow, grant, you said that christians are NOT condescending? Patronizing? no truth, but thanks for the complement, of superiority.
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Post by abb on Jul 12, 2006 21:52:23 GMT -5
So, who are you? And why make a sock-puppet? Too scared to show it with a name you actually associate with yourself?
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Post by sequindaisies on Jul 12, 2006 22:49:40 GMT -5
So, who are you? my mother was a one legged prostitute name Chloe, and my father has propensity towards buggery, and he sat around all day and pondered who invented the question mark. And why make a sock-puppet? I thought visual aids would help the learning impaired. Too scared to show it with a name you actually associate with yourself? What's in a name?
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Post by HSTN2983 on Jul 13, 2006 12:30:37 GMT -5
letters are in a name.
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Post by abb on Jul 13, 2006 13:00:20 GMT -5
Identities, associations, aliases, etc.
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Post by sequindaisies on Jul 13, 2006 15:09:31 GMT -5
Identities, associations, aliases, etc. Gee, Capital letters and lowercase, and sometimes the "duh" sound............ Getting out sock puppet for the conceptually impaired....
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Post by HSTN2983 on Jul 26, 2006 18:23:32 GMT -5
daisy, there is no need for that. i earnestly question your fruits through the few posts ive read of you, and i do not know you at all. this does not say much about your character or your faith.
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Post by rebecca02 on Jul 26, 2006 18:24:45 GMT -5
I hate the title of this thread!
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Post by HSTN2983 on Jul 26, 2006 18:26:58 GMT -5
honestly, i think it is a satirical post to provide evidence of what it is like for christians to try and use subjective, backwards-behind logic against non-believers.
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