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Post by HSTN2983 on Jul 29, 2006 23:53:17 GMT -5
this is not a personal attack. however, there are a few issues i would like to raise with this new member and her code of conduct. i think of this more as an intervention. there is a possibility, before i begin, that this member is concealing a previous pseudonym, or that it may be a secondary profile for another person. i am unaware to this and so i will treat her profile as i see it. sequindaisies joined the board this month, and has posted sixty-five times. she is a junior-level member in regards to the number of posts, but i want to point out something interesting to my fellow christians and heathens: she has yet to start a thread herself. i have reviewed all sixty-five of her replies, and have come up with some interesting numbers: sixty-three of sixty-five post results were actually found. now, i did the same research on my own profile and figured out that i was missing three or four out of almost nine hundred posts. i am not sure where the missing posts went, although two likely scenarios are possible: the lost comments were deleted by an administrator and/or the were posted in closed threads. this is not relevant, but i wanted you guys to know this fact should she come up with two lost threads that she created herself, before or on this day. secondly, she has posted in a total of twelve threads. here is the list: 1. why? 2. are you afraid? 3. what do you fear? 4. proof jesus rose from the dead! 5. god's plan is my plan...how convenient! 6. philadelphia homosexual parade this sunday 7. lessons from camp: peace 8. let us pray 9. faith 10. meeting with a catholic priest 11. it's too late for us to be saved... 12. warning to members seven of these were started by fellow heathens, myself included. she makes no contribution in the remaining five except to post verses, insults and anything negative. she is self-righteous to the extent of elitism. you can find evidence of this in all the christian topics that she contributed to in numbers four, six, eight, ten and a pointless post in twelve. let me remind you that she did all this in christian topics, but if we were to turn our eyes in the direction of world-view debating board you will see what sort of fruits this woman possesses. here are some of the lying quotes and verbal abuse from sequindaisies herself (to find these go to her profile and type in '65' in the recent posts, and it will pull up every thread she has commented in, and what it says to boot.): You don't believe on Christ, you believe in Allah, not the one true God, that is why you are stuck here.
When you go through puberty, let the board know, it will be a welcome change, but in your case it might not change anything about you, you just can't fix "stupid".
That wouldn't be an analogy either. That would be a comparison. An analogy is when you compare two unlike items or concepts to better illustrate some underlying truth. An analogy A comparison of two unlike items. Your thoughts on women in general, because of your sad upbringing, , and insecurity of not measuring up, and trying to compare that to me. And coming up with your strange and deluded analogy. Two unlike items, and your dumb assestment, from your subjective limited mind. Still don't get it do you. 2 unlike items, compared, and given a stupid analogy. As far as the rest of your low self esteem post, Why in the world would you think anyone cares??? ROFLMAO!!!!!!! So very sad....
LOL poor demented soul. Again, just because you're very slow and don't seem to have the capacity to understand... analogy means 2: drawing a comparison in order to show a similarity in some respect, and in your case with your limited subjective mind an incorrect analogy of your mother to me. You've already shown us you have the intelligence of an ardvark. When will you evolve into a human?
Are you sober? That's got to be the dumbest analogy I have ever read. Bow wow wow, yippi yo, yippi ya, bow wow yippi yo, yippi ya, is this what you cowboys did at the parade in your pink hats and thongs?
Gee, Capital letters and lowercase, and sometimes the "duh" sound............ Getting out sock puppet for the conceptually impaired....
this is a few examples that need no context, but if you read some more...its quite frightening.she claims to be a christian. i do not understand why she has such a haughty attitude and love for ignorance, but she has yet to be corrected by the administrators. she does not believe that any of the heathens here deserves any sort of respect, and i will not tolerate such immature behavior. she sincerely believes she is better than non-believers, and does not even address us by name or pseudonym. she does not even consider us human. we need to keep people accountable for their actions. i am not asking for her to agree with what we believe, but to respect us and to apologize for her indecency. we all get upset, and we all say things that are better left unsaid. i have said terrible things, and others have done the same to me. however, this is a much different and serious situation. this is becoming a normal and habitual affair in which she believes she can say what she want and still wave the banner of christ. she is not a great example of christ's love, nor is she positively reflecting the ministry of this board. i am not addressing her as of now unless she is repentent of her actions. i hope that my fellow heathens will do the same. she is only invoking anger in us, and it is not right--especially from someone of the christian community. after all, that is the type of behavior that you would expect from a heathen. heh.
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Post by HSTN2983 on Jul 30, 2006 0:07:05 GMT -5
note: i have been responding with a, "hmm." to let her know that i have viewed her replies to me, but i would not reply any further until she apologizes for her actions. i doubt it is worth it, and people like that are futile in debate. sheesh, at least you can have a reasonably intelligent conversation with the others...even if they don't agree.
edit: be sure to check out my modified profile which includes a link to my personal xanga.
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Post by valentine on Jul 30, 2006 9:13:07 GMT -5
I think she's one of the (many) trolls here, HSTN. Ironic how it's the fundies, and not the heathens, who are having this problem. Very mature, y'all. Very.
If I had to guess, I'd say she reads a little bit like either Grant or Micah. Purely from an analysis of style, not meant out of maliciousness at all, and it's only a guess. Just trying to solve this nonsense.
Whoever Daisy is, I'm almost positive that she's a troll. A pretty funny one, though. Seems like somebody is saying all the things they've wanted to say about the mean, stupid heathens but have thusfar kept in check.
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Post by evanschaible on Jul 30, 2006 9:45:11 GMT -5
Seeing that she uses the term (and I use it here for demonstration, not in a serious context as it is profane and sinful), "LM@O" I would figure that she/he might want to examine the nature of her profession of faith. Please dont judge all of us by the worst case. At least come to a median by comaring the best and worst.
There woves in sheeps clothing. I will pose an analogy, "going to a bookstore does not make you a book" just like posting on a Field preachers message board, or going to church does not make you a Christian.
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Post by abb on Jul 30, 2006 10:41:44 GMT -5
I always thought the style was strikingly similar to PACP's... does that fit, val?
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Post by sequindaisies on Jul 30, 2006 12:44:44 GMT -5
this is not a personal attack. however, there are a few issues i would like to raise with this new member and her code of conduct. i think of this more as an intervention. there is a possibility, before i begin, that this member is concealing a previous pseudonym, or that it may be a secondary profile for another person. i am unaware to this and so i will treat her profile as i see it. sequindaisies joined the board this month, and has posted sixty-five times. she is a junior-level member in regards to the number of posts, but i want to point out something interesting to my fellow christians and heathens: she has yet to start a thread herself. i have reviewed all sixty-five of her replies, and have come up with some interesting numbers: sixty-three of sixty-five post results were actually found. now, i did the same research on my own profile and figured out that i was missing three or four out of almost nine hundred posts. i am not sure where the missing posts went, although two likely scenarios are possible: the lost comments were deleted by an administrator and/or the were posted in closed threads. this is not relevant, but i wanted you guys to know this fact should she come up with two lost threads that she created herself, before or on this day. secondly, she has posted in a total of twelve threads. here is the list: 1. why? 2. are you afraid? 3. what do you fear? 4. proof jesus rose from the dead! 5. god's plan is my plan...how convenient! 6. philadelphia homosexual parade this sunday 7. lessons from camp: peace 8. let us pray 9. faith 10. meeting with a catholic priest 11. it's too late for us to be saved... 12. warning to members seven of these were started by fellow heathens, myself included. she makes no contribution in the remaining five except to post verses, insults and anything negative. she is self-righteous to the extent of elitism. you can find evidence of this in all the christian topics that she contributed to in numbers four, six, eight, ten and a pointless post in twelve. let me remind you that she did all this in christian topics, but if we were to turn our eyes in the direction of world-view debating board you will see what sort of fruits this woman possesses. here are some of the lying quotes and verbal abuse from sequindaisies herself (to find these go to her profile and type in '65' in the recent posts, and it will pull up every thread she has commented in, and what it says to boot.): You don't believe on Christ, you believe in Allah, not the one true God, that is why you are stuck here.
Gee, Capital letters and lowercase, and sometimes the "duh" sound............ Getting out sock puppet for the conceptually impaired....
this is a few examples that need no context, but if you read some more...its quite frightening.she claims to be a christian. i do not understand why she has such a haughty attitude and love for ignorance, but she has yet to be corrected by the administrators. she does not believe that any of the heathens here deserves any sort of respect, and i will not tolerate such immature behavior. she sincerely believes she is better than non-believers, and does not even address us by name or pseudonym. she does not even consider us human. we need to keep people accountable for their actions. i am not asking for her to agree with what we believe, but to respect us and to apologize for her indecency. we all get upset, and we all say things that are better left unsaid. i have said terrible things, and others have done the same to me. however, this is a much different and serious situation. this is becoming a normal and habitual affair in which she believes she can say what she want and still wave the banner of christ. she is not a great example of christ's love, nor is she positively reflecting the ministry of this board. i am not addressing her as of now unless she is repentent of her actions. i hope that my fellow heathens will do the same. she is only invoking anger in us, and it is not right--especially from someone of the christian community. after all, that is the type of behavior that you would expect from a heathen. heh. HSTN, You told me to commit suicide, these are the fruits of you following Allah, you are the biggest hypocrite, you unbelievers are the biggest hypocrites, none of you see it, you slander, curse, belittle Christians everyday, you post on a Christian board to do so, that is your intent. From your Spaghetti Monster, to Abb telling me, my Dad needs to rape me. You deserve no respect, you do this every day to Christians, every day, but yet you have the nerve to say you are above rebuke in "like fashion". Hypocrites, you just can't take it, when it is given right back to you, every time you are disrespectful to Christians, I will give it right back to you, you deserve nothing. And I might add, HSTN, you are obsessed with having respect, and obsessed that you cannot obtain that from me, with your controlling nature, and insecurity, you have not shown to me or others respect in any regard. Pacifism is the new worldly approach to following God, having more tolerance to unrepentent sinners, than God says we should have. This is the world we live in today, the politically correct, the ones that say, oh look the other way, when it comes to sin, Don't call sin what it really is, you might offend someone. All of you dishonor my Lord, and God of this universe, He does not respect you, because you do not believe on His Son, you choose to live in Sin, and make fun of God, in every way possible, HSTN, you said God is vile, in God's eyes, you are vile. And I am a follower of Christ, and I will not let you heathens, speak the words of Satan, and trample Christians, anymore. So if it bothers you, if you cannot respond without malicious intent, and not address the topic at hand, but choose to use your selfish desires of Satanism, to use vulgarity, and attack the messenger, instead of actually having an intelligent conversation, with some maturity. Then I will hold you accountable.
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Post by oap001 on Jul 30, 2006 14:19:15 GMT -5
Seeing that she uses the term (and I use it here for demonstration, not in a serious context as it is profane and sinful), "LM@O" I would figure that she/he might want to examine the nature of her profession of faith. Please dont judge all of us by the worst case. At least come to a median by comaring the best and worst. There woves in sheeps clothing. I will pose an analogy, "going to a bookstore does not make you a book" just like posting on a Field preachers message board, or going to church does not make you a Christian. Evan Since I (PACP) was brought into this I'll respond. 1) We should all compare ourselves to Christ. Not the best and worst. If you think your better that the least of us here evanschaible it reveals something of your own spirit. 2) Dusty while everyone was in Church today you spent the entire afternoon composing this thread. You have way to much time on your hands. 3) As far as Daisy goes...I say let it ride. She/he? has a testimony where she is bold and conformational. I noticed that few (nicer than Jesus) Christians even engage in debate with the heathens. She has told it like it is....let it ride. 4) I could list statement after statement made by prominent street preachers. Daisy isn't that far off their mark and if you don't know that evanschaible you are either a fraud or a hypocrite.
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Post by oap001 on Jul 30, 2006 14:38:47 GMT -5
Psalm 15 Lord, who shall abide in thy tabernacle? 4 In whose eyes a vile person is contemned; but he honoureth them that fear the Lord.
The Bible calls these heathens vile they need to know it.
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Post by sequindaisies on Jul 30, 2006 17:50:32 GMT -5
]note: i have been responding with a, "hmm." to let her know that i have viewed her replies to me, but i would not reply any further until she apologizes for her actions. i doubt it is worth it, and people like that are futile in debate. sheesh, at least you can have a reasonably intelligent conversation with the others...even if they don't agree.
note: I have been responding with bible verses to said quotes, to let him know, that I have seen his empty replies, and that he is dead in sin. Until he apologizes for his actions toward me, and all other Christians, He will be condemned by the Word. I doubt this will make any impact to him, because it is futile to debate the ones that have choosen to deny God. They love their sins to much and live to serve self. God can give him the inner peace he searches for, and knock down his pride a few pegs. That he won't be looking to fulfill his need of gaining respect to make himself feel worthy, from strangers on the internet. If he believes on Christ, he would already know he is worthy. This isn't a personal attack or anything. Just an observation.
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Post by valentine on Jul 30, 2006 18:37:13 GMT -5
I always thought the style was strikingly similar to PACP's... does that fit, val? Actually, it does, a bit, especially since he's being very defensive in this thread. I kinda think the terrible grammar and nonsensical rambling reads as more deliberate with Daisy, though--this is somebody who does have intelligence but is choosing to behave as if they can't form a coherent sentence. At least, that's what it's saying to the person who can recognize all her friends by writing style. Of course, all of this is considered feeding the troll, which I'd rather not do on other forums I participate in, but in this case I'm happy to speculate with you all. And again, purely speculation. I have no idea who it is. Could even be that it's a very clever heathen.
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Post by sequindaisies on Jul 30, 2006 19:43:20 GMT -5
I always thought the style was strikingly similar to PACP's... does that fit, val? Actually, it does, a bit, especially since he's being very defensive in this thread. I kinda think the terrible grammar and nonsensical rambling reads as more deliberate with Daisy, though--this is somebody who does have intelligence but is choosing to behave as if they can't form a coherent sentence. At least, that's what it's saying to the person who can recognize all her friends by writing style. They tend to defend their own. Perhaps valentine is a pedophile too. Or perhaps valentine is a transvestite, he lied in other ways and you know valentine always sounds like he's nuts. Maybe that's how he throws people off.
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Post by sequindaisies on Jul 30, 2006 19:47:40 GMT -5
I always thought the style was strikingly similar to PACP's... does that fit, val? Oh for pete's sake you nut. I'm ME!!! Daisy, The ONLY Daisy, The REAL one, not one that's accused of being me, the real and actual ME and I've argued with your ignorance before. Just because YOU change names hourly doesn't mean everyone does.
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Post by biblethumper on Jul 30, 2006 19:55:36 GMT -5
I always thought the style was strikingly similar to PACP's... does that fit, val? Oh for pete's sake you nut. I'm ME!!! Daisy, The ONLY Daisy, The REAL one, not one that's accused of being me, the real and actual ME and I've argued with your ignorance before. Just because YOU change names hourly doesn't mean everyone does.I couldn't care who you are. The fact is you're a false convert, hypcrite, child of the devil... FALSE CONVERT ALERT! Stop attacking the heathens this way! FALSE CONVERT!
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Post by evanschaible on Jul 30, 2006 19:56:19 GMT -5
1) I was talking about sequidaisies, not you PACP. And I thik I am better than no one. The point of my post was to plead with those who may judge the whole church be the minorty that uses vulgar profanity and ungrounded insults to somehow further the cause of Christ. Matter of factly I was not even talking about you. What made you think I was is beyond me. Forgive me for the offense.
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Post by valentine on Jul 30, 2006 20:15:34 GMT -5
I always thought the style was strikingly similar to PACP's... does that fit, val? Actually, it does, a bit, especially since he's being very defensive in this thread. I kinda think the terrible grammar and nonsensical rambling reads as more deliberate with Daisy, though--this is somebody who does have intelligence but is choosing to behave as if they can't form a coherent sentence. At least, that's what it's saying to the person who can recognize all her friends by writing style. They tend to defend their own. Perhaps valentine is a pedophile too. Or perhaps valentine is a transvestite, he lied in other ways and you know valentine always sounds like he's nuts. Maybe that's how he throws people off.Yes, I am nuts. I put the "fun" in "dysfunctional." And yep, I'm definitely a pedophile transvestite 'cos I tell "lies." ;D A tip for the troll: when you're messing up your HTML tags in order to further prove how dumb you are, I'd suggest messing it up in different ways. You've made the same error about four posts in a row and it looks a lot more deliberate than you want it to look. Try rearranging the errors--maybe sometimes make it all italic, or underlined, or mix up the misquoting. I think you definitely have potential; you just need to be a bit more careful in your abuse of the keyboard!
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Post by rebecca02 on Jul 30, 2006 20:26:01 GMT -5
For God so LOVED the world that He gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16 We love these people sequindaises,please be nice...
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Post by biblethumper on Jul 30, 2006 20:56:25 GMT -5
A False Convert, sister Rebecca, cannot play nice... they are false; hence, they lie, cheat, sin and are sinful.
Sequin is of his/her father, the devil (John 8:44)
FALSE CONVERT!
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Post by biblethumper on Jul 30, 2006 20:57:31 GMT -5
Sequin Said: Perhaps valentine is a pedophile too
These are not the words of a Believer.
These are the words, without exception, of a False Convert.
To say such is to be guilty of slander and defamation.
FALSE CONVERT!
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Post by sequindaisies on Jul 30, 2006 21:12:00 GMT -5
For God so LOVED the world that He gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16 We love these people sequindaises,please be nice... I believe you must be referring to Bible Thumper. Is that correct?
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Post by sequindaisies on Jul 30, 2006 21:16:14 GMT -5
Sequin Said: Perhaps valentine is a pedophile too These are not the words of a Believer. These are the words, without exception, of a False Convert. To say such is to be guilty of slander and defamation. FALSE CONVERT! You took one out to dinner, you rewarded him, for the sin he committed. How can you say you represent Christ? You speak with your mouth, my your heart is not with Christ, if you love evil.
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Post by valentine on Jul 30, 2006 21:23:12 GMT -5
Awww, thanks for defending me, Thumper! ;D
It's fine, though. If I got all huffy about it, it would suggest a defense mechanism, and that I actually did have something to hide. As it stands, I just think it's funny--complete with the misrepresentation of my gender when it's clearly displayed under my username. I still think he should try to make his stupidity a bit less systematic, though.
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Post by sequindaisies on Jul 30, 2006 21:31:16 GMT -5
Awww, thanks for defending me, Thumper! ;D It's fine, though. If I got all huffy about it, it would suggest a defense mechanism, and that I actually did have something to hide. As it stands, I just think it's funny--complete with the misrepresentation of my gender when it's clearly displayed under my username. I still think he should try to make his stupidity a bit less systematic, though. What I find funny is that you couldn't understand the innuendo, for a transvestite, you should hear it quite often. Oh well, another slow one.
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Post by rebecca02 on Jul 30, 2006 21:34:47 GMT -5
sequindaisies, That is so crude! Please do not talk to valentine like that.You have the wrong valentine and DEFINITELY the wrong board!
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Post by messengermicah on Jul 30, 2006 21:47:03 GMT -5
I saw my name mentioned there so I just want to let everyone know I am not daisy.
I have not read any of her threads until this one, so I was unaware of this situation until now.
Come on now Val, my grammar and typing is usually pretty good isn't it?
I am not saying I am in agreement with Daisy's posts or not because I haven't read them, but I would agree that most of the "nicer than Jesus" Christians on this board never even attempt to debate the heathens (great quote pacp).
From what I have read I think pacp does a great job of debating the heathens. Most of the "nicer than Jesus" Christians need to pay attention to how pacp deals with the heathens. It is necessary to answer a fool according to his folly, show yourself forward with the forward and not cast your pearls before swine.
Open rebuke is better than secret love (Proverbs 27:5).
I think once somebody proves all their arguments wrong and makes them look ridiculous they like to cry that you are not being loving like Christ, etc.
I am through debating overly sensitive people on this board.
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Post by biblethumper on Jul 30, 2006 21:57:19 GMT -5
Micah is NOT daisy....
daisy is a foul mouthed False Convert.
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Post by valentine on Jul 30, 2006 22:01:17 GMT -5
Micah: What I meant in my post was that the poor grammar was deliberate, which is why I didn't think it was pacp because his grammar is atrocious and I think he just doesn't know how to write. I think the style sounds like somebody living out their vindictive fantasies, somebody who knows how to write but is pretending that they don't. So I think it's someone with more control but who honestly dislikes "heathens" very much and wanted to express it without defaming themselves. As for you specifically...it was a gut feeling and nothing more than a guess. 'Course, I could be Daisy for all y'all know, so you saying that you're not doesn't really help all that much. Loveyas, too, Rebecca. ::hugs:: EDIT: Y'all do realize that Daisy is totally sitting here reading this thread and reveling in us talking about him like this, right? 'Cos as long as you're okay with troll-feeding I'm more than happy to keep it up, but just thought I'd bring it to your attention.
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Post by messengermicah on Jul 30, 2006 22:06:12 GMT -5
Val,
So does that mean my grammar, spelling, typing, etc. are pretty good? At least for a fundie street preacher?
You have never rebuked me for it.
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Post by oap001 on Jul 30, 2006 22:29:33 GMT -5
1) I was talking about sequidaisies, not you PACP. And I thik I am better than no one. The point of my post was to plead with those who may judge the whole church be the minorty that uses vulgar profanity and ungrounded insults to somehow further the cause of Christ. Matter of factly I was not even talking about you. What made you think I was is beyond me. Forgive me for the offense. There is no need to apologize. I was annoyed that you felt that she is a false convert. I don't see any profanity in her posts. I probably wouldn't agree with everything she says. But I maintain, she has a method of operation, let her do her thing. I think its fair to debate her tactics but to say she is not a Christian is without Merritt. Biblethumper...I consider you a Christian brother but I feel that you are to much like the heathens and the world. You offered no rebuke for their remarks to Daisy..such as go kill yourself and something about being raped by her father. For that I am disappointed in you. You made the accusation that she is a false convert now back it up or retract it.
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Post by HSTN2983 on Jul 31, 2006 0:16:39 GMT -5
i think i proved something in this post, and that is that the administrator/moderator(s) needs to look in our direction and take the appropriate action.
daisy admitted in this post that she usually posts bible verses, and said so in reaction to my "hmm." reply. i will assume that everyone will notice that she has yet to post a verse, or anything constructive thus far in this thread.
however, let me make this point. i did not write this post for all of you to choose sides and get involved. you have all been very mature about this, but several times almost proved that an argument was about to break loose.
remember, this is exactly what daisy wants. she doesn't care if you are christian or heathen. she simply wants to cause dissension.
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also, i expected her to point fingers as she did in her first reply. sure, the heathens on this board have said things to her that were not christian in nature. however, she is forgetting one thing: we are not christians.
how is a heathen supposed to behave like a christian? after all, christians shouldn't behave like heathens, either...
note: for the record, i did not tell her to commit suicide, i suggested that it might be beneficial in response to an earlier thread reply that she was involved in.
please remember that these boards are much like anything else, including the bible.
context is key! shalom.
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Post by abb on Jul 31, 2006 9:34:26 GMT -5
Jesse could settle this easily by looking up daisy's IP address.
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