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Post by evanschaible on Aug 29, 2006 10:05:30 GMT -5
Ontology is another science in which one cannot have any working knowledge unless they presuppose God. This is because ontology (the science of being), deal with something that is a menace to naturalistic thought, the human consciousness.
1) If you are a naturalist, where exactly does the human consciousness come from?
2) Also, how do you explain anything within this branch of metaphysics apart from the presupposition, "in the beginning God..."
"In [God] we live and move and have our BEING" (Acts 17:18; emphasis added).
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Post by evanschaible on Aug 30, 2006 14:22:14 GMT -5
Well, okay then. I see that no one is interested in challenging the Christian worldview any more, just using pointless ad hominem argumentation in other threads.
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Post by cervyy on Aug 30, 2006 14:25:29 GMT -5
Well, it's hard to effectively debate pure insanity. I thought it was pretty rediculous and self-defeating all by itself.
Why help it die, when it's already there?
;D
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Post by evanschaible on Aug 30, 2006 14:33:54 GMT -5
Ungrounded statements, prove what you say.
Naturalism cannot account for the consciousness. Prove otherwise, dont just assert, offer proof.
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Post by cervyy on Aug 30, 2006 14:42:14 GMT -5
: I love all the assuming you do. Like, you assume I'm a naturalist?? Well, I can honestly say that I'm not based off what you have here. I do believe something created us, therefore our consciousness. You just choose to believe in a tyrant for a God. Also, when did I say it was ungrounded? Just insane. HOWEVER, having to presuppose God is a prerequistite?? I don't know ANYTHING about metaphysics or that chunk of science. So if you wanna feel superior by flashing around your knowledge of metaphysics. Be my guest. Whatever helps you sleep at night. Where is your proof anyway?? I know nothing on the subject, yet it is clearly insane because you too have nothing to offer but your own opinion. *sigh* silly fundy
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Post by evanschaible on Aug 30, 2006 14:44:47 GMT -5
Then why did you respond? You put on a good facade with your first post. I am really weary of your posting habit. You seem to know nothing about everything, and you make sure everyone knows it. In much words ignorance is known (par.).
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Post by cervyy on Aug 30, 2006 14:50:54 GMT -5
No, I made it clear why your post is insane, like my first post said. I KNEW it was an incomplete agrument.
See, I know when I don't know something, yet you seem to think you do know everything just because believe in God.
And if you've got a problem with my posting ways then take it up with the big man. Complaining about won't change anything.
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Post by evanschaible on Aug 30, 2006 14:55:33 GMT -5
The argument is left open for discussion - the point of this forum.
Anyway...
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