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Post by dale on Sept 3, 2006 11:04:11 GMT -5
Sorry, but I cannot resist this one. I just can't. I just have to yield to the temptation. This is a two pointer.
1. Mr Devidal sent me a pm asking why the use of the word Xion and normally I would keep pms personal but this is a valid question and deserves a valid response that Im will share with everyone, in case others ask the same thing. You would most likely have to be up on secular affairs to get the Xion thing, which shows me some of you do not know the enemy that well!
The use of Xion in ref. to Christians began with an atheist or agnostic of some kind, someplace and caught on. It was derivied from Christians a few years back and their slogan of Put Christ Back into Xmas. Some Einstein from our side came up with the idea to call them Xions as it would get to them and evidently it worked.
Now to part two and I really, really, REALLY cannot resist this.
I know what the main problem for Mr Dividal is, just by looking at the picture in the posts he makes The one with the caption about his head hurting.
His head is way TOO BIG!
THIS IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH MOST CHRISTIANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by SlowBro on Sept 3, 2006 22:24:50 GMT -5
The use of Xion in ref. to Christians began with an atheist or agnostic of some kind, someplace and caught on. It was derivied from Christians a few years back and their slogan of Put Christ Back into Xmas. Some Einstein from our side came up with the idea to call them Xions as it would get to them and evidently it worked. Yeah, this isn't news to me. I'd actually heard it was a Christian concept, NOT an atheist one. As you said in the PM, you say it to be an annoyance. A little dale fly buzzing in my ear, eh? ;D I just wondered if you were afraid of saying Jesus's or Christ's name (outside of cursing), which I think is one way I would know I was dealing with a demon -- demons can't even say His name. Can you say His name without cursing? Go ahead, say it... Now to part two and I really, really, REALLY cannot resist this. I know what the main problem for Mr Dividal is, just by looking at the picture in the posts he makes The one with the caption about his head hurting. His head is way TOO BIG! THIS IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH MOST CHRISTIANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HEHEHEHEHE AMEN Mr. Ateiz! (Am I afraid of saying atheist?) ;D Yes, I am a very arrogant man. I am quite ashamed of that. Yet I will boast in my weakness "so that the power of Christ may rest upon me." (2 Corinthians 12:9 ESV) And even better news: The arrogance is slipping away! Arrogance is one of the Christian's biggest problems. It is a stumbling block to atheists and others. Indeed arrogance infects our worship, our lives, our loves, EVERYTHING! It's dreadful. The good news is we are being made more and more Christ-like all the time. The power of sanctification was purchased at the cross! I am being sanctified daily and will look more and more like Christ every day. The more I act like Christ the less arrogance is a problem, for there was no one more humble than He. Though if I should wish to boast, I would not be a fool, for I would be speaking the truth. But I refrain from it, so that no one may think more of me than he sees in me or hears from me. So to keep me from being too elated by the surpassing greatness of the revelations, a thorn was given me in the flesh, a messenger of Satan to harass me, to keep me from being too elated. Three times I pleaded with the Lord about this, that it should leave me. But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly of my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may rest upon me. For the sake of Christ, then, I am content with weaknesses, insults, hardships, persecutions, and calamities. For when I am weak, then I am strong. (2 Corinthians 12:6-10 ESV) So can you say Jesus Christ's name without cursing? Can you at least compliment him as a good teacher, as very humble?
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Post by abb on Sept 4, 2006 0:34:48 GMT -5
Chances are, he didn't exist.
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Post by dale on Sept 4, 2006 6:05:19 GMT -5
Oh I don 't know about this one. In the Bible somewhere doesn;t a demon call Jesus by name something along the line of "What do you want of us Jesus, son of the most high god?" You see the scene in nearly every Jesus movie in the market.
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Post by SlowBro on Sept 4, 2006 10:27:54 GMT -5
Oh I don 't know about this one. In the Bible somewhere doesn;t a demon call Jesus by name something along the line of "What do you want of us Jesus, son of the most high god?" You see the scene in nearly every Jesus movie in the market. Perhaps you're right. I'd heard that doctrine somewhere in my past and perhaps it wasn't true. You used His name properly, without cursing. Can you also pay Him a compliment, even if He didn't exist?
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Post by dale on Sept 4, 2006 11:00:27 GMT -5
He has a nice hairdo in those paintings of him!
Seriously, whether in truth or in fiction, one can of course see how the world would be better off if at least a handful of the teachings were followed by everyone. Ither words by Jesus or attributed to him are absolurely absurd. Still, yeah, I can go there with you, even if you are trying to set me up for something here. Yes, there are some things "He" would have said that you could learn from, just as you could learn a lesson from an Aesop's Fable about the fox and the grapes or whatever. The problem is with the XIONS (Just had to do it) you have to believe all or nothing. I could go further on this argument but it would simply be rehashingwhat others have already posted, so why bother. The bulk of my views correspond with the rest of the axis of evil here and toa rgue the point is like listening to an 8 track, the same message over and over until the taope wears out.
I believe it was on this very site where I saw the Gahndi quote , "I love your christ. I do not love your christians. Your christians are so unlike your christ." (paraphrased, but pretty close)
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Post by SlowBro on Sept 4, 2006 13:10:01 GMT -5
Still, yeah, I can go there with you, even if you are trying to set me up for something here. Yes, there are some things "He" would have said that you could learn from, just as you could learn a lesson from an Aesop's Fable about the fox and the grapes or whatever. ;D That's all I wanted to see, no set-ups. I believe it was on this very site where I saw the Gahndi quote , "I love your christ. I do not love your christians. Your christians are so unlike your christ." (paraphrased, but pretty close) I know that's true. I am embarrassed of them and correct as I see necessary. But even the Apostle Paul identified himself as the chief of sinners. Chris is arrogant. Christ in Chris is amazing.
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Post by dale on Sept 5, 2006 14:48:41 GMT -5
Even using the bible and iperating on the supposition it is all real, I do not thinkt he argument that a person possessed by the demons would be able toi uttert he name of Jesus and not curse him holds water. Let us just play in your ball park for a minute and suppose this is all real and not a fairy tale.
1.There is somewhere in there, I think where Jesus is casting the demons out of the man and putting them in the pigs, where one of them says :What have you to do with us Jesus, son of the most high god...."
2.Somewhere I think in acts, a group of pseudochristians try to exorcise a man of demons, invoking the names of Jesus and Paul and the guy goes "Jesus I know and Paul I know, but who are you and turns on them."
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Post by SlowBro on Sept 5, 2006 20:55:15 GMT -5
Yeah as I mentioned it was a doctrine I'd heard years ago and I'd just accepted it without much Scriptural examination. Guess it was wrong. Or perhaps I misunderstood it.
Whatever, it's not very important.
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Post by dale on Sept 6, 2006 7:58:57 GMT -5
So does this mean i could still be possessed by the devil like in the monster movies?
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Post by SlowBro on Sept 7, 2006 10:02:26 GMT -5
So does this mean i could still be possessed by the devil like in the monster movies? Or like in Scripture, yes. There are other symptoms.
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Post by cervyy on Sept 7, 2006 12:51:12 GMT -5
Isn't demonic possesion just an excuse for sinning and having it not be your fault??
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Post by abb on Sept 7, 2006 20:55:03 GMT -5
And execution.
Remember, the Salem Witch Hunts, the mass witch hunts in Europe....
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