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Post by messengermicah on Jun 2, 2008 14:12:19 GMT -5
thunder,
I really like Jed Smock as a person and I think his book "Who Will Rise Up?" is great. It greatly stirred me like no other book I have ever read and God used it to call me into full time campus preaching.
I appreciate how Jed Smock has been a pioneer in campus evangelism and how he was influenced by Charles Finney.
I do not agree with Jed on some things and do not approve of everything he does or has done. Actually I do not even agree with everything I have ever done.
I think we can all learn from each other and do not need to agree on everything to learn from one another.
You seem to have a handle on how to preach. I would like to learn from you!
Please post some video footage of yourself preaching to large, angry hostile crowds who are bombarding you from every direction with trick questions, false accusations, threats, false doctrine, etc.
1) Do you preach open air? If not why not?
2) If you do then do you confront sin and sinners in no vague and uncertain terms? I hope you do with a name for yourself like "Thunder".
If you do confront sin and sinners in no vague and uncertain terms then you are sure to attract a large, angry crowd around you with you denouncing their sin and letting them know they are not right with God and if they do not get right they will go to hell.
3) If you really do the above then students will surely post it on youtube or maybe even better, you have some footage you took yourself so it will not have the students biased slant on it.
Please post some footage so we can all learn from you and pattern ourselves after you and not after people like Jed Smock.
Put up or shut up!
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Post by dale on Jun 5, 2008 8:05:58 GMT -5
Looks like you backed the guy down, Micah. Boy, you're the man, I'm telling you. You remind me of a Christian version of me except for the goofy hat.
Let me interject with a challenge of my own, being this other got ignored you by the look of it. (And I do not know enough about this Smock guy to really comment. Saw his page once, after seeing his name mentioned, which did nothing for me. Found him to be routine, not the preacher yous eem to idolize nor the type this other guy seems to demonize.
The next time you are in Ohio, since this is becoming a second home for you by the looks of your travels, let me say two words.
New Philadelphia.
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Post by thunder on Jun 5, 2008 13:46:38 GMT -5
First, what made you think I was a Christian, let alone a street preacher? Thunder refers not to any noise from my mouth when preaching, but the other end, via too much Mexican food at El San Jose. Judging by some of the posts I have read here, the same might go for some of you.
As for you Micah, it is because of people like you I am not a Christian. If all christians are like you, I look forward to going to hell. From what I have heard of you and your hero Smock, you all deserve whatever people throw at you as you ask for it. I would love to egg you myself.
You have said repeatedly you will not listen to nonchristians dictating to you how to preach, so why in turn should I listen to you, with an order to put up or shut up. Your arrogance amazes me. Get over yourself, pal. You are full of a healthy dose of yourself and hot air, really. Just get over yourself and repent of your pride.
If you are so great a man of God , why do you nto have a better success rate? You are in it for your own ego and satisfaction I think. Can you orove otherwise? I doubt it. Maybe you should win me over. Maybe you should put up or shut up. I have seen plenty of video of you and the others. You are horrible at what you say and do.
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Post by thunder on Jun 5, 2008 14:01:25 GMT -5
By the way, Micah, I bet you think Fred Phelps is a great preacher and great man of God also, huh?
You opened this can of worms. Now live with it.
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Post by messengermicah on Jun 9, 2008 10:28:59 GMT -5
Where do you ever get the idea that everyone loved Jesus and converted to Him?
Do you have any idea why He was nailed to a cross and crucified? You obviously do not so I will tell you why.
John 7:7-The world cannot you but me it hates because I testify of it that the works thereof are evil.
This is a direct quote from Jesus. He said the world (not just the religious people) HATED HIM. Why thunder?
Because the world HATED HIM.
Do you know what else thunder? Another direct quote from Jesus in John 15:18-19 was:
If the world HATE YOU you know that it HATED ME BEFORE IT HATED YOU.
If you were of the world the world would love his own but because you are not of the world but I have chosen you out of the world therefore the WORLD HATES YOU.
Can you understand that thunder? Jesus, the one I am following and patterning my life after said He was hated by the world (so much that they crucified Him) and if I am representing Him properly and preaching the same message He preached then the world will also HATE ME.
You are proof that the Bible is true thunder. Your hatred of me proves the Bible is true and that I am truly representing the Jesus of the Bible and preaching the same message He preached.
Success rate?
Are you aware Jesus Himself said most people would go to hell?
Matthew 7:13-14-Enter ye in at the straight gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction and MANY THERE BE WHICH GO IN THEREAT.
Because straight is the gate and narrow is the way that leads to life and FEW THERE BE THAT FIND IT.
You are just one of the many who are on the broad road to hell thunder. You love your sin and hate God. That is why you are going to hell. Not because of me.
1 John 1:5-God is light.
John 3:19-20-And this is the condemnation (this is why you are condemned thunder) that light (God is light) is come into the world and men loved darkness (sin) rather than light (God) because their deeds were evil.
For everyone that does evil hates the light neither comes to the light lest his deeds should be reproved (exposed).
You are selfish thunder. That is why you are living in rebellion against God. That is why you deserve hell. Hell is for selfish, pleasure seeking people like yourself.
You need to repent and make Jesus your Lord.
By the way I do not think Fred Phelps is any more saved than Joel Osteen, Paula White, Billy Graham, or T.D. Jakes.
He does not believe homosexuals can be saved. I do. He does not believe Jesus died for everyone. I do.
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Post by art on Jun 19, 2008 9:58:33 GMT -5
Well aren' t ypu the one. Get over yourself Micah.
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Post by thunder on Jun 22, 2008 6:23:20 GMT -5
I just stopped in to deny your challenge. Bye, Micah.
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Post by art on Jun 22, 2008 17:37:40 GMT -5
Looks like a hit and run. Ha,ha,ha, ha,ha,ha,ha.
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