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Post by Kerrigan on Jul 20, 2008 12:21:45 GMT -5
The guy who is doing the confronting, emailed me the link to watch the video. What do you guys think? CLICK HERE
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Post by bullhornbob on Jul 20, 2008 16:40:02 GMT -5
I say AMEN. He made it real clear that these kids are in sin and are not saved. You can tell by listening to the responses they give to scripture. "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them." Ephesians 5:11I have had run-ins with them as well. It is very alarming the amount of compromise people are enduring. Here is another link from a couple of years ago that I did not even know about until a week ago. The girl trying to rebuke me was a cigarette smoking hypocrite who defended sin. The redhead guy from this mockery of a ministry was there as well, but they did not include our exchange in the clip. www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=01feb739b06c399e9cd9Great to finally meet you Kerrigan.
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Post by Kerrigan on Jul 20, 2008 17:04:49 GMT -5
I say AMEN. He made it real clear that these kids are in sin and are not saved. You can tell by listening to the responses they give to scripture. "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them." Ephesians 5:11I have had run-ins with them as well. It is very alarming the amount of compromise people are enduring. Here is another link from a couple of years ago that I did not even know about until a week ago. The girl trying to rebuke me was a cigarette smoking hypocrite who defended sin. The redhead guy from this mockery of a ministry was there as well, but they did not include our exchange in the clip. www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=01feb739b06c399e9cd9Great to finally meet you Kerrigan. Great to finally meet you too brother. I say Amen to your comments brother. The video from Godtube is just another example of the garbage these people promote. The girl who was sitting at your feet "praying"...is she in the porn industry? If so, I can't believe that they would basically say that she is a Christian! Ridiculous... By the way, you know what "Bible" they have behind the "Jesus Loves Pornstars"? The "Message Translation"! It isn't even a translation! It's a commentary!
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Post by prespilot68 on Jul 20, 2008 18:27:49 GMT -5
This is just another sign of how bad off the current church really is. Is it no surprise that we see this when we have doctrines out there that tells people they are not sinners by choice but by birth. The guy from XXXChurch clearly says at the beginning of the video "I can't help but sin". This is so heartbreaking to see.
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Post by john316yes on Jul 20, 2008 18:34:59 GMT -5
The guy who is confronting this guy is a jerk and is confused.
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Post by john316yes on Jul 20, 2008 18:41:39 GMT -5
revk it seems that you agree with the guy interagating this young man, thats not right. That guy was out of line and confused. Christians still fall short of God's Glory all the time, though they have overcome many sins through the power of the Holy spirit. I bet that guy sins all the time and does even know it. Having a bad attitude towards somebody is a sin. He sinned.
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Post by HDmatt on Jul 20, 2008 19:09:33 GMT -5
I am very discouraged by seeing that. What in the world were the XXXcult people doing? Why in the world did preacher guy say Jesus never loved anybody? Is everybody nuts? Props to the preacher for guttin it up and tearin away at sin in perfect love to bring people to God. I was encouraged when I heard that girl say that it disturbed some of the people there. Good. Porn & holiness don't mix. Sex & holiness does. Porn is gratification to death, Sex in the marital bed is consumation of perfect covenant, a holy act when the people are children of God. That stuff will mess with your head! Amazing ..................
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Post by pete777 on Jul 20, 2008 19:36:40 GMT -5
The Christian porn people are a deceived! They must repent or burn! If you are saying you agree with that kind of sick antichrist filth, then you need prayer! The man that rebuked them is a blessing, and I praise God that he rebuked those workers of iniquity! If you agree in anyway or sympathize with them in any way, you are a partaker of their sin!
The day within which we live are as Sodom and Gommorah! This is typical behavior of confusion!
Maybe we should pray for them on second thought! But their behavior needs to be rebuked with all authority! This kind of stuff is upsetting, its not just some doctrinal confusion, but deep wickedness! Anyway, I altered my comments and I hope they are more in line with the love of Christ!
Matthew
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Post by Steve Noel on Jul 20, 2008 19:58:22 GMT -5
I don't know much about the XXXChurch but it's clear to me from the video that these young people are the result of the typical lax Christianity in America. Though I agree with much of the guy's theology that's confronting them I do think he's speaking over their head. It's obvious they don't come from a background where they understand where he's coming from. Basically my reaction is one of pity for these young people who are sitting under compromised preaching and teaching and they don't realize it. Maybe this encounter will be a seed planted in their hearts to question what it appears they're being taught.
By the way, I voted that both are partly right because I do not think the guy doing the confronting was fully correct in his application of 1 John nor in his attitude at the end.
Steve
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Post by pete777 on Jul 20, 2008 20:36:19 GMT -5
Brethern,
How can a sinner help a fellow sinner? One slave can not set another slave free! The porn boys are not able to do anything for anybody but promote sin! They do not know the gospel, therefore, they can not share it! Therefore, their ministry is of the devil!!!
Matthew
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Post by HDmatt on Jul 20, 2008 21:02:57 GMT -5
No pete, I promise I am not siding with people who make Jesus into a bandaid for bad days. Or a anti-depressant. They are fighting aids with chicken soup so to speak. They don't understand the depth of the disease, so they don't value the cure. The only hesitation I had with the preacher was explained well by Mr. Steve Noel in his post. Again though, I admire the intestinal fortitude & zeal of said preacher in the fight for people's destiny. I wasn't there, he was.
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Post by Josh Parsley on Jul 20, 2008 22:34:34 GMT -5
These guys remind me of a group that came out to "balance out" our preaching and signs. They had signs like "Jesus turned water into wine" and "Jesus loves you."
It is sad. People like this just really don't understand what they are doing. When you tell a drunk that Jesus turned water into wine and a porn star that Jesus loves them and say nothing else... you basically just give them an immunization shot to make sure they don't get converted. You delude their mind where they can't really count the cost, understand the Gospel, and then repent.
Dear God! What is wrong with someone who can even imagine a porn star being a Christian!
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Post by prespilot68 on Jul 21, 2008 12:53:51 GMT -5
revk it seems that you agree with the guy interagating this young man, thats not right. That guy was out of line and confused. Christians still fall short of God's Glory all the time, though they have overcome many sins through the power of the Holy spirit. I bet that guy sins all the time and does even know it. Having a bad attitude towards somebody is a sin. He sinned. John316yes - are you telling me that you actually support a ministry such as XXXChurch? Are you truly saying you would rather rebuke men and women who preach the gospel of repentance than rebuke folks who are trying to mix light and darkness? If so then You sir are deceived! You have perverted God's gospel! The more I see your name on a post the more I see an individual who defends sin more than defending holiness.
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Post by Kerrigan on Jul 21, 2008 13:27:56 GMT -5
Preston, john316yes is definitely a defender of sin and one who loves to come against the doctrine of holiness. As far as the guy on the video who is doing the rebuking, I don't agree with everything he said (mainly that we are born sinners), but I do agree with most. Also, I don't think he understand the xxx church. They exist to "help" people get out of porn. I think he was confused about that part...BUT the "xxx church" needed a rebuke! They are doing a lot more damage then good!
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Post by pete777 on Jul 24, 2008 0:42:59 GMT -5
HDmatt,
I feel sorry for them! They are deceived! They do not have a clue what they are doing! I do not think they are "band-aid boys" either! I think Steve had a point that they are a product from "LAX-Christianity," but that does not excuse their offensive efforts to share Christ! What Christ are they sharing? The "New Age Cosmic christ," or Jesus Christ of the Word of God!
One additional note! How did Christianity get so lax? How did the church become so tainted with wickedness? The "New Age church" is a product of the "New Age bibles." These wicked perversions are the result of Roman Catholic Jesuit devils called Bishop Westcott and Bishop Hort. Both of these men were the driving force behind the 1881 edition of the Revised Version, which was supposed to be an improvement of the KJV, but they went and used different manuscripts from the Vaticanus and the Alexandrian line, thus, corrupting the R.V. into a Roman Catholic Bible. Thus, the LAX nature of modern Christianity is due in LARGE part to the efforts of the Papal church! Westcott and Hort were wicked servants of Satan! The Bibles that are from their translation (all modern bibles) are wicked and perverted! All of them!
Matthew
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Post by HDmatt on Jul 28, 2008 23:00:04 GMT -5
No doubt, new pseudo bibles are haggard. What can be done with XXX church? Prayer I guess
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Post by Evan Schaible on Jul 29, 2008 2:15:08 GMT -5
AMEN, I want to meet that brother.
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Post by Kerrigan on Jul 29, 2008 9:15:53 GMT -5
Good to see you back on the message board Brother Evan. I like the second quote in your signature. How are things out in California? Are you still being faithful to preach in the open air? Congratulations on your marriage brother! I saw some pictures on Giancarlo's MySpace. Praise the Lord!
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