Post by Jesse Morrell on Aug 8, 2008 16:31:45 GMT -5
The Broken Heart of God:
"And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart." Gen 6:5-6
"I am broken with their whorish heart, which hath departed from me." Eze 6:9
"For the hurt of the daughter of my people am I hurt." Jer 8:21
"Oh that my head were waters, and mine eyes a fountain of tears, that I might weep day and night for the slain of the daughters of my people!" Jer 9:1
"What could have been done more to my vineyard, that I have not done in it? Wherefore, when I looked that it should bring forth grapes, brought it forth wild grapes?" Isa. 5:4
"Jesus wept." Jn. 11:35
How do Calvinists reconcile this with their view of "Sovereignty"??
One Calvinist recently said to me, "he is not heartbroken over the world... the Gospel is not a Gospel of a heartbroken God unable to save."
In their view, God gets everything that He wants, man's will cannot resist God's will. Therefore, everyone God wants to saved will be saved, everyone does what God wants, and therefore God has no reason to be broken hearted.
Basically, when the god of Calvinism looks at the world, He secretly thinks to Himself, "There is nothing wrong with the world. This is exactly how I want the world to be. It is good. Look at the beautiful world that I have created and control."
But that is not the God of the Bible:
BEFORE THE FALL:
"And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good." Gen. 1:31
AFTER THE FALL:
"And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart." Gen 6:5-6
God rejoiced at what His omnipotence created. But God grieved over the sin that man's free will created. God did not create sin, God does not control sinners as far as their moral actions are concerned. They are in rebellion against God's Sovereignty.
"And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart." Gen 6:5-6
"I am broken with their whorish heart, which hath departed from me." Eze 6:9
"For the hurt of the daughter of my people am I hurt." Jer 8:21
"Oh that my head were waters, and mine eyes a fountain of tears, that I might weep day and night for the slain of the daughters of my people!" Jer 9:1
"What could have been done more to my vineyard, that I have not done in it? Wherefore, when I looked that it should bring forth grapes, brought it forth wild grapes?" Isa. 5:4
"Jesus wept." Jn. 11:35
How do Calvinists reconcile this with their view of "Sovereignty"??
One Calvinist recently said to me, "he is not heartbroken over the world... the Gospel is not a Gospel of a heartbroken God unable to save."
In their view, God gets everything that He wants, man's will cannot resist God's will. Therefore, everyone God wants to saved will be saved, everyone does what God wants, and therefore God has no reason to be broken hearted.
Basically, when the god of Calvinism looks at the world, He secretly thinks to Himself, "There is nothing wrong with the world. This is exactly how I want the world to be. It is good. Look at the beautiful world that I have created and control."
But that is not the God of the Bible:
BEFORE THE FALL:
"And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good." Gen. 1:31
AFTER THE FALL:
"And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart." Gen 6:5-6
God rejoiced at what His omnipotence created. But God grieved over the sin that man's free will created. God did not create sin, God does not control sinners as far as their moral actions are concerned. They are in rebellion against God's Sovereignty.