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Post by debonnaire on Oct 5, 2008 5:59:11 GMT -5
if some of you guys are tired to live in America because you stumble once in a while into a street preacher, if that is really a torture for you, you can emigrate to Saudi Arabia or some other paradisiacal place. I guarantee you won’t come across any street preacher there. North Korea is also a choice destination ; of course you would have to bow down before the Kim dude once in a while, but you'll keep your statute of agnosticism. In these most wanted destinations and many others, being a hater of Christian religion and of the Bible is a great plus to be accepted at the Immigration office. Oh if you like some comfort, France could be a good alternative , the few agnostic Americans who have settled there have never complained. PM me when you arrive, I’ll pay you a coffee.
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Post by evilart on Oct 5, 2008 7:13:11 GMT -5
I have a better idea, as a Christian why don't YOU go to North Korea and Saudi Arabia and preach against atheism, communism and Allah?
Why don't you want to suffer for your made up God and be a martyr for his cause?
And I think I would be better off in North Korea than I will be ynder the theocracy Sara Palin would want to bring to America, along with her right wing nut jobs.
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Post by debonnaire on Oct 5, 2008 8:30:24 GMT -5
No i've already planned to go to Algeria.... I see that the idea to take refuge in PyongYang is going its way. Good
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Post by dale on Oct 5, 2008 8:48:25 GMT -5
On the now very unlikely chance McCain and Palin win the election, we are out of here as I now wish I would have done when Bush won his second term. I am already shifting some interests to South America
I truly hope none of the street boys on the board have a major fire for the Lord to go down to Uruguay, Argentina or Chile to preach.
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Post by evilart on Oct 5, 2008 10:53:26 GMT -5
I have a better idea. Have all the Christians leave America and go live with this brother in Christ in France
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Post by debonnaire on Oct 5, 2008 12:47:33 GMT -5
that is a great idea , as it would be a great benefit for France to have all these preachers of righteousness. On the opposite, there would be less hope for America then...
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Post by davidvalley on Oct 6, 2008 10:41:45 GMT -5
that is a great idea , as it would be a great benefit for France to have all these preachers of righteousness. On the opposite, there would be less hope for America then... Now I don't like France but not even I would wish that on them. lol
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Post by debonnaire on Oct 6, 2008 12:47:29 GMT -5
lol ;D
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Post by bounbough on Dec 24, 2008 0:23:34 GMT -5
We are proud to be a witness for the Gospel of Our Lord Jesus Christ on the streets of Bangkok in the Kingdom of Thailand. Here are some common things that people say to us: "You RUINED MY HOLIDAY!" "I came to Thailand to get AWAY from you people" "This is a Buddhist country" (derrr really?) Yet millions of sex tourists plough through this country every year and nobody bats an eyelid.
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Post by valentine on Dec 25, 2008 10:08:03 GMT -5
I've got a better idea: how about all you "preachers" who whine about how America is ruining your ~*freedom of religion*~ head off to ... well, any of the countries mentioned and see how well your attempts to legislate your religion go over there.
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Post by messengermicah on Dec 25, 2008 11:30:49 GMT -5
Just as soon as all you homos and sodomites who are always whining about how you don't have equal rights here go to those muslim countries under islamic law and try to push your legislation over there.
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Post by valentine on Dec 26, 2008 15:25:59 GMT -5
Just as soon as all you homos and sodomites who are always whining about how you don't have equal rights here go to those muslim countries under islamic law and try to push your legislation over there. ...Micah, seriously? And I say this with concern? This might help. Find a new obsession, really, sir. Even your fellow preachers are starting to wonder. You're more obsessed with gay sex than any gay guy I know.
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Post by messengermicah on Dec 26, 2008 18:18:14 GMT -5
Just a dose of your own medicine Val. You know what is good for the goose is good for the gander!
Which fellow street preachers? Can you name some names?
By the way your homo tactics of trying to make me appear to be a closet homosexual or whatever will have no effect on me. I am not Tony Holland.
I think you have an obsession with fundamentalist homophobic street preachers.
That is the reason you hang around this board so much. Deep down you want to be married to a real man. A Bible thumping, fundamentalist, Christian male street preacher.
My guess is you probably became a lesbian because all the men you met were a bunch of sissies.
You admire the boldness and fearlessness of the street preachers.
I do not know of any of the street preachers on this board who are still single but I will keep my eye out and try to find you some prospects Val.
These street preachers are such a rare commodity in today's society they go fast when they are available.
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Post by valentine on Dec 27, 2008 13:29:49 GMT -5
Hey, I'm not the one who talks about homosexuality in COMPLETELY UNRELATED TOPICS when NOBODY ELSE brought it up. Nor am I the one who's made said obsession her life's mission.
Odd as it may seem to you, I spend very little time and energy with you silly people. Can you say the same about your "sinners"?
ETA: Funny you should mention that; I am all about real men and never said I wasn't. The only problem is, our definitions of what that means differ. I don't consider someone completely insecure about his sexuality a "real man." Quite frankly I think there is a lot to admire about most fundies' strength and conviction, and, if they weren't so ignorant and diametrically opposed to what I believe, there are several here who might get a date out of me (again I've never made a secret of any of this, so you comparing it to your ridiculous obsession with homosexuality is kind of laughable). Sadly, you aren't one of them; girl's gotta have some standards. ;D
ETA again: Sorry to disappoint, but not a lesbian. Bruce Wayne is far too sexy for that.
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Post by messengermicah on Dec 27, 2008 16:49:37 GMT -5
Val, you were on this thread before I was.
You probably spend more time on this board than I do (this week may be an exception because I am visiting my family and have more access to the internet than normal).
Glad to hear you are not a lesbian Val. You are still a sodomite sympathizer though.
No Val, I assumed you knew that Brother Micah is a happily married man. I am already taken Val. I never assumed you were interested in me. Why are you so presumptous to assume I was interested in you? No Val, I have already been where you are going in life.
And the names of all these so called street preachers I asked for above?
Val, you seem to consider yourself to be unbiased and fair so go ahead and look at how many posts I have made (over 1600 and counting) and see how many of them have to do with homosexuality.
It is always the same with you that have been brainwashed by the homosexuality agenda. Someone opposes you and you try to insinuate they are a closet homosexual, a homophobe, obsessed with homosexuality, etc.
Same ole tricks.
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Post by valentine on Dec 27, 2008 17:55:31 GMT -5
I was on this thread, sure, but not talking about "sodomites." And neither was anyone else. That was aaaaall you, Micah dear. You're also the one who's getting bent out of shape, rather hilariously in fact.
I'm not quite sure what you want me to respond to with all that ranting, but as I don't really see anything worthy of discussion there (nor do I really get what point you were trying to make) I won't. If I've missed something you actually want me to answer instead of just typing to see your rants in print, let me know.
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Post by tonyholland on Dec 27, 2008 22:28:48 GMT -5
Somehow, I am ok with this. Dude, this referring to yourself in the third person thing is just really odd.
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Post by messengermicah on Dec 27, 2008 23:56:12 GMT -5
Val, for some reason I thought you were a lesbian. I have been on this board for longer than you have (although you have been on here longer than most) and I thought I read posts where you claimed to be a lesbian or bisexual or something.
Since you are obsessed with street preachers and jumped in on this thread telling us to go preach in other countries (intolerance) I responded by saying the sodomites need to stop complaining about being treated unfairly in America and try to advance their political agenda in the countries under Islamic law (muslims condemn homosexuality).
The reason for my post is it is primarily the homosexual agenda in America who is out to shut down the rights of the street preacher's by passing laws against preaching against homosex sin.
Most of my posts against homosexuality are in the news and politics section.
This is rather recent and had to do with raising public awareness of Obama the homo supporter being there are many on this board who claim to be Christians who were not voting, voting third party or even the unthinkable sin of voting for Obama!!!!!!!
I challenge you to take up my challenge Val and show what percentage of Brother Micah's 1600 plus posts are related to homosexuality.
Also you have alleged that a number of my fellow street preachers think I have an obsession with homosexuality.
Who are they?
Let's try this again Val and I will make this simple.
1) Percentage of Brother Micah's 1600 plus posts relating to the subject of homosexuality since he is allegedly obsessed with this subject.
2) Name(s) (plural Val) of the other street preachers who think Brother Micah is obsessed with the subject of homosexuality.
I would even be willing to start a poll. Or better yet you can start one.
Finally Val dear, just why do you keep making insinuations that Brother Micah is bent out of shape?
I have been enjoying myself enormously in these threads!
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Post by valentine on Dec 28, 2008 10:51:10 GMT -5
Dude, did you read the thread topic before you came in here and ranted? This thread is about telling everyone else to GTFO and move to Kuwait if we hate the "Christianized" America (I do not, have never, and have never said I hated that, thank you very much; I love America and think it is, when all's said and done, the finest nation in the world). I do not seriously think you guys should move to Iran. I turned the suggestion around on the OP to demonstrate how ridiculous and pointless his statement was. Otherwise known as, I responded to the actual topic while you came in here and ranted about gay people for some unknown reason.
I don't know why I am even having to explain this to you. Is it really that hard to understand? For that matter, I don't know why I'm even bothering explaining it to you, as you'll just ignore it and take one tiny thing I said out of context so you can write another nonsensical rant about me being a lesbian. Are you starting to understand why we think you're closeted?
Quite frankly, Obama is no friend of gay rights, I did not and would not vote for him, and that is not even the main reason why I dislike him, but you calling it a "sin" to vote for him is just as ridiculous as most of your rants.
I don't know what percentage of your posts have to do with homosexuality or who thinks you're gay, and I don't care. I never have cared. Unlike you, I'm not obsessed with your sexuality. If you'd quit bringing it up over and over and over, maybe you'd lend yourself a little more credibility. The people I know who are confident with their sexuality feel no need to discuss their sexual orientation, and certainly wouldn't have gone on a multi-post tirade "defending" said sexual orientation when someone questions it. And by the way, I am one of those people, which is why I have never brought up my own sexual orientation here or gone on rants trying to convince you of it. I've corrected you politely, but if you or anyone else chooses not to believe it, I don't really care.
As to my theory that you're frothing at the mouth behind your computer screen, I suppose poor writing style can excuse you, because that's exactly what your tone conveys. I enjoy arguing with you and the rest of your buddies because you say amusing things. And if you wanted to know why I'm here, there's your answer. Pretty simple, huh?
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ETA: Oh my lord, are you "masturbation Micah" and I didn't even know it for 2.5 years?? If so, I have met you. You signed the picture of you getting punched at UNC for me.
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Post by messengermicah on Dec 28, 2008 16:08:32 GMT -5
A picture of me getting punched at UNC? Do you mean Charlotte or Chapel Hill?
There was a picture of a girl trying to steal my bible at Charlotte back in Fall of 2007 and the girl in the picture who tried to steal it was one of the students who asked me to sign it.
Of course this past September I was slapped at Chapel Hill but I do not remember a picture of me actually getting slapped in the newspaper.
Was this a newspaper picture or a picture someone else took?
Also was it this year or last year?
Moving to another topic now.
So in other words Val, even though you have made repeated allegations that I am obsessed with the issue of homosexuality, talk much about credibility, and try to pass yourself off as being someone who is interested in science, facts, etc. you are unwilling to make even a cursory investigation to see how much Brother Micah actually posts on here in all the years I have been here on homosexuality.
Also even though you have made repeated allegations that other preachers are wondering about me you can not name any names?
Well Val, since you are unable to back up allegations you have repeatedly made you lack credibility.
Yes, you are here because you are obsessed with street preachers and what we have to say.
Another thing that causes you to lack credibility Val, is above you have accused me of trying to defend my sexual orientation which I have never done.
You however, have repeatedly made allegations that I am a closet homosexual.
I simply asked you for the same thing you have asked of everyone else and that is to back up your claims.
Finally, please show me where I ever wrote that I did not believe that you were not a lesbian.
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Post by valentine on Dec 28, 2008 19:51:23 GMT -5
1.) I don't remember saying there were multiple fundies accusing you of this. Tony said it, and I was like, "wow, even your own preachers think this, dear." That was correct grammar; it's not really my problem if you misinterpreted it, but I apologize for the misunderstanding.
2.) So let me get this straight (pun oh so intended). Nothing I say is valid unless I have statistical power behind it, but you're allowed to word vomit your conjecture and vivid examples all over this forum and claim it's irrefutable scientific truth? You can give us a few isolated incidents of violence and conclude that homosexuals are violent people, but you're not obsessed with homosexuality unless I have a multivariate ANOVA with post-hoc tests and present the data in a box plot with error bars and labeled axises? Right, I'll provide statistical evidence just as soon as you do. Until then, I assume you'll be retracting every statement you've made on this board that had no scientific backing. You don't get to demand "science" when it's convenient for you any more than you'd condone people taking the Bible literally only when it's convenient for them. See how profoundly annoying it is when people make statements with no facts to back them up?
Quite frankly, this is getting a little tiresome, and I thought I'd let you know that I might not be around for awhile. I might, but don't be surprised if I'm not.
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Post by messengermicah on Dec 28, 2008 22:32:54 GMT -5
Val,
Fellow preachers is what you said. That is plural.
Tony may have preached on the street at times but I would not consider him a fellow street preacher. Tony is not willing to endure the stigma, reproach, abuse, persecution, etc. that goes with the territory of being a street preacher.
An outlaw harley bike rider does not consider yuppies who buy harley bikes and put on stick on tattooes fellow bikers.
Do the jihadist fundamentalists consider nominal muslims real muslims?
I made several posts pointing out that everytime I had preached to sodomites I have gotten the same response (hatred, intolerance, threats of violence, cursing, physical attacks, verbal attacks).
In science if every time you do an experiment you get the same results what does that mean Val?
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Post by messengermicah on Dec 28, 2008 22:36:23 GMT -5
I will help you Val. Out of 1600 plus posts I have made on this board no more than 25 have anything to do with homosexuality.
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Post by tonyholland on Dec 29, 2008 13:27:00 GMT -5
Tony may have preached on the street at times but I would not consider him a fellow street preacher. Tony is not willing to endure the stigma, reproach, abuse, persecution, etc. that goes with the territory of being a street preacher.
I know better than this, but this was a bit irritating. No, I don't do the street preaching thing anymore for family reasons.
As far as what I was willing to endure.....I'm a little perplexed at how you would know? I have preached with some people on this board, and more regularly with people not on this board anymore. I don't think any of them had any problem with what I was doing....if they did, I'm happy to recieve correction on that.
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