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Post by jonspeed on Nov 6, 2008 7:45:25 GMT -5
The Texas Revival Series presents Mark Cahill! Mark is the author of “One Thing You Can’t Do in Heaven”. He has shared the Gospel with celebrities like Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan, Vanilla Ice, and Charles Barkley. Join us for an evening of evangelistic motivation in Dallas, TX on Saturday December 6th! Registration is FREE at www.TexasRevivalSeries.comSchedule:Saturday, December 6th (City Church International in Dallas, TX)5-6PM: Session #1 6-7PM: Session #2 Sunday, December 7th:10:00AM: Mark Cahill speaks at City Church International worship service 6:00PM: Mark speaks at First Baptist Church Justin in the evening service. Websites:www.citychurchintl.orgwww.fbcjustin.orgBlessings, Jon
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streetfishing
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Post by streetfishing on Nov 6, 2008 9:59:00 GMT -5
I have had the honor of meeting and hearing Mark Cahill twice here in Florida. I you get the chance to hear him.... GO.... you will not be disapointed..... Jim
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Post by John McGlone on Nov 10, 2008 22:56:07 GMT -5
Jon, I was wondering why you have joined the 'heretics' board? Aren't you concerned someone might be 'lurking' in the background and report you to some of the more orthodox boards where they ban saints and sinners are not allowed? Well, I guess 4 posts in 1.5 years they would give you a lighter charge.
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Post by jonspeed on Nov 26, 2008 9:18:16 GMT -5
John,
I figured if you could post on other boards then there wouldn't be any problem with me posting here. But if I'm wrong, let me know and I'll remove myself.
Jon
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Post by joemccowan on Nov 26, 2008 10:54:08 GMT -5
I wouldn't consider Calvinist/Reformed boards to be "more orthodox" but rather uniformly "heterodox". Reformed theology is a system of belief unified through its protest of Roman Catholicism, not a commitment to the orthodox positions of the Early Church. The Reformed crowd calling outsiders "heretics" is about as valid as the Roman Catholics calling the Reformers heretics. Both are clearly outside of orthodoxy (as understood in the first 200 - 300yrs of the faith).
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Post by Kerrigan on Nov 26, 2008 12:41:47 GMT -5
Jon, I don't think it is a matter of whether you are "allowed" to be on this message board or not. The question is, if you think that most of us are "heretics", why do you come over here to announce your upcoming events? Do you really want us to come to them? I mean, would Jesse, I or John be allowed to come to one of your evangelism bootcamps or to the Super Bowl outreach? These are honest questions brother. The only message board that John is on and you are on is the SOBE one. Jesse is on no other message board that you are on...
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Post by Jesse Morrell on Nov 26, 2008 12:44:58 GMT -5
That is a good question.
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Post by jsides on Nov 26, 2008 14:49:56 GMT -5
I can not speak for Jon however as I see it this forum is open to all is it not. How much of our view of soteriology etc. needs to line up with each other. Kelly and John Mcglone by your own admission you do not have a definitive view on open theism while Jesses does should that topic alone seperate you guys. I may not have a definative view in regards to eschatology but I dont allow that to hinder me from coming together in a meeting. The main question I think needs to be asked what should we divide on and what should we see as secondary issues. If you believe justification is by faith alone and salvation cannot be earned but good works are only a byproduct of salvation and not a means or help to it. By all means you would be welcome as a brother however if not you are welcome to come so you may hear the Gospel and believe.
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Post by Kerrigan on Nov 26, 2008 17:50:50 GMT -5
jsides, once again, my name is NOT Kelly. My name is Kerrigan. I don't think you understand the situation. We are NOT the ones wanting to divide here or kick Jon off of the forum. Did you even read my post? We are trying to hold Jon consistent to what he has said in the past on other message boards. We have never called him a heretic, but he has definitely called some of us heretics or said that we are outside of orthodoxy. Maybe you should be asking him some of the questions that you just asked us. He's definitely NOT as ecumenical as you are...
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Post by jonspeed on Nov 26, 2008 18:38:46 GMT -5
Kerrigan,
To answer your question, you'd be more than welcome to attend the Cahill event. Everyone is welcome to attend an open training\teaching event.
And, as is obvious, you guys know where I stand on doctrinal issues and so if you would like to remove me from the MB or even simply ask that I remove myself, I'm happy to. All you have to do is ask. I won't bear any ill will towards you for it if you feel I shouldn't post here. Just let me know.
Obviously, I'm using your MB for shameless promotion of an event which might be of interest to those who are into evangelism. If I'm off limits, so be it. It's your call.
Blessings,
Jon
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jsides
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Post by jsides on Nov 26, 2008 18:43:11 GMT -5
Sorry about the name Im not perfect I mean a follower of Finney oops. I do understand the situation why should Jon or myself or anyone want to evangelize together if they do not have agreement on the basics of Christianty. Jesse has said he believed John Calvin went to hell and since I believe most of what Calvin taught am I in danger. What makes someone a heretic ? I know Jon well he actually may be more ecumenical than Iam but thats not the issue . By the topics I have read it would imply that you do not believe Justification is by faith alone. If I affirm the acrostic tulip by your standard am I a heretic? It is my belief even if you do not affirm it while I believe you would be wrong it does not mean u are a heretic I would need to evalueate the other things you claim.
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Post by Jesse Morrell on Nov 26, 2008 19:14:29 GMT -5
Jon,
You are more then welcome on the boards. I would greatly encourage you to engage in some of the theological discussions.
And thanks for the invite to the Mark Cahill event. Just don't promote any event that we (Kerrigan, John, myself) would not be allowed to or welcomed at.
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Post by Kerrigan on Nov 26, 2008 22:39:20 GMT -5
Sorry about the name Im not perfect I mean a follower of Finney oops. I do understand the situation why should Jon or myself or anyone want to evangelize together if they do not have agreement on the basics of Christianty. Jesse has said he believed John Calvin went to hell and since I believe most of what Calvin taught am I in danger. What makes someone a heretic ? I know Jon well he actually may be more ecumenical than Iam but thats not the issue . By the topics I have read it would imply that you do not believe Justification is by faith alone. If I affirm the acrostic tulip by your standard am I a heretic? It is my belief even if you do not affirm it while I believe you would be wrong it does not mean u are a heretic I would need to evalueate the other things you claim. jsides, you obviously know nothing about me. The perfection that I believe in isn't intellectual perfection anyway. I believe in moral perfection. And what makes you think that I follow Finney? I've only read one of his books, his autobiography. Besides, he believed in Perseverance of the Saints from what I have heard and I strongly disagree with him on that. If you want to start a post on what makes someone a heretic or where the line is drawn, then go for it in the Doctrine and Theology section. If you want to know what I believe, then feel free to check out my Statement of Faith.
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jsides
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Post by jsides on Nov 26, 2008 23:25:06 GMT -5
Obviously I do know something about you as you list information about yourself from your own site. If you are impyling the use of semantics about perfection it was an obvious jest. The question of when to divide or when to fellowship together could depend on the situation at hand and another thing to ask is Is there Doctrinal Statement consistent.
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Post by Kerrigan on Nov 26, 2008 23:53:01 GMT -5
Yeah well, if you do know about me, then why did you suggest that I was a follower of Finney? You definitely did not find that on my website...
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Post by joeldad on Nov 27, 2008 12:05:33 GMT -5
My wife and I are currently planning on attending the Mark Cahill event in Dallas.
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Post by Jesse Morrell on Nov 27, 2008 13:19:12 GMT -5
Mark Cahill is a great speaker and wonderful author. It is definitely worth going to hear him.
On a personal note, Mark is a great individual with a solid moral character. He has been a financial blessing to Open Air Outreach over the years. His generosity to us shows us his heart for the lost. I would encourage everyone, who can make it, to go hear him speak.
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Post by joeldad on Dec 8, 2008 15:26:05 GMT -5
My wife and I attended the Mark Cahill event in Dallas on Saturday evening. We both found it to be a very encouraging message. But even more than that, it was wonderfully encouraging to see so many people hitting the streets to share the Gospel with the lost near our home area. Kali commented that she thought Mark's message was the best "live" message she'd heard in years. Sadly, messages on evangelism and reaching the lost are so hard to come by in our experience. We went to the West End area after Mark's talk, and the two of us carried Gospel signage as we gave out tracts and had many good conversations with sinners, the lukewarm, and other believers. At the DART (public transit) station, the police said that we were on private property and had to leave immediately. One of the ministers there (Darryl Rundus) took down their information, and I believe was contacting some Christian attorneys about the matter. The cops said that we weren't allowed to stand around the transit area, nor do anything to cause crowds to develop. I asked him what law we were breaking by being there, and he told me that the DART system is "private property". Yeah, right. The same cop was overheard by Darryl saying to the other cops how he'd like to just "arrest them all now" (referring to us). Sad. My wife's sign and my banner proved to be a source of boldness and encouragement to the other Christians on the street doing ministry. Every other Christian doing outreach that commented on our signs said how it really encouraged them to be more bold. Or how awesome they thought it was that we were not ashamed to proclaim the Gospel that way. A few people asked where they could get themselves signs like ours to use. The pastors of the church where the event was held also commented on how he really liked the sign and banner and was also greatly encouraged to see us out there. Cab drivers and other motorists would even slow down or sit at the stop signs extra long to read our signs. Due to the cold weather, there was barely anyone outdoors. At times, we couldn't find any sinners to talk to, since the Christians at the outreach probably outnumbered the other people on the street. Until Saturday night, I had only done local street ministry by myself. This was my wife's first time to really join me in an outreach since we've been married. She was a great source of strength and encouragement. We had a great time! Here are some pics: My wife wearing a sign for the first time in her life: The two of us out doing street ministry together for the first time:
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Post by atira on Dec 8, 2008 15:37:21 GMT -5
Hi everyone, this is Kali, Joel's lucky wife! I don't have much more to add to Joel's post except to say that it really was a great event (both the event and the ministry). I would HIGHLY recommend you go hear Mark Cahill if he speaks in your area. He would appeal to someone with any Christian theological background; there were people who were Calvinists there and those, like myself, who were not. However, all of us were encouraged to spread the Gospel at all time with boldness and challenged to live for Christ fully!
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Post by Jesse Morrell on Dec 8, 2008 16:28:06 GMT -5
I praise God that the two of you are doing evangelism as a couple. I am very encouraged by this report. Keep up the great work!
(The signs look great!)
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Post by Kerrigan on Dec 9, 2008 9:33:32 GMT -5
Praise the Lord! Great report! Thanks for sharing and way to get out on the streets Kali!
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Post by revomin on Dec 9, 2008 22:10:46 GMT -5
Praise the lord! You look like a great team!
Keep up the work for Jesus!
Great Banner!
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