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Post by tonyholland on Dec 11, 2008 18:04:54 GMT -5
Ouch...... MCFADDEN: Is it literally true, the Bible? BUSH: You know. Probably not ... No, I'm not a literalist, but I think you can learn a lot from it, but I do think that the New Testament, for example is ... has got ... You know, the important lesson is "God sent a son." MCFADDEN: So, you can read the Bible... BUSH: That God in the flesh, that mankind can understand there is a God who is full of grace and that nothing you can do to earn his love. His love is a gift and that in order to draw closer to God and in order to express your appreciation for that love is why you change your behavior. MCFADDEN: So, you can read the Bible and not take it literally. I mean you can -- it's not inconsistent to love the Bible and believe in evolution, say. BUSH: Yeah, I mean, I do. I mean, evolution is an interesting subject. I happen to believe that evolution doesn't fully explain the mystery of life and ... MCFADDEN: But do you believe in it? BUSH: That God created the world, I do, yeah. MCFADDEN: But what about ... BUSH: Well, I think you can have both. I think evolution can -- you're getting me way out of my lane here. I'm just a simple president. But it's, I think that God created the Earth, created the world; I think the creation of the world is so mysterious it requires something as large as an almighty, and I don't think it's incompatible with the scientific proof that there is evolution. abcnews.go.com/Nightline/Politics/Story?id=6418908&page=2
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Post by Jesse Morrell on Dec 11, 2008 18:46:13 GMT -5
Barak Obama vs. Religion:
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Post by benjoseph on Dec 11, 2008 20:40:28 GMT -5
"We don't hear what Abraham hears. We don't see what Abraham sees." God please have mercy on this country.
I should start praying for President Elect Barak Obama daily. This sounds like serious social reprogramming stuff.
Good for President Bush though!
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Post by Kureji on Dec 12, 2008 17:03:41 GMT -5
Obama just got quite a few points of respect from me for that speech. Thanks for sharing it Jesse. Now I wish I would have voted and that I would have voted for him.
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Post by fs on Dec 12, 2008 19:45:51 GMT -5
You will know a Christian by hsi fruits and sadly George Bush may claim to be a Christian but a good number of his actions have been far from God.
Anyone can say they are a Christian and that does not really make them one. Trust me on this one . I have seen this happen, real close to home.
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Post by messengermicah on Dec 17, 2008 20:39:28 GMT -5
Who has ever said George Bush was a Christian?
A liberator of thousands of muslims under a cruel dictatorship? Yes!
A president with some testicular fortitude? Yes!
A president who has managed to keep this country safe since 9-11? Yes!
Barack Hussein Obama is none of the above.
A homo supporter? Yes!
A baby murderer? Yes!
A racist? Yes!
A socialist? Yes!
A hater of America? Yes!
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Post by praiseforaids on Dec 22, 2008 19:25:17 GMT -5
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how is President Bush a socialist again? Please back up statements. Also , how is he a hater of America?
I expect similar logic would suggest anyone is a "hater" of America. Many would argue our fellow open air preachers are haters - because we stand for freedom of speech, something many don't understand.
Respect our president.
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Post by messengermicah on Dec 22, 2008 22:52:15 GMT -5
I was not talking about Bush. I was talking about Obamanation.
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Post by fs on Mar 4, 2009 22:36:48 GMT -5
President Bush was the worst thing that ever happened to America and anyone who believes him to be a true Christian has surely been deceived. If you believe that about him I have beachfront property to sell you in the desert. I believed this for a while about him,. Palin and McCain and too late I woke up.
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Post by Rhema Seeker (Guy) on Mar 5, 2009 7:55:54 GMT -5
You will know a Christian by hsi fruits and sadly George Bush may claim to be a Christian but a good number of his actions have been far from God. Anyone can say they are a Christian and that does not really make them one. Trust me on this one . I have seen this happen, real close to home. FS, Bush had more FRUITS than I see in you. You side with baby killers and the such. YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN. You are one of those sinners who claim that God loves you and does not make you accountable for any thing you do or stand for. GET SAVED; I fear for your soul. If you do not repent, you will go to hell. Someone has lied to you FS. You need JESUS and you need to repent from your sins. YOU ARE A FALSE CONVERT. I fear that you are one of those that Jesus warns in the day of JUDGMENT will say DEPART FROM ME YE WORKER OF INIQUITY, FOR I NEVER KNEW YE. I fear for you, repent now. As far as Bush being Christian; I really do not know, But he has more FRUIT than you. YOU ARE FAR FROM BEING CHRISTIAN, or Christ LIKE, or a FOLLOWER OF CHRIST. You are DECEIVED. Repent now and believe on the TRUTH.
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Post by Melmoth on Mar 5, 2009 10:30:45 GMT -5
Rhema, I'm going to assume you know this already, but I'll say it anyway because you don't look like you know it.
That whole accusing and 'get saved' bit really kills your message. Justify it how you will, most will decide to listen to you based on how you say things more than what you say.
Also, your CAPS LOCK key seems to be on the fritz, just a slight bit. Might want to get that looked at, it's probably pretty cheap to fix.
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Post by fs on Mar 5, 2009 18:13:13 GMT -5
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Post by Rhema Seeker (Guy) on Mar 5, 2009 19:00:24 GMT -5
And I am supposed to care what you think, Rhema, because...... Because I have Christ love for you. I do not want you to burn in everlasting fire. If I did not care for you, I would not bother to respond this way. But because I know that you are deceievd in believeing you are saved, I am grieved deep within. I blame more of the preachers and pastors that have tickled your ears in speaking to you smooth words instead of telling you the TRUTH that you must REPENT from all your sins before the BLOOD of CHRIST is applied to your account. That the GOD OF THE BIBLE expects you to walk in all HOLINESS being led by HIS HOLY SPIRIT and not the flesh for you to be deemed as a Son of HIS. Otherwise you are a bastard, without a HOLY FATHER. Isaiah 30:9-11, "That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD: Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits: Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us."
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Post by fs on Mar 5, 2009 19:08:28 GMT -5
Take the log out of your own eye before looking at specks in mine and also for a hard working man YOU sure are on the board all he time. My salvation is between me and jesus and I am not accountable to you.
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Post by Rhema Seeker (Guy) on Mar 5, 2009 19:18:53 GMT -5
Take the log out of your own eye before looking at specks in mine and also for a hard working man YOU sure are on the board all he time. My salvation is between me and jesus and I am not accountable to you. I try posting on here before I leave for work in morning, then for my lunch break and then after work. I have removed the log out of my eye, that is why I am trying to help you. If you see any speck in mine or log in mine, then let me know what it is. You preach to sinners don't you. So why do you think I should not preach to you? What gives you the right to preach to one who is a sinner? I am not condemning you. I am WARNING you of the JUDGMENT that one day will come your way. Please repent.
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Post by fs on Mar 5, 2009 19:30:05 GMT -5
If only you did not make so many assumptions. Read a few of your earlier posts. Too much assumption with knowing is the main flaw of many people on this board.
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Post by Rhema Seeker (Guy) on Mar 5, 2009 19:46:26 GMT -5
If only you did not make so many assumptions. Read a few of your earlier posts. Too much assumption with knowing is the main flaw of many people on this board. And you have not made one assumption after another on these boards concerning many? I beg you differ. This is the reason that I was so urgent to post today concerning you. Because of your assumptions on others.
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Post by fs on Mar 5, 2009 20:06:28 GMT -5
Most of my assumptions have been painfully correct!
I am through arguing this.
Go pray for someone else.
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