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Post by dmatic on Feb 21, 2009 13:22:40 GMT -5
I didn't say, "You're a homo....." I was guessing that he was a homo.... similar to what Jesse said in "Bigfoot attacks a preacher".... Most homo's are easily offended like this guy. I would apologize but I have nothing to apologize for. Bold for Christ - You're from Hillsboro? I live in Clermont county Well, you actually wrote: You didn't ask, you insulted, and falsely accused. The punishment for false witnessing is that the false accuser suffers the puinshment that would have been doled out to the accused had the accusation been correct. Since your accusation was false, it would appear that your punishment would be death. So, you declare that you haven't anything to apologize for....?> I would reconsider that denial if I were you friend. Maybe the LORD will have mercy. Peace, dmatic
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Post by boldforchrist on Feb 21, 2009 15:01:30 GMT -5
dmatic! what is going on here man? Are you saying biblegeek should be put to death? What if I followed you around for a few days, would you be perfect in all you say and do and think? I bet I could call you out on many things you do! Be careful how you threaten people, even on the net my brother. You are like the rest of us here, you are not perfect, you are not all knowing, maybe you should not be so fast to condemn a fellow brother in Christ. I am far from perfect, I know one thing and that is I do not Know enough about anything! But I am starting to get a clear picture of what goes on here on this board and that is a bunch of Christians who cut each other up for no other reason than to make themselves look smart.
How about we are start discussing doctrine? How about we discuss ways to lead others to Christ? How about we discuss anything that IS about God and not about how smart we all are?
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Post by Josh Parsley on Feb 21, 2009 15:33:33 GMT -5
With that kind of rantings and hate, i'll never become an atheist! I may have to use that line sometime.
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Post by biblegeek on Feb 21, 2009 18:11:29 GMT -5
ahhhh! I had a great response for the Mary worshiper. Dealing with these people is what makes this fun. Anyhew.... yes.... we don't make it out to Hillsboro very often. When are you planning on coming West?
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Post by biblegeek on Feb 22, 2009 16:02:39 GMT -5
I didn't say, "You're a homo....." I was guessing that he was a homo.... similar to what Jesse said in "Bigfoot attacks a preacher".... Most homo's are easily offended like this guy. I would apologize but I have nothing to apologize for. Bold for Christ - You're from Hillsboro? I live in Clermont county Well, you actually wrote: You didn't ask, you insulted, and falsely accused. The punishment for false witnessing is that the false accuser suffers the puinshment that would have been doled out to the accused had the accusation been correct. Since your accusation was false, it would appear that your punishment would be death. So, you declare that you haven't anything to apologize for....?> I would reconsider that denial if I were you friend. Maybe the LORD will have mercy. Peace, dmatic "You must be a catholic". "You must be a democrat." "You must be a sinner." These statements don't mean that I know what you are. I could be wrong. But for someone to say, like Jesse Morrell, "you must be a homo..." doesn't mean that we know. It's more of a question / statement. "You must be Barak Obama." "No... I'm Rev. Creflow Dollar...." Does this make the guy a liar for making that statement? No. Anyhow.... if you have a problem with that statement, then you have a problem with the person that allows you to post on this board because I'm quoting Jesse (when he got tackled by big-foot). Furthermore, you probably have a problem with Jesus calling the pharisees a 'brood of vipers.' Anyhow... I don't want to fight with you.... this is moronic. I wasn't even speaking to you. Are you a homo... is that why you are offended??? Maybe that's it....??
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Post by dmatic on Feb 23, 2009 16:05:26 GMT -5
biblegeek, you wrote:
My problem is with your false accusation. You deny that it was an accusation.
My warning to you was that God does not take the matter of falsly accusing someone lightly. His Law declares that those who do so, will be punished with the same punishment that the one who was falsly accused would have received!
what I am also saying is that your method of ad hominum attack, rather than pointing out the error in someone's argument needs work. Reverting to "You must be a homo" is childish and evil. See what it leads too? Now you're falsely accusing me too!
What you need to do is see that you were wrong to make a stupid statement like you did, and apologize for it!
Peace, dmatic
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Post by biblegeek on Feb 23, 2009 22:24:23 GMT -5
biblegeek, you wrote: My problem is with your false accusation. You deny that it was an accusation. My warning to you was that God does not take the matter of falsly accusing someone lightly. His Law declares that those who do so, will be punished with the same punishment that the one who was falsly accused would have received! what I am also saying is that your method of ad hominum attack, rather than pointing out the error in someone's argument needs work. Reverting to "You must be a homo" is childish and evil. See what it leads too? Now you're falsely accusing me too! What you need to do is see that you were wrong to make a stupid statement like you did, and apologize for it! Peace, dmatic You're falsely accusing me so stop being a hypocrite... www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKXlzFTfV7QSee 9:42 of this video - I'm quoting Jesse. If you have a problem with me, you have a problem with Jesse so take it up with him. This is verging on ridiculous. Stop falsely accusing me for falsely accusing someone. I'm beginning to wonder if you're a liberal- democrat-calvinist.
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Post by dmatic on Feb 24, 2009 17:13:10 GMT -5
So, biblegeek, you think there is nothing wrong with, in the course of a discussion, to all of a sudden blurt out "You must be a homo!"?
We have much work to do. God help us!
You don't take criticism very well do you?
Peace, dmatic
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Post by biblegeek on Feb 24, 2009 20:02:34 GMT -5
actually I do take criticism very well, if it's warranted. I want to please my Lord so anything I can do to grow nearer to Him is ok with me!
dmatic - let's move on, brother. This is fruitless conversation. Let's edify one another in the faith rather than tare each other down. If you really feel that I did something wrong, pray for me. I don't see it the same way you do, obviously. So, take it to the Father to show me if I did something wrong. If I'm one of His and my heart's intention was wrong, He'll show it to me.
Just curious, how long have you been a Christian? Are you a preacher? Do you street-preach?
ps. if you insist on continuing this fruitless dialogue, this will be my last response.
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Post by dmatic on Feb 25, 2009 12:54:29 GMT -5
actually I do take criticism very well, if it's warranted. I want to please my Lord so anything I can do to grow nearer to Him is ok with me! dmatic - let's move on, brother. This is fruitless conversation. Let's edify one another in the faith rather than tare each other down. If you really feel that I did something wrong, pray for me. I don't see it the same way you do, obviously. So, take it to the Father to show me if I did something wrong. If I'm one of His and my heart's intention was wrong, He'll show it to me. Just curious, how long have you been a Christian? Are you a preacher? Do you street-preach? ps. if you insist on continuing this fruitless dialogue, this will be my last response. It will only be fruitless if we do not continue. Whether there will be good, or bad, fruit is debateable, however. I know not whether you are a "good" tree, or an "evil" one. It is good that you, at least, claim to want to please your Lord. As I read your conversation and came to your statement: "You must be a homo", I wondered what kind of relationship you had with Y'Shua, if any. Your moniker was biblegeek, but I'm not sure what that implies, so I thought to challenge your false statement, to see how you would react, and hopefully, to challenge you to grow. Most people don't like to be rebuked, so I understood your peturbness. You wrote, in defense of using the form "You must be a homo": "These statements don't mean that I know what you are. I could be wrong." The guy you were trying to influence, denied your charge, I think, but you did not ever confess to being wrong. I thought it sounded like you were calling the guy a homo, because he must have been acting in a certain way that you assume homos act? So, it just appeared to me that you cared not a wit for the guy you were "debating", but simply resorted to calling him a name, and insulting him, in an attempt to win your argument, out of frustration, or whatever. Or to try to make yourself look good in front of the rest of us that were following along in your discussion. I don't know. Maybe it would help if you simply explained why you resorted to the name-calling. Do you even know? What was it, within you, that triggered that kind of response? You wrote: I believe He directed me to confront you. I'm still learning how to do this, but I do want you to do what is right in His eyes. I saw your response as unloving, and when I see that in one who claims to Love God, I wonder if they see it too. How can we claim to love God, whom we can't see, if we don't love those whom we can? When we see a brother in a sin, we should tell him in a spirit of meekness or gentleness. My confrontation may not have been as meek as it should have been, I don't know, yet. Meekness often has a lot to do with teachability. I do want to learn how to approach another in love. Sometimes, it seems not to come across as loving when we are being challenged with an error. I'll re-read my posts to see if I can learn how better to approach someone, to get a wiser response than I got from you. A wise man heeds instruction, and listens to rebuke, because he knows it to be the path of life. The fool chafes at admonition because he never thinks he does anything wrong. Every way of his is right in his own eyes. By showing you briefly what God's Law says about false accusation, I had hoped that you would respond by repenting, in respect of Him. I challenged you, hopefully, because I love Him, and want you to please Him. And, hopefully, because I love you too, and want you to receive the blessings of "fearing" Him too. If I missed God's direction for me, I apologize, and ask you to forgive me for intruding. Rebuking a fool only gets hatred to oneself you know. I had hoped you weren't foolish. To answer your question about the length of time of my Christianity....I can say...not near long enough. I have much to learn! I do, however, try to minister to, and am ministered to by, prisoners at the State Penitentiary, every other week. I've been involved with jail and prison ministry for 14 years. Peace, dmatic
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Post by dmatic on Feb 25, 2009 13:09:58 GMT -5
dmatic! what is going on here man? Are you saying biblegeek should be put to death? What if I followed you around for a few days, would you be perfect in all you say and do and think? I bet I could call you out on many things you do! Be careful how you threaten people, even on the net my brother. You are like the rest of us here, you are not perfect, you are not all knowing, maybe you should not be so fast to condemn a fellow brother in Christ. I am far from perfect, I know one thing and that is I do not Know enough about anything! But I am starting to get a clear picture of what goes on here on this board and that is a bunch of Christians who cut each other up for no other reason than to make themselves look smart. How about we are start discussing doctrine? How about we discuss ways to lead others to Christ? How about we discuss anything that IS about God and not about how smart we all are? While re-reading my posts, I saw this one by boldforChrist. I don't know if he's still here, but I apologize for not responding to your questions. I am not saying that biblegeek should be put to death. I am saying that he should repent of falsely accusing "burning now". Sadly, you wouldn't need to follow me around for more than a few minutes...to see how far from perfect I am. If you are saying that I should clean out the log in my own eye first, so as to see clearly to help another remove the speck out of his, I agree with you! I should do so. However, I felt the leading of God to confront biblegeek, even though I am imperfect! Are you saying that one needs to be sinless before confronting another? Obviously it would help! But, it seems too much like the tolerance teaching to me. Sorry. Since Jesus says that we will give an account for every idle word....I just thought it to be loving to confront biblegeek now, instead of having him go through life thinking it was OK with the Father to talk to people like he did! Can I tolerate his false accusation? Of course! But, can he tolerate the results of making false statments? Only God knows. Hope that helps. Peace, dmatic
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Post by boldforchrist on Feb 25, 2009 18:59:20 GMT -5
Thanks for getting back to me on this. I see your point and I agree with you. I just get upset when I see so many people on here cutting on each other. You do make a good point in that it is better for one to correct another now instead of that person answering for it later, which we all will do. I have been working on this beam in my eye for awile now, I fear I may never get it out completley. But I also believe that, part of our repenting is to be done on our own, in that we will mess up and we need to catch ourselves and repent on our own, not always being punished for what we do, we all let our tempers get the best of us at times. I know I will be repenting until the day I die. A lot of that is me sticking my foot in my mouth and then shortly there after seeing the errors of my ways and going to the Father in prayer with a repenting heart. That is kinda what I was attempting to say. Thanks Brother
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Post by dmatic on Feb 26, 2009 17:15:07 GMT -5
And you said it wonderfully brother! Thank you.
Peace, dmatic
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