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Post by rescuedbymary06 on Feb 18, 2009 17:50:07 GMT -5
Have any of you from this board studied Fr. Padre Pio and his
connection to Garabandal, Spain?
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Post by biblegeek on Feb 19, 2009 2:41:46 GMT -5
He's probably an idolatrous Mary worshiper. Have you studied Alberto Rivera? You need to get some real insight on what the catholic church is really about
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Post by debonnaire on Feb 19, 2009 14:14:55 GMT -5
have been told that in Garabandal they make very good paellas,
but horrible spaghetti bolognese ...
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Post by rescuedbymary06 on Feb 19, 2009 14:31:21 GMT -5
The Chick tracks are comic books for children in adult bodies.
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Post by dmatic on Feb 19, 2009 14:47:07 GMT -5
Have any of you from this board studied Fr. Padre Pio and his connection to Garabandal, Spain? No, Can you enlighten us? Peace, dmatic
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Post by rescuedbymary06 on Feb 19, 2009 17:58:13 GMT -5
TESTIMONY of Joey Lomangino
Of all the testimonies of Padre Pio and Garabandal, the one that was to have the greatest impact on the Garabandal movement was that of Joey Lomangino, founder of the Workers of Our Lady of Mount Carmel. In fact, it was only because of Padre Pio that Joey became involved in Garabandal.
In 1947, Joey was a competent young man of 16 who helped his father on his truck route of delivering ice and coal in the Bay Ridge section of Brooklyn, New York. On June 27 of that year, he noticed one of the truck tires needed air. He took the tire off the truck and tolled it a few blocks to a gas station. As he knelt down putting air in the tire, it exploded, propelling the rim directly into his face. Unconscious and bleeding from the deep three- inch gash, he was rushed to the hospital where he remained in a coma until the following month. Then on July 16, feast of Our Lady of Mt. Carmel, he regained consciousness to the blindness he has know ever since. His optic and olfactory nerves had been severed. Not only was he blind but also he had no sense of smell. And there was no cure, at least not from a human point of view.
After attending the New York Institute for the Blind and one year at St. John’s University, Joey, along with three of his brothers, was given the opportunity to revive a defunct sanitation company in Farmingdale, Long Island, New York. They worked hard and the company came back to life, eventually developing into a thriving business.
By 1961, Joey was financially secure but all the preoccupations of running the business had worn him out. He needed some time off so his doctor suggested he take a vacation. He decided to go to Europe with his sister, Frances, and cousin, Carl. The last stop on their intinerary was a visit to Uncle Frank in Bari, southern Italy.
Joey was not practicing his religion very much in those days so when his uncle suggested they take a ride to see Padre Pio at San Giovanni Rotondo- Joey wasn’t interested. It was actually Joey’s mother, Sophie, who had written to her brother, Frank, asking him to take Joey to see Padre Pio, and Frank wasn’t about to let his sister down. He insisted, and Joey, realizing the hospitality he was being given by his uncle, couldn’t very well refuse.
At three o’clock in the morning, Joey was suddenly awakened from a deep sleep. It was Uncle Frank. “Get up! We have to be there for the 5:00a.m. Mass.” “What? Five o’clock mass? Joey could hardly believe it but managed to get dressed and piled into the car with his uncle, sister, and cousin for the long drive to San Giovanni.
He didn’t understand much of the Latin coming from the loudspeakers in the church as Padre Pio said the Mass but he sensed something special in the priest’s voice. He couldn’t put his finger on it but there was definitely something there.
After the Mass, Joey’s uncle took him upstairs to a large room through which the Padre Pio always passed. This room was usually filled with men, after the morning Mass, who were there to receive Padre Pio’s blessing as he passed through their midst. Joey and his uncle were among the last ones to enter the room and stood at the back, just inside the door. Joey recounts his experience.
As Padre Pio came into the room we all knelt down to receive his blessing. Padre Pio was coming from the left hand side of the room across the front. All of a sudden I heard the moving of knees and all; I didn’t know what was going on. Padre Pio had his arms around me and started kissing me on the forehead. He said, “Joey, I am so happy to see you.” When my uncle told me it was Padre Pio embracing me, I was at a loss for words because I was almost the last one in the room and nobody knew I was going to be there, not even myself!
Joey was deeply impressed. How did Padre Pio know his name? He was dumbfounded and knew he had to go back again.
He was not able to return in 1962 but the following year, he and his friend, Mario Covais, planned the trip. They would spend part of their vacation at San Giovanni and the rest in a small Spanish mountain village called San Sebastian de Garabandal where Our Lady was reported to be appearing. Going to Garabandal was Mario’s idea.
One of the things people did when they went to San Giovanni was go to confession to Padre Pio, so Joey had his name added to the list. He could never have imagined what was about to happen to him when his turn came.
I went into the confessional, and knelt down on the kneeling bench. Padre Pio was sitting right in front of me. When he took me by the hand I was shocked because I thought of the American confessional with the panel. [Editor’s note: Joey is referring to the kind of confessional where the penitent is separated from the confessor priest by a screen.]
As I knelt there with Padre Pio holding onto my hand, he said to me in Italian, “Joey, confess yourself.” To be very honest with you , I was embarrassed because I wasn’t leading the right life. I was flabbergasted and did not know just what to say. So Padre Pio took me by the hand again and said, “Confess yourself.” And again, I just found it very difficult to speak to him. Then in perfect English he said to me, “Joey, do you remember the sins you committed?” And in perfect English he said to me, “Joey, do you remember when you were in a bar with a woman named Barbara, do you remember the sins you committed?” And in perfect English he went right down the line telling me the people I was with, the places I was at and the sins I committed. Of course, I was perspiring, but I had the grace through God to realize that if I had to endure all that to get back to being happy, it was worth it. I really believed that Father Pio could help me.
When he came to the bottom of all of my sins, and it felt to me like a thousand years, he said in Italian, “Are you sorry?” And I said, “Yes I am, Padre.” Then as he gave me absolution for my sins my eyes started to roll in my head. I started to rub my eyes and my head kept going around and around. Then all of a sudden, my mind became very clear. Padre Pio put his stigmatized hand to my lips and I kissed the stigmata. Then he gave me a little smack on the face and said in Italian, “Joey, a little patience and a little courage and you’re going to be all right.” I was 33 years old and I felt I was 16. I had a firm purpose of amendment; I was sorry for all the sins I committed in my life. I felt so good and clean that I didn’t want to get involved with anybody because I was afraid that just by talking, I was going to lose the grace I received.
But there was still more in store for Joey Lomangino on this fateful trip. After Mass on one of the following mornings, he again found himself in the large room where he had first encountered Padre Pio in 1961. He knelt with the other men to receive the Padre’s blessing as he passed by.
When I had my injury in 1947, I not only lost my eyes but I lost my sense of smell. So when I knelt down to receive Padre Pio’s blessing, and got the fragrance of roses that came from the wounds in his hands, I was startled and went against the wall with my arms up to protect myself; I didn’t know what it was. Padre Pio pulled down my hand and said in Italian, “Joey, don’t be afraid.” He then touched me on the bridge of my nose and my sense of smell was restored to me after being without it from the day of my accident in June 1947, which was 16 years.
Joey was overwhelmed with peace and joy and had no desire to leave San Giovanni. So when Mario reminded him of their agreement to spend part of their vacation in Garabandal, Joey hesitated.
“Mario, how do we know it’s true? Maybe it’s not a true apparition; maybe it’s a trick of the devil to make me lose the graces I just received. Let’s go ask Padre Pio.” So Mario said, “OK.” Of course, we were always given a wonderful reception by the priests at Padre Pio’s so when I asked if it would be OK to speak to Padre Pio the priest said, “Oh, yes, Joe.”
We made arrangements to come back again that same day and greeted Padre Pio in the cloister. When we knelt down, we said to him, “Padre Pio, is it true that the Virgin is appearing to the four girls of Garabandal?” And he said, “Yes.” We said, “Padre Pio, should we go there? He said, “Yes, why not?” And that’s how it happened. Because I received the assurance from Padre Pio that the Virgin was appearing and that he permitted me to go, then I wasn’t afraid and I went.
The rest of Joey’s story is now history, “Joey’s Story,” and it all came about through the intercession of Padre Pio.
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Post by biblegeek on Feb 19, 2009 17:58:44 GMT -5
I didn't mention Jack Chic. There are numerous articles, books and people out there that attest that Alberto's claims are 100% true. Of course the catholic church is going to try to discredit someone that exposes them for who they are. That's been their MO forever.
During the Council of Latern held in AD 1215, all "heretics" - Jews and Protestants - were condemned to death. This decree has never been repealed.... "Roman Catholics have not only the right, but it is their duty, to kill heretics."
"We excommunicate and anathematize every heresy that exalts itself against the holy and orthodox Catholic faith, condemning all heretics, by whatever name they may be known, for though their faces differ, they are tied together by their tails. Such as are condemned are to be delivered over to the existing secular powers to receive due punishment."
Let's all run down to our local catholic church and join up... right? Wake up idolaters. You are a member of the great whore!
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Post by burningnow on Feb 19, 2009 18:01:40 GMT -5
Amazing. I can't believe that there is so much infighting in Christianity. Can't you guys just get along or do you have this desire to have your opinion be the only one that should be believed?
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Post by biblegeek on Feb 19, 2009 18:14:52 GMT -5
catholics aren't Christians. They are idolaters.
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Post by rescuedbymary06 on Feb 19, 2009 18:18:45 GMT -5
The Miracle of the Host
Above the village is a steep hill on which stands a cluster of 9 pine trees. "One day," said the girls, "an angel with a golden chalice appeared to us at "The Pines". He told us to recite the Confiteor and then he gave us Holy Communion." This wonderful favor happened many times during those days when the parish priest of the neighboring town of Cosio could not go to Garabandal. It was possible to film some of these Communions, using very bright light. The movements of the lips and tongues of the girls gave the exact idea of a real Communion. On May 2, 1962, the angel told Conchita that God would perform a miracle so that all people would believe: they would see the Sacred Host on her tongue at the moment of Communion and that she should make this known fifteen days in advance. On July 18, 1962, the town was crowded with visitors. At midnight Conchita, who had remained in her home continually surrounded by visitors, entered into ecstasy and went out into the street. At a short distance from her house she fell down on her knees in the midst of the crowd. Lanterns were focused on her. She put out her tongue upon which nothing was resting, as everyone could see. In a few moments, a white host appeared on her tongue and remained there for a few minutes. A businessman from Barcelona, Don Alejandro Damians, standing less than three feet from the girl, secured some very good moving pictures. In the film there appeared 79 pictures of the extraordinary scene. This same witness wrote a report which he submitted to the Bishop of Santander, together with a copy of the film. The number of witnesses on this occasion was very large: there were people from different cultures and social classes. Don Benjamin Gomez, a farmer from Potes, wrote:
"I was standing at less than an arm's length from the girl. I saw very well that her tongue was completely clean of everything. The girl did not move. Suddenly there appeared on it the Sacred Host. It was white, shining and resplendent. It reminded one of the snow when the sun strikes it with its brilliant rays. The girl's face was beautifully transformed into heavenly ecstasy. Her face was angelic I can certify that she was there motionless, moving neither hands nor tongue. In this motionless position she received the Sacred Host. We had enough time to contemplate this marvelous phenomenon without any undue haste, and we were many who saw it. I was an unbeliever until that day. I am not such a Catholic as to be subject to any hallucination or imagination. I had not concerned myself about God until then except to offend Him. I went to confession in April but previous to that time I had not gone to confession for twenty-three years."
The miracle of the host is a true confirmation of the apparitions of Our Blessed Mother in Garabandal and of the reality of her message. But a still greater miracle has been promised.
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Post by rescuedbymary06 on Feb 19, 2009 18:20:57 GMT -5
catholics aren't Christians. They are idolaters.
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Post by burningnow on Feb 19, 2009 18:26:11 GMT -5
catholics aren't Christians. They are idolaters. Wow, nice statement. Got any proof to back that piece of fluff up?
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Post by rescuedbymary06 on Feb 19, 2009 19:30:59 GMT -5
Excuse me burningnow,
But why are you "burning now"?
Is this some kind of rebuttle to hell fire preaching?
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Post by burningnow on Feb 19, 2009 19:36:05 GMT -5
Yes, its a rebuttal to hell fire preaching. No matter what you say or do, hell fire preachers will say that you're going to hell unless you follow their EXACT brand of Christianity.
I'm really damn tolerant, except when it comes to people like these who decide play play in absolutes in an area that has absolutely none at all.
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Post by rescuedbymary06 on Feb 19, 2009 21:00:03 GMT -5
Yes, its a rebuttal to hell fire preaching. No matter what you say or do, hell fire preachers will say that you're going to hell unless you follow their EXACT brand of Christianity. I'm really damn tolerant, except when it comes to people like these who decide play play in absolutes in an area that has absolutely none at all. Ah, I see. Have you considered the Catholic Church and Her Sacraments?
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Post by steve spidell on Feb 19, 2009 23:37:17 GMT -5
Yes, its a rebuttal to hell fire preaching. No matter what you say or do, hell fire preachers will say that you're going to hell unless you follow their EXACT brand of Christianity. I'm really damn tolerant, except when it comes to people like these who decide play play in absolutes in an area that has absolutely none at all. WOW! in one day you register and have forty posts all which are just rantings of your disgust with us. With that kind of rantings and hate, i'll never become an atheist! I do pray you will stop your nonsense and repent and trust Jesus, the one who gave His back to be ripped to shredds for you.
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Post by biblegeek on Feb 20, 2009 0:06:01 GMT -5
"I'm really damn tolerant, except when it comes to people like these who decide play play in absolutes in an area that has absolutely none at all. "
Are you absolutely sure about that? No absolutes is your argument. If there are no absolutes, then are you saying that rape is good? Or is it absolutely bad? How about child molestation. Is that absolutely bad? How about God? Is he absolutely good?
There are absolutes. You apparently are absolutely ignorant of absolutes.
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Post by biblegeek on Feb 20, 2009 0:34:02 GMT -5
catholics aren't Christians. They are idolaters. Wow, nice statement. Got any proof to back that piece of fluff up? Exo 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Exo 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Exo 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; Need I say more? I will Matthew 6:7, Jesus warns Christians, "But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking." "After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven…" (Matt. 6: 9-15).... not "hail Mary, etc." 1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; “Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and shew thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” Jeremiah 33:3 “And call upon me in the day of trouble: I will deliver thee, and thou shalt glorify me.” Psalm 50:15 “Cast thy burden upon the LORD, and he shall sustain thee: he shall never suffer the righteous to be moved.” Psalm 55:22 “Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.” Philippians 4:6 ........NOT MARY Deu 18:10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, Deu 18:11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. Deu 18:12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee. A NECROMANCER is a person that consults with the spirits of the dead. GOD HATES IT! 2Jn 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. 2Jn 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him Godspeed: 2Jn 1:11 For he that biddeth him Godspeed is partaker of his evil deeds. Are you willing to go against the Bible? If you do, you don't have God. I pray that you go back and re-read all the scriptures I just laid out for you. Go to the King James Bible and read it for yourself. Find yourself 1 occurrence where it says for us to pray to Mary or to any of the dead. You won't find it. If the scripture in Deut. states that God hates it, don't you think you may want to check it out? Do you really want to do something that God hates? Wouldn't you rather speak directly with the Father? I'm curious on what your response to God's Word will be.
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Post by burningnow on Feb 20, 2009 0:48:02 GMT -5
"I'm really damn tolerant, except when it comes to people like these who decide play play in absolutes in an area that has absolutely none at all. " Are you absolutely sure about that? No absolutes is your argument. If there are no absolutes, then are you saying that rape is good? Or is it absolutely bad? How about child molestation. Is that absolutely bad? How about God? Is he absolutely good? There are absolutes. You apparently are absolutely ignorant of absolutes. The absolutes I'm talking about is that of faith. Faith has no absolutes as there, as of yet, is not any profound evidence for any deity of any sort. Along the same line, there is no evidence that one religion is "more correct" than another.
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Post by burningnow on Feb 20, 2009 0:51:33 GMT -5
Yes, its a rebuttal to hell fire preaching. No matter what you say or do, hell fire preachers will say that you're going to hell unless you follow their EXACT brand of Christianity. I'm really damn tolerant, except when it comes to people like these who decide play play in absolutes in an area that has absolutely none at all. WOW! in one day you register and have forty posts all which are just rantings of your disgust with us. With that kind of rantings and hate, i'll never become an atheist! I do pray you will stop your nonsense and repent and trust Jesus, the one who gave His back to be ripped to shredds for you. Jesus got many followers and it scared the living crap out of the Roman government. Never mind that during that time false prophets were a dime a dozen and everyone was hailing the end times. I don't ask people to go to any other religion, its an experience that they make on their own. Just don't come over to my campus and shove yours in my face by calling me names.
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Post by biblegeek on Feb 20, 2009 10:09:12 GMT -5
WOW! in one day you register and have forty posts all which are just rantings of your disgust with us. With that kind of rantings and hate, i'll never become an atheist! I do pray you will stop your nonsense and repent and trust Jesus, the one who gave His back to be ripped to shredds for you. Jesus got many followers and it scared the living crap out of the Roman government. Never mind that during that time false prophets were a dime a dozen and everyone was hailing the end times. I don't ask people to go to any other religion, its an experience that they make on their own. Just don't come over to my campus and shove yours in my face by calling me names. you must be a homo
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Post by burningnow on Feb 20, 2009 11:29:25 GMT -5
Jesus got many followers and it scared the living crap out of the Roman government. Never mind that during that time false prophets were a dime a dozen and everyone was hailing the end times. I don't ask people to go to any other religion, its an experience that they make on their own. Just don't come over to my campus and shove yours in my face by calling me names. you must be a homo Wow. Just wow. I give a small history lesson and rather than engage me in intelligent conversation, you go right to the lowest denominator and call me a homosexual. I'm not offended, but unfortunately for you I'm straight. You my friend are a stupid retard that can't think of anything but trying to save everyone because you interpreted the bible in some funky way. Leave your bible and beliefs at home and at church. We don't need your kind prowling on college campuses. Then again, you are good entertainment while you scream as loud as possible that we're going to your special bad place.
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Post by dmatic on Feb 20, 2009 14:34:07 GMT -5
biblegeek, you wrote this accusation: I'm going to call on you to repent of this false accusation, and while you're doing so, please check your heart. It would be nice for you to apologize to burning now too!
peace, dmatic
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Post by boldforchrist on Feb 20, 2009 15:59:33 GMT -5
No, he is not 12. He is 13! I know christiansoldier and I can tell you he spends his after school time being a witness for Christ and handing out tracts. I guess you adults enjoy fighting with someone so young and brave in his beliefs, but it is kind of making me sick. Now we have burninglater, the full grown woman who fights with children. Bravo lady. You most of all need to pray for guidance. If you go to google you will see there are many Christian message boards, you will have a blast! Grace Forum is a nice one for you to go after. I can tell you that christiansoldier is a great young man, one who loves Christ and will spend his life serving Him. We should pray for him that Christ will continue to use him to sow seeds in the lives of all he encounters. But you will probably just continue to pick on him.
For all you tough guys out there who get your kicks this way, your wages will be paid. Romans 6:23
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Post by burningnever on Feb 20, 2009 16:03:52 GMT -5
No, he is not 12. He is 13! I know christiansoldier and I can tell you he spends his after school time being a witness for Christ and handing out tracts. I guess you adults enjoy fighting with someone so young and brave in his beliefs, but it is kind of making me sick. Now we have burninglater, the full grown woman who fights with children. Bravo lady. You most of all need to pray for guidance. If you go to google you will see there are many Christian message boards, you will have a blast! Grace Forum is a nice one for you to go after. I can tell you that christiansoldier is a great young man, one who loves Christ and will spend his life serving Him. We should pray for him that Christ will continue to use him to sow seeds in the lives of all he encounters. But you will probably just continue to pick on him. For all you tough guys out there who get your kicks this way, your wages will be paid. Romans 6:23 Whoohoo! You're gonna stay in your deluded world and quote crap from your 2000 year old history book. Christiansoldier could be out living life and hanging out with friends instead of handing out propaganda. Then again, someone has sadly erased his mind and filled it with crap about an invisible hand from the sky and how if you follow the Bible to the absolute letter (while being a total not a very nice person to all other religions) you will get to be God's slave in the afterlife. Way to give up your free will kiddo.
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Post by biblegeek on Feb 20, 2009 19:50:07 GMT -5
I didn't say, "You're a homo....." I was guessing that he was a homo.... similar to what Jesse said in "Bigfoot attacks a preacher".... Most homo's are easily offended like this guy.
I would apologize but I have nothing to apologize for. Bold for Christ - You're from Hillsboro? I live in Clermont county
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Post by boldforchrist on Feb 20, 2009 22:13:15 GMT -5
Yes I am from Hillsboro, where in Clermont are you from? It is good to meet you brother!
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Post by biblegeek on Feb 21, 2009 0:41:47 GMT -5
Batavia... likewise! Do you ever do any witnessing, street preaching, campus preaching, etc. in the area? My wife and I are itching to dive into it locally. Waiting on the weather to turn.
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Post by boldforchrist on Feb 21, 2009 10:19:30 GMT -5
We do not do campus preaching, but we preach other places and we do a lot of street fishing and tracting. We also do other outreach such as sack lunch evangelism. We make up a couple of hundred sack lunches and go door to door and give them away and share Christ with everyone we give a lunch to. We are getting stuff ready for our next one and we would love to have you and your wife join us!
We have done this in surrounding counties as well but never in Clermont as of yet. Might be a good idea huh? Thanks
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Post by fs on Feb 21, 2009 10:24:45 GMT -5
1, So Saved By Mary got banned too? The banning frenzy us getting out of hand. 2. The sack lunch ministry is a GREAT idea. Your creation? ? This is brilliant.
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