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Post by marysman on Apr 29, 2009 14:30:45 GMT -5
Jesse,
If you continue to reject the Catholic Church you will never know
the truth that she teaches.
The protestant church can lead one to Christ, but that is all that
it can do. It can bring you no further.
You have believed a lie Jesse. Why do you ban those who have
the Truth?
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Post by jonathandwhitehead on Apr 29, 2009 14:45:02 GMT -5
Jesse, If you continue to reject the Catholic Church you will never know the truth that she teaches. The protestant church can lead one to Christ, but that is all that it can do. It can bring you no further. You have believed a lie Jesse. Why do you ban those who have the Truth? I would hope that you were banned for slander rather than voicing your own opinion.
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Post by jonathandwhitehead on Apr 29, 2009 14:47:50 GMT -5
I would also like to add (and speak for myself) that I reject the Catholic Church because I cannot find the Catholic Church in the Bible. Thus, the Catholic Church and the Baptist church will suffer the same destruction.
The books will be laid open on judgment day and your church won't be in it.
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Post by marysman on Apr 29, 2009 14:53:34 GMT -5
Jesse, If you continue to reject the Catholic Church you will never know the truth that she teaches. The protestant church can lead one to Christ, but that is all that it can do. It can bring you no further. You have believed a lie Jesse. Why do you ban those who have the Truth? I would hope that you were banned for slander rather than voicing your own opinion. I was banned because I preach the truth and for no other reason Search my posts and see what you find.
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Post by jonathandwhitehead on Apr 29, 2009 14:56:20 GMT -5
I would hope that you were banned for slander rather than voicing your own opinion. I was banned because I preach the truth and for no other reason Search my posts and see what you find. I did and you personally attacked Jesse (verbally). You're still in a non-essential church.
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Post by marysman on Apr 29, 2009 14:56:50 GMT -5
I would also like to add (and speak for myself) that I reject the Catholic Church because I cannot find the Catholic Church in the Bible. Thus, the Catholic Church and the Baptist church will suffer the same destruction. The books will be laid open on judgment day and your church won't be in it. sir, The Church was on earth for 300 years before there was a New Testament. The Catholic Church gave us the Cannonization of Scripture. Where did you get your Bible anyway? It fell out of the sky complete with leather cover right after the Asension? Come on there big man - The Church gave you your Bible. At least be appreciative huh?
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Post by marysman on Apr 29, 2009 15:00:05 GMT -5
I was banned because I preach the truth and for no other reason Search my posts and see what you find. I did and you personally attacked Jesse (verbally). You're still in a non-essential church. Wow that was a quick search ! Can't hide how disingenuious you are can you? Why did you ask whether or not I was banned for just cause if you already knew? How can I 'verbally' attack someone I've never met anyway ?
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Post by jonathandwhitehead on Apr 29, 2009 15:06:11 GMT -5
sir, The Church was on earth for 300 years before there was a New Testament. The church was established on the day of Pentecost. The Catholic Church gave us the Cannonization of Scripture. 2 Peter 1:21 Where did you get your Bible anyway? It fell out of the sky complete with leather cover right after the Asension? God inspired the Apostles. Come on there big man - The Church gave you your Bible. God gave us the Bible 2 Tim 3:16,17 At least be appreciative huh? You still haven't shown me where your church is in the Bible.
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Post by marysman on Apr 29, 2009 15:08:42 GMT -5
sir, The Church was on earth for 300 years before there was a New Testament. The church was established on the day of Pentecost. 2 Peter 1:21 God inspired the Apostles. God gave us the Bible 2 Tim 3:16,17 At least be appreciative huh? You still haven't shown me where your church is in the Bible. How about Matt. 16:18 ?
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Post by jonathandwhitehead on Apr 29, 2009 15:13:38 GMT -5
The church was established on the day of Pentecost. 2 Peter 1:21 God inspired the Apostles. God gave us the Bible 2 Tim 3:16,17 You still haven't shown me where your church is in the Bible. How about Matt. 16:18 ? There's no Catholic Church in that entire chapter. There is a church of Christ in that chapter but not Catholic Church.
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Post by marysman on Apr 29, 2009 15:16:54 GMT -5
There's no Catholic Church in that entire chapter. There is a church of Christ in that chapter but not Catholic Church. Have you ever read a history book? The Catholic Church was the only Church for 1500 years. Unless your going to adhere to that ridiculious invisible theory. Which can't be proven...
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Post by jonathandwhitehead on Apr 29, 2009 15:19:58 GMT -5
There's no Catholic Church in that entire chapter. There is a church of Christ in that chapter but not Catholic Church. Have you ever read a history book? The Catholic Church was the only Church for 1500 years. Unless your going to adhere to that ridiculious invisible theory. Which can't be proven... Waiting to see your church in the Bible.
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Post by marysman on Apr 29, 2009 15:25:14 GMT -5
Have you ever read a history book? The Catholic Church was the only Church for 1500 years. Unless your going to adhere to that ridiculious invisible theory. Which can't be proven... Waiting to see your church in the Bible. Sir, the Church came before the New Testament. The Church gave us the Bible. Your waiting to see the Catholic Church taught in the Bible??? I'm waiting to see the Bible taught in "your" church.!!!
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Post by jonathandwhitehead on Apr 29, 2009 15:30:18 GMT -5
Sir, the Church came before the New Testament. The Church gave us the Bible. Of course. The New Testament was not complete when Jesus established his church. It's hilarious that the New Testament came after the church yet the New Testament says nothing about the Catholic Church. hahahaha Your waiting to see the Catholic Church taught in the Bible??? Yes. I'm waiting to see the Bible taught in "your" church.!!! I don't have a church.
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Post by marysman on Apr 29, 2009 15:35:41 GMT -5
Sir, the Church came before the New Testament. The Church gave us the Bible. Of course. The New Testament was not complete when Jesus established his church. It's hilarious that the New Testament came after the church yet the New Testament says nothing about the Catholic Church. hahahaha Yes. I'm waiting to see the Bible taught in "your" church.!!! I don't have a church. Sir, the Catholic Church was the only Church in existence at the time. What's so incredible about the Fact that the writters of the New Testament took for granted thah they were writting about themselves. You will never understand the Scriptures without the Church. You don't have a Church? You do have a Church!! She has been there all along - For the last 2000 years.
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Post by jonathandwhitehead on Apr 29, 2009 15:43:45 GMT -5
Sir, the Catholic Church was the only Church in existence at the time. WRONG. The Bible warns us about the other churches that were being established. In fact, the Paul told the Christians to mark those who cause divisions. Romans 16:17 1 Corinthians 1:10 What's so incredible about the Fact that the writters of the New Testament took for granted tath they were writting about themselves. The Apostles told us about the true church. They knew that there were other churches being established. Read Ephesians 4:4-6. There is ONE body which is the church. The Bible talks a lot more about the church than you think it does. You will never understand the Scriptures without the Church. You don't get any more cultish than this. You don't have a Church? You do have a Church!! She has been there all along - Fot the last 2000 years. Jesus has a church. I didn't die for it...
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Post by marysman on Apr 29, 2009 15:51:35 GMT -5
Sir, the Catholic Church was the only Church in existence at the time. WRONG. The Bible warns us about the other churches that were being established. In fact, the Paul told the Christians to mark those who cause divisions. Romans 16:17 1 Corinthians 1:10 The Apostles told us about the true church. They knew that there were other churches being established. Read Ephesians 4:4-6. There is ONE body which is the church. The Bible talks a lot more about the church than you think it does. You don't get any more cultish than this. You don't have a Church? You do have a Church!! She has been there all along - Fot the last 2000 years. Jesus has a church. I didn't die for it... There is only one true Church Jonathan. It is the one that your 'seperators' seperated from. The True one. The universal one. The Catholic one. Care to show me another one that's not in your imagination??
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Post by jonathandwhitehead on Apr 29, 2009 15:56:40 GMT -5
WRONG. The Bible warns us about the other churches that were being established. In fact, the Paul told the Christians to mark those who cause divisions. Romans 16:17 1 Corinthians 1:10 The Apostles told us about the true church. They knew that there were other churches being established. Read Ephesians 4:4-6. There is ONE body which is the church. The Bible talks a lot more about the church than you think it does. You don't get any more cultish than this. Jesus has a church. I didn't die for it... There is only one true Church Jonathan. It is the one that your 'seperators' seperated from. The True one. The universal one. The Catholic one. Care to show me another one that's not in your imagination?? Romans 16:16 "... The Churches of Christ salute you."
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Post by marysman on Apr 29, 2009 16:02:30 GMT -5
There is only one true Church Jonathan. It is the one that your 'seperators' seperated from. The True one. The universal one. The Catholic one. Care to show me another one that's not in your imagination?? Romans 16:16 "... The Churches of Christ salute you." O come on Jonathan - Your not following the fella that started the "church of Christ" are you? You know, the church with the little sign out front that says "establich 33 A.D." As if they have their own popish lineage back to the first century ?? That is a man made religion that came long after the reformation, man. Just because the Apostle refered to the Church in this way does not mean that he was setabliching an official name that some fella can comandeer over 1500 years later for his own purposes. This is what happens when you read the Bible with rose colored glasses Jonathan.
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Post by jonathandwhitehead on Apr 29, 2009 16:12:07 GMT -5
O come on Jonathan - Your not following the fella that started the "church of Christ" are you? Yes. I'm following the "Fella" that started the Churches of Christ (Jesus Christ) and I would suggest you do the same. You know, the church with the little sign out front that says "establich 33 A.D." As if they have theit own popish lineage back to the first century ?? That is a man made religion that came long after the reformation, man. My religions in the Bible, where's yours? Just because the Apostle refered to the Church in this way does not mean that he was setabliching an official name that some fella can comandeer over 1500 years later for his own purposes. The body of Christ is the church. So the Church is of Christ. Making it the Church of Christ because he shed his blood for it. Christ is the husband of the Church and there is only one church and it is found in the Bible. Col 1:18 This is what happens when you read the Bible with rose colored glasses Jonathan. At least I read the Bible. hahaha
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Post by marysman on Apr 29, 2009 16:13:41 GMT -5
O come on Jonathan - Your not following the fella that started the "church of Christ" are you? Yes. I'm following the "Fella" that started the Churches of Christ (Jesus Christ) and I would suggest you do the same. My religions in the Bible, where's yours? The body of Christ is the church. So the Church is of Christ. Making it the Church of Christ because he shed his blood for it. Christ is the husband of the Church and there is only one church and it is found in the Bible. Col 1:18 This is what happens when you read the Bible with rose colored glasses Jonathan. At least I read the Bible. hahaha Johathan Johathan Jonathan Your church is a cult that denies original sin. Have you been baptized in the trinitarian form?? By the way - do you even know who started you church John and when it happened. Or have you at least been told of this man by those in your church. What his name ??
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Post by jonathandwhitehead on Apr 29, 2009 16:14:59 GMT -5
Yes. I'm following the "Fella" that started the Churches of Christ (Jesus Christ) and I would suggest you do the same. My religions in the Bible, where's yours? The body of Christ is the church. So the Church is of Christ. Making it the Church of Christ because he shed his blood for it. Christ is the husband of the Church and there is only one church and it is found in the Bible. Col 1:18 At least I read the Bible. hahaha Johathan Johathan Jonathan Your church is a cult that denies original sin. Have you been baptized in the trinitarian form?? Prove original sin. There's no baptismal formula.
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Post by marysman on Apr 29, 2009 16:16:52 GMT -5
Johathan Johathan Jonathan Your church is a cult that denies original sin. Have you been baptized in the trinitarian form?? Prove original sin. There's no baptismal formula. John - Have you been baptized ?? By the way - do you even know who started you church John and when it happened. Or have you at least been told of this man by those in your church. What's his name ??
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Post by jonathandwhitehead on Apr 29, 2009 16:19:40 GMT -5
John - Have you been baptized ?? I have been baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins. By the way - do you even know who started you church John and when it happened. Or have you at least been told of this man by those in your church. What's his name ?? Jesus started his church and added me to it when I obeyed the Gospel. Acts 2:47 His name is Jesus Christ.
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Post by marysman on Apr 29, 2009 16:26:33 GMT -5
John - Have you been baptized ?? I have been baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins. By the way - do you even know who started you church John and when it happened. Or have you at least been told of this man by those in your church. What's his name ?? Jesus started his church and added me to it when I obeyed the Gospel. Acts 2:47 His name is Jesus Christ. Jonathan, Jesus told His Apostles to baptize in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost. Your baptism is not valid. When Acts says that they baptized in the name of Jesus, they were doing it the way that He said to do it, John. This is what it means to do something in someone's name - to do it the way they said to do it. This is your church's M.O. John. To take something out of context and make a religion out of it. The Catholic Church is the True Church, John.
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Post by dmatic on Apr 29, 2009 18:49:28 GMT -5
someone wrote:
Actually, someone wrote about the "church in the wilderness" referring to the children of Israel in Moses' day.
The "church" simply means "called out ones". God calls us out of "Babylonian" "churches", and tells us not to be partakers of their sin.
The so-called "Catholic Church" has the blood of saints on its hands, and historicly has persecuted those of the true "called out ones".
Peace, dmatic
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Post by jackjackson on Jun 30, 2009 15:01:27 GMT -5
Correct dmatic! The called out ones are those who leave paganism for His ways and instructions. That church at Jesus day were the Jews that He called to see Him as their long awaited Messiah. Gentiles were allowed to be grafted in. He broke down the wall between Jews and Gentiles (Eph. 2:11-21) only to have men place them up again.
Any true church will have Jew and Gentiles joined back together, following His ways (Proverbs 4:2) and having the faith of Jesus (Rev. 14:12).
We find His people being called out of her in the last days; coming back to His old paths Jer. 6:16-19; because they realize their fathers inherited lies (Jer. 16:19); as the Torah goes out (Is. 2) and He comes to set up His kingdom on earth (Ezk Chapters 40-48) in Israel.
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Post by njenkins on Jul 22, 2009 15:44:18 GMT -5
I can't believe this has gone on this long. Anybody with any bit of sense knows the Catholic church and the Pope will have alot to answer for on Judgement Day.
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Post by anchor on Aug 1, 2009 16:40:17 GMT -5
There's no Catholic Church in that entire chapter. There is a church of Christ in that chapter but not Catholic Church. Have you ever read a history book? The Catholic Church was the only Church for 1500 years. Unless your going to adhere to that ridiculious invisible theory. Which can't be proven... Hello Mary, :-) And just WHY was the Catholic Church in POWER all those centuries? Would it be because they ruled by THE SWORD? Yes! Read the history of the Catholic and Jesuits all through the Dark Ages. The terrible deeds they did in the name of Christ! Was this kind of behavior of Christ? No. He commanded Christians to love one another and even to love our enemies to pray and bless them. But the Catholic church killed all who didn't accept their doctrines. (Most were "doctrines of men". Just look at the Knights of Columbus and the Jesuit's OATH: www.truthontheweb.org/jesuit.htmwww.remnantofgod.org/jes-oth.htmAnd just look at the paganism the Catholic church adopted with their worship: www.remnantofgod.org/flash/whore/whoremenu.htmlThe true Church of God is not a SECT or any Organisation. It is "The people of God" which can be found in any Christian association around the globe, who have put their faith in Christ as God's Son and believe in the Word God gave to him. They believe God's Word and OBEYS it. Just because a person claims to be a Catholic does not automatically make him a Christian. Likewise, anyone who even claims to be a Christian, doesn't automatically make him a Christian. Jesus said: "And why do you call me Lord, Lord, and do not DO what I say? Everyone who comes to me and hears my Word, AND ACTS UPON THEM, I will show you whom he is like: he is like a man buiding a house, who dug deep and laid a foundation upon the rock; and when a flood rose, the torrent burst against that house and could not shake it, because it had been well built." See Luke 6:46-49 So just being a Catholic doesn't necessarily mean that a person is a Christian, or that all those of that particular GROUP or SECT are the true Church of God for THE TRUE CHURCH OF GOD are ALL those "HEAR THE WORD OF GOD AND DOES IT." No matter which Christian GROUP they happen to be associated with. Anchor707
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Post by anchor on Aug 1, 2009 17:11:40 GMT -5
Have you ever read a history book? The Catholic Church was the only Church for 1500 years. Unless your going to adhere to that ridiculious invisible theory. Which can't be proven... Hello again Mary, You realize don't you that you are claiming that Salvation can only be obtained through THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. But what did Jesus himself say? "I am THE DOOR; IF ANYONE enters THROUGH ME, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. The THIEF COMES only TO STEAL and kill and DESTROYj. I came that they might HAVE LIFE and might have it in abundance." John 10:9-10 The Pope and the Catholic Church have set themselves IN THE PLACE of Christ and the Catholic Church have KILLED, TORTURED, AND PERSECUTED all those who are not Catholic. They SCATTERED the sheep and MAKE THEMSELVES THE MEDIATOR instead of LETTING Christ be THE MEDIATOR between mEn and God. Christians are suppose to worship God only, yet Catholics worship the Pope, the images in the church buildings, and MARY as well as other SAINTS. IDOLATRY is a sin AGAINST GOD. Anchor707
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