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Post by brandondfm on Dec 30, 2009 2:04:24 GMT -5
IT IS FINISHED! Jesus Christ defeated sin 2,000 years ago all by himself. You CAN NOT do ANYTHING to be saved, none of this do do do gospel. It doesn't matter how many times you go to sunday school, how long you pray. WHAT YOU DO. YOU CAN ONLY BELIEVE HE DIED FOR YOU!
YOU ARE 100% EVIL FREE/SIN FREE if you have been BAPTIZED INTO CHRIST JESUS. If you were baptized INTO Christ then you are united with him, SANCTIFICATION is not a WORK it is a PERSON. JESUS CHRIST. As many as are baptized are united with HIM there is no seperation you have his LIFE IN YOU. 2 HANDs 1 NAIL YOU DIED with CHrist you live IN HIM. HE has been Resurected therefore YOU have been resurected this is the FIRST RESURECTION HALLEIUAH! GLORY TO GOD!
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Post by jonathandwhitehead on Dec 30, 2009 11:58:05 GMT -5
IT IS FINISHED! Jesus Christ defeated sin 2,000 years ago all by himself. You CAN NOT do ANYTHING to be saved, none of this do do do gospel. It doesn't matter how many times you go to sunday school, how long you pray. WHAT YOU DO. YOU CAN ONLY BELIEVE HE DIED FOR YOU! YOU ARE 100% EVIL FREE/SIN FREE if you have been BAPTIZED INTO CHRIST JESUS. If you were baptized INTO Christ then you are united with him, SANCTIFICATION is not a WORK it is a PERSON. JESUS CHRIST. As many as are baptized are united with HIM there is no seperation you have his LIFE IN YOU. 2 HANDs 1 NAIL YOU DIED with CHrist you live IN HIM. HE has been Resurected therefore YOU have been resurected this is the FIRST RESURECTION HALLEIUAH! GLORY TO GOD! So, in order to be saved we have to believe and be baptized but we can't believe and we can't be baptized. Thanks for clearing that up.
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Post by Steve Noel on Dec 30, 2009 14:01:16 GMT -5
IT IS FINISHED! Jesus Christ defeated sin 2,000 years ago all by himself. You CAN NOT do ANYTHING to be saved, none of this do do do gospel. It doesn't matter how many times you go to sunday school, how long you pray. WHAT YOU DO. YOU CAN ONLY BELIEVE HE DIED FOR YOU! YOU ARE 100% EVIL FREE/SIN FREE if you have been BAPTIZED INTO CHRIST JESUS. If you were baptized INTO Christ then you are united with him, SANCTIFICATION is not a WORK it is a PERSON. JESUS CHRIST. As many as are baptized are united with HIM there is no seperation you have his LIFE IN YOU. 2 HANDs 1 NAIL YOU DIED with CHrist you live IN HIM. HE has been Resurected therefore YOU have been resurected this is the FIRST RESURECTION HALLEIUAH! GLORY TO GOD! It's too bad you've thrown out the words of Christ for the theories of men. For Jesus said very clearly and concisely in the "Sermon on the Mount": "For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven." (Mt 5:20) The righteousness he speaks of here is NOT the righteousness of Christ imputed. That is uncontrovertably clear from the context of the "Sermon on the Mount". It's unquestionable that throughout Matthew 5-7 "righteousness" has to do with your attitudes and actions. I challenge you to show me otherwise from the texts and contexts of Matthew 5-7.
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Post by Jesse Morrell on Dec 31, 2009 0:42:02 GMT -5
Yes Matt. 5:20 has nothing to do with imputed righteousness. It is about how the law of Christ is greater than the law of Moses. We must love our enemies, not look at women with lust, not hate our neighbor, etc. While the law of Moses says do not murder or do not commit adultery, Jesus said that hatred is murder and looking with lust is adultery. That is the context of our righteousness exceeding that of the Pharisees.
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Post by Jesse Morrell on Dec 31, 2009 0:43:14 GMT -5
Repentance and the Finished Work of Christ
I have met some who believe that you do not need to repent of your sins so long as you trust “in the finished work of Christ”. Their view of the atonement makes man’s choice to repent unnecessary. Their view of the atonement nullifies the necessity of a sinner to give up their sin. At the University of Iowa in Iowa City a student asked me, “Didn’t Jesus die for all of our sins? Why then do we need to stop sinning?” They view the atonement as a means through which we could enjoy our sin in this life and then enjoy Heaven in the next life. To them, the atonement was not a means through which we could be pardoned if we forsake our sins, nor was it a measure meant to bring us to repentance. Their view of the atonement is nothing more than a license to sin. This view must break the heart of God, who gave His Son that He might save us from sin (Matt. 1:21), not help us continue to sin! “Unto you first God having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.” (Acts 3:26)
God is good and would never help sin to exist or continue! Sin is the worst thing in the entire universe! God is infinitely against it with all of His Holy Being! Jesus did not die so that we could choose to continue in our sins and be protected with impunity or immunity. Jesus did not die to overthrow the moral government of God and help mankind’s revolt against the Lord. His atonement was not meant to be an accomplice or supporter of sin. The atonement was not meant to contribute to the moral decay of our race and make this world even worse than before He came.
The fact is, the blood of Christ does not cover those who continue in their sins (Heb. 10:26-31). Only those who forsake their sins find mercy and have their sins covered by the blood of the atonement. It would be no good news to God’s universe at all if God gave sinners a license to sin, or if men were forgiven while they were in their sins, or if sinners were going to heaven while they continued in their rebellion! Jesus is the author of eternal salvation to all that obey Him (Heb. 5:9). Jesus is not the author of eternal salvation to those who disobey Him!
A proper view of the atonement shows how it is compatible with repentance. In order to understand the atonement, we must understand the penalty of the law. The penalty for our sins is eternal hell fire (Rom. 6:23; 2 Thes. 1:9). Ray Comfort said, “What then is the punishment for sin? It is everlasting damnation.” Ray Comfort (God Doesn’t Believe in Atheists, published by Bridge-Logos, p. 120) God does not execute the penalty of the law for any personal or vindictive reasons (Eze. 18:32; 33:1; Lam. 3:32-33; Heb. 12:10). The penalty of the law is executed for governmental reasons (Dan. 6:14-16; Esther 1:15-22; Ecc. 8:11; Rom. 11:20-22; 1 Cor. 10:5-6; 2 Pet. 2:6; Jude 1:7). God is the Lord of hosts, which means He rules over many moral beings (Amos 4:13). The moral government of God is not limited to mankind. The hosts of heaven cannot even be numbered (Jer. 33:22; Heb. 12:22). God must publicly declare, display, or manifest His regard for His law in order to maintain its authority and influence throughout His moral government and keep it from calling into contempt amongst all of His subjects. God’s moral government is full of moral agents whose wills are moved or influenced by truths and motives being presented to their minds. Therefore if God is going to maintain His authority and the authority of His law, in order to promote the well-being of His universe, He must manifest to minds of His subjects His regard for His law. He does this either through the execution of penalty or through a substituted measure, lest the falls into contempt and his subjects are encouraged to disobey. The awfulness of crime and the value of the law are shown in the severity of punishment which is executed because of transgression. Whenever a Ruler executes the penalty of the law upon transgressors, He is showing the rest of His subjects His sacred regard for His law and for their well-being. The execution of penalties is meant to be a public example to deter others from doing likewise (1 Cor. 10:5-6; 2 Pet. 2:6; Jude 1:7).
Thomas W. Jenkyn said, “The suffering of a sinner, of one who transgresses the law, are right and good for the ends of the government which we are members. The penalty is inflicted, not for the mere sake of putting the delinquent to pain, nor of gratifying the private revenge of a ruler, but to secure and promote the public ends of good government. These ends are to prevent others from transgressing; by giving, to all the subjects, a decided and clear demonstration of the dignity of the law, and a tangible proof of the evil of crime.” Thomas W. Jenkyn (The Extent of the Atonement, p. 144)
The problem of mere forgiveness (remitting penalty) is that the governmental purpose of penalty would be unfulfilled or unsatisfied. Forgiveness without atonement would encourage rebellion and cause the law to fall into contempt. Forgiving the disobedience of mankind without the atonement would weaken and dishonor the law throughout the moral universe. Therefore God has governmental reasons in requiring atonement, in order to solve His governmental problems of forgiveness. The atonement must substitute the execution of our penalty in order to satisfy the purpose of our penalty. That way our penalty can be remitted without the governmental problems that mere forgiveness would have caused
Gregory of Nazianzus said, “Is it not plain that the Father received the ransom, not because He himself required or needed it, but for the sake of the Divine government of the universe, and because man must be sanctified through the incarnation of the son of God?” Gregory of Nazianzus (yr 330-390) (The Truth Shall Make You Free by Gordon Olson, Published by Bible Research Corp, p. 99)
Charles Finney said, “The atonement is a governmental expedient to sustain law without the execution of its penalty to the sinner.” Charles Finney (The Oberlin Evangelist; July 30, 1856; On the Atonement, p. 2)
The idea of the atonement is that it substitutes our penalty of hell, fulfilling the purpose of our penalty, so that our penalty can be remitted (Heb. 9:22). The atonement is “to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins…” (Rom. 3:25). God must be just to His universe by discouraging rebellion, just to His law by maintaining its authority and influence, and just to Himself by manifesting His true character, if He is going to set aside the penalty of hell that sinners deserve. “To declare, I say at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him that believeth in Jesus.” (Rom. 3:26).
The purpose of executing penalties is not mere retribution. If the only objective was retribution, Jesus Christ would not have died for us since He was innocent and therefore did not deserve to be treated the way He was. The objective of penalties is public justice. God maintains His law by manifesting to all His subjects His sacred regard for His law. Since the atonement is an alternative, replacement, or substitute for our penalty, it must fulfill the purpose of our penalty, otherwise forgiveness or remission would be unsafe. Though the atonement did not and could not have satisfied retributive justice, since Christ was innocent, the atonement did satisfy public justice, since God’s regard for His law is manifested and therefore its authority and influence is maintained.
Jonathon Edwards said, “The atonement is the substitute for the punishment threatened in the law; and was designed to answer the same ends of supporting the authority of the law, the dignity of the divine moral government, and the consistency of the divine conduct in legislation and execution.” Jonathon Edwards Jr. (The Necessity of the Atonement, p. 5-6) Albert Barnes said, “His sufferings were in the place of the penalty, not the penalty itself. They were a substitution for the penalty, and were, therefore, strictly and properly vicarious, and were not the identical sufferings which the sinner would himself have endured.” Albert Barnes (Commentary on Galatians 3:13) He also said, “The atonement is something substituted in the place of the penalty of the law, which will answer the same ends as the punishment of the offender himself would. It is instead of punishment. It is something which will make it proper for the lawgiver to suspend or remit the literal execution of the penalty of the law, because the object or end of that penalty has been secured, or because something has been substituted for that which will answer the same purpose.” Albert Barnes (The Atonement, Published by Bethany Fellowship, p. 244-145.)
The suffering of Christ was a substitute for the punishment of sinners; it was an alternative to the damnation of our race. His voluntary suffering takes the place of the punishment of the guilty. His suffering and death is an adequate substitute for our eternal punishment because it reveals to the universe God’s regard for His law in an even greater way than our penalty would have. Since the purpose of our penalty has now been fulfilled through this substitute or alternative measure, our penalty itself can be remitted by God’s grace and mercy. While the atonement is a substitute for our penalty so that our penalty can be remitted, in order to actually have your penalty remitted you must repent of your sins (Lk. 24:47; Acts 2:38). Just as it would not be safe to the public for God to pardon without atonement, so also it would not be safe for God to pardon without repentance. Therefore the conditions of God’s forgiveness are not only an atonement but also repentance.
The atonement of Christ was made for every individual (Isa. 45:22; 53:6; 55:1; Eze. 18:30-32; Matt. 23:37; Mk. 16:15-16; Lk. 2:10-11; Jn. 1:29; 3:16; Rom. 2:11; 5:15; Heb. 2:9; 2 Cor. 5:14-15; 1 Tim. 2:11; 4:10; Tit. 2:11; Heb. 2:9; 2 Pet. 2:1; 1 Jn. 2:2; Rev. 3:20). However, this does not mean that every individual is saved. “And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our only, but also for the sins of the whole world” (1 Jn. 2:2). Yet we know that the whole world is not saved from God’s wrath and hell. The atonement of Christ does not automatically or unconditionally save anyone. That is why we have the ministry of reconciliation (2 Cor. 5:18). Men need to obey the Gospel (2 Thes. 1:8; 1 Pet. 4:17). The blood of Christ does not cover men if they continue in their sins (Heb. 10:26). Only those who are converted, who forsake their sins, have their sins covered by the blood of Jesus Christ. Some are saved by the atonement and some are not saved by the atonement, not because the atonement was limited, but because some men choose repent and believe while others choose not to.
It must be understood that the atonement was not the payment of our debt but was that which was necessary for God to graciously and mercifully pardon our debt (Matt 6:12; 18:27; Lk. 7:42). The debt that we owed was an eternity in the lake of fire. The atonement is a substitute for our penalty, not the penalty itself. If the atonement was just a commercial transaction where our debt was paid, we wouldn’t need to repent and believe to be saved since even if we are impenitent and unbelieving, our debt is still paid. We wouldn’t have to worry about ever going to hell if we continue in our sins. And there would be no real forgiveness in our salvation since forgiveness is when our debt is pardoned, when our penalty is remitted. We could never pray as Jesus taught us to, “forgive us our debts” (Matt. 6:12).
Contrary to what some theologians try to say, the atonement did not satisfy the wrath of God. This is obvious since God still has wrath after the atonement (Rom. 1:18; 2:5; Col 3:6; Rev. 6:17; 14:10; 16:19). Jesus died for the whole world but the world is still under God’s wrath. If God’s wrath was satisfied for us, we wouldn’t need to repent and believe in order to be saved from God’s wrath. There would also be no real forgiveness or mercy if God’s wrath was satisfied because forgiveness and mercy is when God turns away from His wrath. The truth is that atonement makes the forgiveness of sins available to everyone. Forgiveness is not when God’s wrath is satisfied; forgiveness is when God turns away from His wrath (Ps. 78:38; 85:2-3; Micah 7:18). The good news is that because of the atonement, God will turn from His wrath if sinners turn from their sins. But those who stay in their sins stay under God’s wrath despite the atonement that was made for them. Those whom Christ died for can still perish (1 Cor. 8:11; 2 Pet. 2:1). Forgiveness through the atonement comes to those who repent and believe. Forgiveness was made available to all at Calvary but forgiveness only becomes actual at conversion. The atonement is by no means contrary to the requirement of repentance but in fact is the only reason God can forgive those who do repent.
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Post by Jesse Morrell on Dec 31, 2009 0:44:31 GMT -5
Repentance Is Absolutely Required
While I was preaching outside the bars and clubs in Dallas, a woman in line for the club said, “I repent of my sins every night.” She continued to wait in line until she got into the club. Others said, “It is OK to party Saturday nights so long as you go to Church Sunday mornings.” Many do not have a clear understanding of what biblical repentance really is. Some think that repentance is merely asking God for forgiveness or feeling sorry for your sins. Feeling sorry for doing wrong is normal. God designed us constitutionally to feel sorry when we do wrong. It is not by choice, it is by nature. True repentance is the choice to actually give up your sins, to forsake your sins, to renounce your sins and determine to do them no more.
I’ve told sinners while open air preaching, “You might go home tonight, get on your knees and pray ‘God, please forgive me’ and the answer you get back is ‘No’. God might refuse to forgive you! If your heart holds unto sin, God won’t even listen to your prayers (Ps. 66:18). Why should God even listen to your prayers when all you want is a license to sin? It is not enough to just ask God for forgiveness or to feel sorry. You need to actually let go of your sin and determine to live the rest of your life without it! Ray Comfort said, “Unless there is repentance, there is no salvation.” Ray Comfort (God Doesn’t Believe in Atheists, published by Bridge-Logos Publishing, p. 152)
A man must make the choice to give up his sins in order to enter into a relationship with God. Turning from sin or abandoning a sinful life is a sine qua non of a relationship with God. Those who continue in their sins cannot have a relationship with God. “But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.” (Isa. 59:2) And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar and the truth is not in him.” (1 Jn. 2:3-4) There are many today who claim to know God that also claim that they sin every day in word, thought, and deed. To sin every day is to have a habit or practice of sin. Sinning every day is a lifestyle of sin. Such a wicked life is walking in darkness. “If we say that we have fellowship with him and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth.” (1 Jn. 1:6). The cause of man’s spiritual separation with God is his sin or his choice to be sinful. Therefore God must deal with man’s sin, or effectually influence him to change the choice of his living, before He can enter into a relationship with him.
Those who are breaking God’s moral law cannot have a relationship with Him (1 Jn. 2:3-4) and consequently cannot have eternal life because eternal life is to know Him (Jn. 17:3). The wrath of God is against anyone who is in sin or rebellion towards Him (Rom. 1:18; 2:8-9; Eph. 5:6; Co. 3:6). The reason that our world is full of pain, misery, and death, is because our world is full of sin. Heaven will be Heaven, a place of perfect bliss and blessedness, because there is no sin there. There will be peace and harmony in the Kingdom of God because everyone will be obedient to God. Heaven would cease to be Heaven if God allowed sinners to enter in. Heaven would not be Heaven if it was full of sin! That is why the righteous are scarcely saved but sinners are not (1 Peter 4:18). The unrighteous will not inherit God’s Kingdom (1 Cor. 6:9-10). God will not allow anyone into Heaven who is still sinning (Matt. 13:41-42; Rev. 21:27; 22:15). Since Jesus is our present Savior, and death is not the Savior, our sin must stop before we die (Rev. 22:11). Only those who are obedient to God’s commandments will be allowed into Heaven (Matt. 7:21; 19:17; Rev. 22:14). Men must become pure in heart and holy in life (Matt. 5:8; Heb. 12:14). Jesus said that unless a man is born again or undergoes a deep moral transformation, they cannot enter the Kingdom of God (Jn. 3:3). These are widely neglected and ignored biblical truths!
If a man has never repented of his sins, he has never been forgiven or reconciled to God, he has never been born again or regenerated by the Holy Spirit, he has never obeyed the Gospel or received Jesus Christ, he has never turned from darkness to light or renounced his service and allegiance to the devil, and he has never loved Jesus Christ or glorified God. Yet there are multitudes of people today who claim to be “saved” or to be Christians who have never forsaken or given up their sins!
While I was preaching on the University of Arkansas in Conway, I was heckled by an older woman who was cursing up a storm. She was very hostile towards our preaching. She said, “I am a Christian. And I am a sinner. But I know that I’m going to Heaven!” I said, “You can’t take your sins to Heaven! You need to give them up! Give them up! Give them up!” She stubbornly refused and started chanting, “Leave our campus”. The problem was that she was unwilling to give up her sins. She didn’t really love God. She just wanted to enjoy her sin now and then enjoy Heaven later.
The Bible says that God is angry with the wicked every day (Ps. 7:11). It also says that the wicked will be cast into hell (Ps. 9:17). Therefore we must give up our wickedness if we expect to escape the anger and wrath of God. While I was traveling through Alabama I saw on a Church sign, “God’s Not Mad At You… No Matter What!” I found out that the Pastor of that Church had a previous Church where he committed adultery with his secretary. When the husband of the secretary found out, he committed suicide. The Pastor moved locations and Churches because of the incident and now Pastors the Church with the sign “God’s Not Mad At You… No Matter What!” God is most certainly angry with sinners until they repent of their sins.
One modern antinomian said that you do not need to forsake your sins to be saved, that the Bible nowhere says you must repent of your sins to be forgiven, and that saying you must forsake your sins or repent is damnable heresy. This man, at the age of 41, was later arrested on felony and misdemeanor charges for having sex with a minor. Wicked doctrine will lead to a wicked life. Those who are against the message of turning from sin have some type of sin in their life that they are unwilling to give up. His false gospel helped him in his sin, making him comfortable instead of convicted. His false doctrine set him up for failure, encouraging him to sin. If a preacher does not preach “stop sinning” than the only alternative is that they are preaching “keep sinning”.
Why would God grant eternal life to a sinner? God doesn’t want sin to be eternal! That is why Adam was removed from the tree of life (Genesis 3:22). God only pardons those that are safe to pardon. It is not safe for God to pardon a criminal who plans on continuing in his life of crime. Why should God forgive us for breaking His moral law if we plan to continue to break His moral law? If God’s law is so good that He punishes transgressors, than God’s law is so God that a return to obedience is obligatory upon man. If God’s law is so important that Jesus Christ had to die for our transgressions, than certainly God must want us to give up our transgressions. If sin is so bad that it needs to be forgiven, than sin is so bad that it needs to be forsaken. It is a mockery for a rebel to ask the Ruler for pardon, while he plans on continuing his rebellion against the Ruler!
Is it not demanded by wisdom and benevolence that only those who are repentant be forgiven? Suppose a Ruler was to release into the community through pardon criminals, whether they were reformed or not. Would not the community be endangered by such an unwise and unloving pardon? Imagine rapists who are pardoned, who still intend on raping! Or murderers pardoned, who still plan on murdering! How cruel and foolish it would be to pardon a criminal who has not had a change of mind about crime, who does not intend on living lawfully, who does not plan on acting differently. If a Ruler is to pardon a criminal at all, he must only pardon upon condition of repentance, or else he is unwise and unloving. None can have the grace and mercy of God but those who have had a change of mind about disobedience.
Catherine Booth said, “It is not that He does not love you, sinner; it is not that the great, benevolent heart of God has not, as it were, wept tears of blood over you; it is not that He would not put His loving arms around you this moment if you would only come to His feet and confess you were wrong, and seek His pardon; but, otherwise he may not--He cannot. The laws of His universe are against His doing so. The good, it may be, of millions of immortal beings is involved. He dare not, and He cannot, until there is a change of mind IN YOU. You must repent. ‘Except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.’ … Then what is REPENTANCE? REPENTANCE IS SIMPLY RENOUNCING SIN--turning round from darkness to light--from the power of Satan unto God. This is giving up sin in your heart, in purpose, in intention, in desire, resolving that you will give up every evil thing, and DO IT NOW” Catherine Booth (Papers on Godliness by Catherine Booth, published in 1881, p. 92, 94-95)
Paris Reidhead said, "Repentance means making a 180-degree turn. It means changing your mindset from 'I'm going to do what I want to do,' to, 'Lord, I'm going to please you as long as I live.' It is a change of mind, a change of intention, a change of purpose, a change of practice." Paris Reidhead (Finding the Reality of God, pg 87) To repent means you choose to give up your sins (2 Cor. 12:21; Rev. 2:21; Rev. 9:21). It is very clear in the Scriptures that repenting of sin must come before the remission of sin. Before God will remit the penalty of hell, sinners must change their mind about sinning. “Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee” (Acts 8:22). “Then Peter said unto them, Repent…. For the remission of sins…” (Acts 2:38). “Repent, ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out…” (Acts 3:19). “Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life” (Acts 11:18). The Bible talks about “repentance to salvation…” (2 Corinthians 7:10). We must repent of our sinful life unto an obedient life.
The Apostolic Constitutions said, "A sinner avoids destruction by repentance." Apostolic Constitutions (Didascalia Apostolorum, Book II) Hermas said, “That was sound doctrine which you heard; for that is really the case. For he who has received remission of sins should not sin anymore, but should live in purity." Hermas (Ante-Nicene Fathers Vol. II, The Pastor of Hermas, Book Second)
Unrepentant sin is unforgivable sin. There is no security or salvation in sin. God only promises grace and mercy to those who give up their sins. Those who choose to continue in their sins do not have the promise of God’s mercy but rather the promise of God’s wrath. “But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God.” (Rom. 2:5). “But unto them that are contentious and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil…” (Rom. 2:8-9). God will only choose to turn from His wrath when sinners choose to turn from their sins.
Man has the ability of repenting of his sins in order to be forgiven by God’s grace and mercy but man does not have the ability of atoning for his own sins by his obedience nor does man have the ability of earning his salvation by performing works. We are capable of obedience but our obedience is not capable of saving us. We need God’s grace and mercy which comes through the atonement of Jesus Christ, upon all those who freely choose to repent and believe. Our capability to obey does not negate the necessity for the atonement, and the atonement does not negate the necessity for repentance.
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Post by Steve Noel on Dec 31, 2009 1:29:45 GMT -5
Yes Matt. 5:20 has nothing to do with imputed righteousness. It is about how the law of Christ is greater than the law of Moses. We must love our enemies, not look at women with lust, not hate our neighbor, etc. While the law of Moses says do not murder or do not commit adultery, Jesus said that hatred is murder and looking with lust is adultery. That is the context of our righteousness exceeding that of the Pharisees. Exactly!
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Post by brandondfm on Dec 31, 2009 2:40:48 GMT -5
I am UNITED I am UNSEPERATABLE FROM JESUS CHRIST. Therefore his GODLINESS IS MINE. I couldnt do it on my own, so I took him to be mine. Therefore I am free from sin, SIN IS DEAD to me becuase I am IN CHRIST ROMANS 6
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Post by brandondfm on Dec 31, 2009 2:42:38 GMT -5
IT IS FINISHED! Jesus Christ defeated sin 2,000 years ago all by himself. You CAN NOT do ANYTHING to be saved, none of this do do do gospel. It doesn't matter how many times you go to sunday school, how long you pray. WHAT YOU DO. YOU CAN ONLY BELIEVE HE DIED FOR YOU! YOU ARE 100% EVIL FREE/SIN FREE if you have been BAPTIZED INTO CHRIST JESUS. If you were baptized INTO Christ then you are united with him, SANCTIFICATION is not a WORK it is a PERSON. JESUS CHRIST. As many as are baptized are united with HIM there is no seperation you have his LIFE IN YOU. 2 HANDs 1 NAIL YOU DIED with CHrist you live IN HIM. HE has been Resurected therefore YOU have been resurected this is the FIRST RESURECTION HALLEIUAH! GLORY TO GOD! So, in order to be saved we have to believe and be baptized but we can't believe and we can't be baptized. Thanks for clearing that up. In Order to be Saved you must believe he died for you. You are baptized INTO CHRIST BY NO WORK of your own. SO yeah SALVATION IS A GIFT. You really cant believe on your own.
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Post by messengermicah on Dec 31, 2009 18:53:07 GMT -5
1 John 2:29-If ye know that He is righteous ye know that everyone that DOES RIGHTEOUSNESS IS BORN OF HIM.
If you are born again you know you are righteous by the fact YOU DO RIGHTEOUSLY. YOU LIVE RIGHTEOUSLY.
1 John 3:7-Little children let no man deceive you. HE THAT DOES RIGHTEOUSNESS IS RIGHTEOUS EVEN AS HE IS RIGHTEOUS.
Only those that do righteousness are truly made righteous as He is righteous.
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Post by Jesse Morrell on Jan 1, 2010 13:35:16 GMT -5
We must turn from our sins and believe in Christ to get saved, so we must stay away from sin and continue to trust in Christ to stay saved.
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