Post by josh on Sept 10, 2005 22:07:34 GMT -5
Tonight was the return to King George square, which was the scene of last weeks attack.
I was nervous before going, but once there, I just felt at peace about the whole thing. (and not a goth in sight! )
Once at the square, three of us met up, and started off doing some one to one work around city hall.
I was using the pink and blue cards to stop people, then swing into the good test, and this was going really well. Two guys we witnessed to were under conviction, and they asked alot of questions. I would not be surprised if these to guys repented later on (please pray for them).
It was then that Nathan and I saw a large gathering in city hall, so we went across and spoke to a few of the youth out the front.
I asked what was going on and they informed me that it was the global conference of 'Revival Centre' churches, now this name rang a bell in my mind, back to the cult members that we encounted at EBC NZ 1 in Christchurch.
So I asked them a few questions, and they told us that one must speak in tongues to be saved. Then one of the youth started quoting their doctrine to a text book standard, it was like he had it all memorised.
We started reasoning with them using scripture, and it shook them up a bit, so one of the youth went to get a pastor. The pastor they got was 'pastor in charge' for their entire movement. He came in full of pride and started making a case for their beliefs that you must speak in tongues to be saved.
Nathan (full time theology student) and myself (former bible college student) stood our ground when he started in on the greek, and different scriptures. I would say that he was getting beaten so he went and got another pastor, this time from PNG, and again he went through the same scripture, which we were able to reason with him, that tongues aren't essential for salvation.
That is when it got ugly, about four top pastors from Australia and New Zealand, came out and jumped into the debate.
These guys got really angry at us when it came doctrine, and they kept quoting scripture out of context to support their cause.
I rebuked the New Zealand pastor, and he started getting really angry, yelling I am a false prophet and an idiot. So I rebuked him again, and said 'You are the one spoken of in the epistles, about ministers giving heed to demonic doctrine, and teaching the doctrine of devils. You have prostituted the scriptures to advance you demonic cause, now unless you repent you will perish'.
This set them right off, he was yelling at me saying demons aren't real, how dare you say I am teaching demon doctrine, they don't exist.
He then decided to say I am the son of the devil, and God wouldn't judge him, so I hammered him the law, and it left him a bit stunned.
The next thing you hear Nathan laughing, I turned and looked at him, and he said 'Guess what! We have been reasoning with these guys, and they deny that Jesus is God!'
So now it was a mini debate with the Australian pastor, it was the one two punch with Nathan and I quoting scripture back and forth until he got angry, said we were deceived and left.
It was about two hours of debate, but the battle was always with the eye on the cross, and it kept coming back to sin and repentence.
Last week it was a demonic attack by satanists, this week by cult members.
After this we went and handed out a few tracts, and did some Open air in the Queen st. Mall. This was good, and then we broke off into one 2 one.
All in all it was a great night with alot of damage done to the kingdom of darkness.
TO GOD BE THE GLORY!!
I was nervous before going, but once there, I just felt at peace about the whole thing. (and not a goth in sight! )
Once at the square, three of us met up, and started off doing some one to one work around city hall.
I was using the pink and blue cards to stop people, then swing into the good test, and this was going really well. Two guys we witnessed to were under conviction, and they asked alot of questions. I would not be surprised if these to guys repented later on (please pray for them).
It was then that Nathan and I saw a large gathering in city hall, so we went across and spoke to a few of the youth out the front.
I asked what was going on and they informed me that it was the global conference of 'Revival Centre' churches, now this name rang a bell in my mind, back to the cult members that we encounted at EBC NZ 1 in Christchurch.
So I asked them a few questions, and they told us that one must speak in tongues to be saved. Then one of the youth started quoting their doctrine to a text book standard, it was like he had it all memorised.
We started reasoning with them using scripture, and it shook them up a bit, so one of the youth went to get a pastor. The pastor they got was 'pastor in charge' for their entire movement. He came in full of pride and started making a case for their beliefs that you must speak in tongues to be saved.
Nathan (full time theology student) and myself (former bible college student) stood our ground when he started in on the greek, and different scriptures. I would say that he was getting beaten so he went and got another pastor, this time from PNG, and again he went through the same scripture, which we were able to reason with him, that tongues aren't essential for salvation.
That is when it got ugly, about four top pastors from Australia and New Zealand, came out and jumped into the debate.
These guys got really angry at us when it came doctrine, and they kept quoting scripture out of context to support their cause.
I rebuked the New Zealand pastor, and he started getting really angry, yelling I am a false prophet and an idiot. So I rebuked him again, and said 'You are the one spoken of in the epistles, about ministers giving heed to demonic doctrine, and teaching the doctrine of devils. You have prostituted the scriptures to advance you demonic cause, now unless you repent you will perish'.
This set them right off, he was yelling at me saying demons aren't real, how dare you say I am teaching demon doctrine, they don't exist.
He then decided to say I am the son of the devil, and God wouldn't judge him, so I hammered him the law, and it left him a bit stunned.
The next thing you hear Nathan laughing, I turned and looked at him, and he said 'Guess what! We have been reasoning with these guys, and they deny that Jesus is God!'
So now it was a mini debate with the Australian pastor, it was the one two punch with Nathan and I quoting scripture back and forth until he got angry, said we were deceived and left.
It was about two hours of debate, but the battle was always with the eye on the cross, and it kept coming back to sin and repentence.
Last week it was a demonic attack by satanists, this week by cult members.
After this we went and handed out a few tracts, and did some Open air in the Queen st. Mall. This was good, and then we broke off into one 2 one.
All in all it was a great night with alot of damage done to the kingdom of darkness.
TO GOD BE THE GLORY!!