Post by Jed on Sept 19, 2005 10:28:25 GMT -5
Thanks for all of the advice and pointers.
Jaolver- The cup worked great! I used a plastic Coca cola cup, the ones with an oversized brim. Unfortunately I only had scissors, so the cut was somewhat jagged and slightly uncomfortable. Notwithstanding, it worked great. I used it when the traffic began to accumulate and it was difficult to just use the Bible I held.
Micah- Another excellent idea to bring sandwiches, bottled water etc. Actually I have such a list somewhere of a montage of helpful places- literally everything-job lines, power bill assistance, food assistance etc. Since I have heard a lot of different stories about the shelters, I am going to call them myself and see if they really charge 5$ to get in (I don't believe it though). Thanks for your reports on Miami and esp. South Beach and the trendy areas- they are very encouraging.
I have another question... anybody that would like to advise me can. When yall go to a shady part of town at night, what should you do regarding females in your group? I almost want to forbid them to come, because it is not really a great neighbourhood, but I don't want to resist God. From what I can tell, it sounds like many of you take your wife or significant other with you. I feel a little queasy thinking about some young lady's dad getting mad at me (even though they are grown up and can make their own decisions).... there are a few young ladys that I know are interested.... Should I take them only if there is a decent sized group or what? Sorry this if this question is just me exhibiting a lack of faith, but I just wanted some reassurance.
Now the report. This could be a lengthy one, but I am on a public computer right now and prob. will not have time before being booted off.
This time there were only two of us, and I was the only one that preached. For some reason I felt a little less confident than last weekend. But I don't trust my feelings for a split second. (Jer 17:9) I don't trust them alone with my decision-making any more than I trust a 13 yr old boy alone with my baby sister. I have no idea why but I was just a little more toned down. I don't scream out there, but on Sat. I hardly even enunciated any words, nor did I lift up my voice as a trumpet as much (Isa 58:1) I just used "soft words and hard arguments" reasoning that the club was a place of death and not a place of life. I even pleaded with them, "Why are you going to the club tonight? It is a place of sin. Turn around and go home. Repent and get right with God. If you really want to we can find you a Bible. Or go to Walmart. It's open 24 hrs. If you really wanted a Bible, you would go to Walmart right now." and etc.
After an hour or 30 minutes or maybe longer, I have no idea, this policeman flew down the street, and stopped right in front of me. When he got out of the car, he marched straight towards me. The entire time he shouted at me. Every word was shouted.
Him- Come down immediately.
Me-Yes sir.
Him- I don't mind what your doing, but you are not going to do it on state property. (Ed. note-The first clause was surely a lie. Also, his car read "State Capitol police" I have never heard of them)
Me- Sir how is this state property? I know that the building across the street is federal and ...
Him-This is state. That's federal.
Me- I thought this was public property.
Him- It is public property from nine to 5. After that you can't be here. Go to that corner or that corner and when I drive by again you BETTER not be here.
Me- Sir...
Him- I am not going to repeat myself again.
He didn't get in his car again until I walked across the street, and stood there angrily until I left. He was as mad as if I had kidnapped his daughter. I am trying not to exaggerate but I think as far as I can remember that this is true. I could not see his name badge and didn't ask for his card (like he would have given it to me) If I would have said anything back to him, I am confident that he would have slammed me against his car and taken me straight to jail. He had a fury out of control, a devilish fury. He thought that he could flex his muscles and intimidate me....
Many street preachers teach that you should avoid getting arrested period... just comply with the officer and go back another day. But I had already resolved , if needs be, to get arrested for my King. But this time I was so stunned, that I had no fight in me. I could hardly walk much less preach. And my anger boiled that of all the people there sinning and causing trouble to the city by their drunkenness, speeding shouting, adultery, and the police was furious with me, pleading with the poor sinners! I was so stunned and angry that I just sat there. I felt like a coward for not resisting the policeman more. It was as if I was walking down the street one day and had a linebacker just tackle me from behind.
What shall I do? Tomorrow on my day off I am going to find out who the State Capitol police are, and about the building. I was standing on a public bench on a public sidewalk. I am confident the building is a private office building. I have been angry thinking about that policeman lying to me, but I am beginning to be angry with myself for caring a lick about his lost soul. What should I do next time? Go to the same "not public after 5 corner"? I really want to do this and if i get arrested, i get arrested. (Esther-If i perish, i perish) Should I try to appease him by standing on the federal corner and still preach? I really think no matter where I stand that this man HATES the gospel and will bother me regardless. Please give feedback, esp if you have been threatened with or been arrested. I knew it was coming, but I didn't think it would be this soon. The very first time we went was in may.
I felt miserable all night and felt bad until that morning I read Acts 3-4. The believers prayer is incredible- They thank God that he already DETERMINED every bit of opposition they would encounter. God is still on his throne, no matter how much they "threaten" me (See ch 4, shows up twice). But it's not about me.... there just isn't much rebuking down there.... I won't let the police shut us down without a fight.
PLEASE PRAY FOR ME.
Jaolver- The cup worked great! I used a plastic Coca cola cup, the ones with an oversized brim. Unfortunately I only had scissors, so the cut was somewhat jagged and slightly uncomfortable. Notwithstanding, it worked great. I used it when the traffic began to accumulate and it was difficult to just use the Bible I held.
Micah- Another excellent idea to bring sandwiches, bottled water etc. Actually I have such a list somewhere of a montage of helpful places- literally everything-job lines, power bill assistance, food assistance etc. Since I have heard a lot of different stories about the shelters, I am going to call them myself and see if they really charge 5$ to get in (I don't believe it though). Thanks for your reports on Miami and esp. South Beach and the trendy areas- they are very encouraging.
I have another question... anybody that would like to advise me can. When yall go to a shady part of town at night, what should you do regarding females in your group? I almost want to forbid them to come, because it is not really a great neighbourhood, but I don't want to resist God. From what I can tell, it sounds like many of you take your wife or significant other with you. I feel a little queasy thinking about some young lady's dad getting mad at me (even though they are grown up and can make their own decisions).... there are a few young ladys that I know are interested.... Should I take them only if there is a decent sized group or what? Sorry this if this question is just me exhibiting a lack of faith, but I just wanted some reassurance.
Now the report. This could be a lengthy one, but I am on a public computer right now and prob. will not have time before being booted off.
This time there were only two of us, and I was the only one that preached. For some reason I felt a little less confident than last weekend. But I don't trust my feelings for a split second. (Jer 17:9) I don't trust them alone with my decision-making any more than I trust a 13 yr old boy alone with my baby sister. I have no idea why but I was just a little more toned down. I don't scream out there, but on Sat. I hardly even enunciated any words, nor did I lift up my voice as a trumpet as much (Isa 58:1) I just used "soft words and hard arguments" reasoning that the club was a place of death and not a place of life. I even pleaded with them, "Why are you going to the club tonight? It is a place of sin. Turn around and go home. Repent and get right with God. If you really want to we can find you a Bible. Or go to Walmart. It's open 24 hrs. If you really wanted a Bible, you would go to Walmart right now." and etc.
After an hour or 30 minutes or maybe longer, I have no idea, this policeman flew down the street, and stopped right in front of me. When he got out of the car, he marched straight towards me. The entire time he shouted at me. Every word was shouted.
Him- Come down immediately.
Me-Yes sir.
Him- I don't mind what your doing, but you are not going to do it on state property. (Ed. note-The first clause was surely a lie. Also, his car read "State Capitol police" I have never heard of them)
Me- Sir how is this state property? I know that the building across the street is federal and ...
Him-This is state. That's federal.
Me- I thought this was public property.
Him- It is public property from nine to 5. After that you can't be here. Go to that corner or that corner and when I drive by again you BETTER not be here.
Me- Sir...
Him- I am not going to repeat myself again.
He didn't get in his car again until I walked across the street, and stood there angrily until I left. He was as mad as if I had kidnapped his daughter. I am trying not to exaggerate but I think as far as I can remember that this is true. I could not see his name badge and didn't ask for his card (like he would have given it to me) If I would have said anything back to him, I am confident that he would have slammed me against his car and taken me straight to jail. He had a fury out of control, a devilish fury. He thought that he could flex his muscles and intimidate me....
Many street preachers teach that you should avoid getting arrested period... just comply with the officer and go back another day. But I had already resolved , if needs be, to get arrested for my King. But this time I was so stunned, that I had no fight in me. I could hardly walk much less preach. And my anger boiled that of all the people there sinning and causing trouble to the city by their drunkenness, speeding shouting, adultery, and the police was furious with me, pleading with the poor sinners! I was so stunned and angry that I just sat there. I felt like a coward for not resisting the policeman more. It was as if I was walking down the street one day and had a linebacker just tackle me from behind.
What shall I do? Tomorrow on my day off I am going to find out who the State Capitol police are, and about the building. I was standing on a public bench on a public sidewalk. I am confident the building is a private office building. I have been angry thinking about that policeman lying to me, but I am beginning to be angry with myself for caring a lick about his lost soul. What should I do next time? Go to the same "not public after 5 corner"? I really want to do this and if i get arrested, i get arrested. (Esther-If i perish, i perish) Should I try to appease him by standing on the federal corner and still preach? I really think no matter where I stand that this man HATES the gospel and will bother me regardless. Please give feedback, esp if you have been threatened with or been arrested. I knew it was coming, but I didn't think it would be this soon. The very first time we went was in may.
I felt miserable all night and felt bad until that morning I read Acts 3-4. The believers prayer is incredible- They thank God that he already DETERMINED every bit of opposition they would encounter. God is still on his throne, no matter how much they "threaten" me (See ch 4, shows up twice). But it's not about me.... there just isn't much rebuking down there.... I won't let the police shut us down without a fight.
PLEASE PRAY FOR ME.