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Post by Jesse Morrell on Jun 20, 2007 13:09:04 GMT -5
I agree with this. I don't take issue with any of the points you made.
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Post by joem on Jun 20, 2007 14:20:28 GMT -5
Quote:Jesse,
I agree that we should rebuke any and every sin and my comments were not in reference to Reuben personally. My point was that a sign saying "God hates f*gs" is not a biblical rebuke, but an unbiblical insult. Jesus told the adulteress to "go and sin no more" not "God hates wh0res". You can rebuke sexual sin without mentioning masturbation, as it was not mentioned specifically in scripture even though sexual sin was addressed often. You can rebuke homosexuality without naming specific perverse acts that homosexuals perform. I wouldn't want my children hearing about the disgusting and explicit acts depraved men, yet they know that homosexuality is sinful and d**ning. My concern is that I sometimes here X-rated preaching that spends more time describing the details of a particular act of sin than it does the condemnation that the sin brings and the means of deliverance that God has provided. I listened to Rubens message and I enjoyed it, and I am not speaking about him personally. Over the years I have found that some brands of "shock and awe" are more about "shocking people" than being in "awe of God".
Grace and Peace, Joe
I agree with this. I don't take issue with any of the points you made.
Jesse,
I thought we were probably in agreement, just losing something in the semantics. My point of reference is a local group that is constantly getting arrested and often more sinful in their behavior than the people the claim to be trying to reach. I thank God for OAO, Kerrigan and others here who are faithful in calling the masses to repentance and faithfulness to Jesus Christ.
Grace and Peace, Joe
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Post by mahatma on Jun 21, 2007 1:09:56 GMT -5
I am all for Ruben's or anyone else's right to free speech. However, I think it's a bit disingenuous to claim hypocrisy on the part of the parade organizers for not allowing him to march with them, when it's fairly obvious that he would be marching shouting through a bullhorn and most likely being disruptive.
If he wants to stand by the side and preach, so be it, but why should he be allowed to march in the parade when he most certainly wouldn't allow homosexuals to come and talk in his church about tolerance?
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