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Post by messengermicah on Mar 31, 2009 17:33:49 GMT -5
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osubamey
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Post by osubamey on Mar 31, 2009 19:08:04 GMT -5
You were insulting a kid dressed up as Abe Lincoln on the anniversary of Lincoln's birthday? Mind telling us all why?
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Post by messengermicah on Apr 2, 2009 19:55:04 GMT -5
He is not a kid but a grown man.
Why do you assume I was insulting him?
He was making comments about not wanting anymore whiteys as president (referring to Obama).
He was saying it loud enough so I could hear him. I have no idea why because the subject I was preaching about had nothing to do with Obama.
I pointed out his obvious racial comments.
You are not in favor of racism are you? I am certainly not even when it is against whites. It is all wrong.
He then ran up and got in my face. Take a look at the picture. The crowd is around me. He had no crowd. He was being ignored.
I knew Abe Lincoln was a racist but most people do not realize he was. This guy was a racist.
He later stole my water jug, slugged out of it and then slammed it on the ground.
Not too honest of Ole Abe to steal.
For more details read my report from University of Florida on 2/12/09.
I realize you are a politically correct coward from your previous posts so I am sure you would have seen my actions as totally justified if someone was making racist comments about black people.
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Post by Melmoth on Apr 2, 2009 21:17:49 GMT -5
I realize you are a politically correct coward from your previous posts so I am sure you would have seen my actions as totally justified if someone was making racist comments about black people. Couldn't resist an insult, could you? |
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osubamey
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Post by osubamey on Apr 4, 2009 1:39:38 GMT -5
I was going to say the exact thing, Melmoth.
Under the picture, Micah, it says that the man was "enduring some harsh words" from you, to quote them. Having watched your videos, someone "enduring harsh words" from you is usually them being insulted (calling women walking by whores and prostitutes, etc).
As for my previous posts, I am a journalist. I choose to look at things objectively, doing research and using facts to support my arguments. If that is being a "politically correct coward", as you choose to put it, then so be it.
On to the term "whitey"... you do know it's an insult against white people, correct? Everything I've seen looking it up has it as an insult to Caucasians, not African-Americans... if you've found something different, please let me know.
As for the picture, from the angle it was taken, of course it would look like you had the crowd. We have no way of knowing about the crowd behind the other guy, but I'll bet money there was one. As a college student, I can tell you we don't just form random semi-circles that stop. If someone is saying something we don't like, we tend to surround them.
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Post by messengermicah on Apr 6, 2009 18:50:43 GMT -5
Show me one video where I have ever called a random girl walking by minding her own business a whore.
Put up or shut up.
Since when are journalists "objective"?
You mean the presidential election campaign was "objective"?
Yes, can you read. I agree the term "whitey" is a racist remark about whites.
I am against all forms of racism unlike yourself who is only against racism that is politically correct (it is ok to be racist against whites but not against blacks).
Unlike you I am against all forms of racism.
This is the second time I am explaining this but if it is still too complicated for you to understand let me know and I will try it again.
Would you like to see the video of where "honest Abe" walked up into my space, stole my water jug, slugged it and then slammed it on the ground?
Somehow the "objective" reporting from your journalist colleagues failed to report that.
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Post by messengermicah on Apr 6, 2009 18:57:46 GMT -5
Here you go and let the facts speak for themselves: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag2_4ACrjeYThere is another video from the same day that shows him walking into my face into my crowd. |
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Post by osubamey on Apr 6, 2009 22:24:33 GMT -5
Fine, I will "put up", as you so eloquently put it. www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdPaouPz2yY&feature=related4:21 mark... I believe your exact words are "If I were dressed like a whore, I wouldn't want to hear this preaching either." Now, excuse me for a second, but the girl was wearing jeans, sandals, and a sleeveless shirt that, while it had a plunging neckline, did not show any cleavage (at least none that you could see on the video). Explain what she did to be called a "whore"? She was walking by and explaining her own beliefs, which she is certainly allowed to do, and because you didn't agree with her and didn't want people to hear her message, you call her a whore? Please, explain. Once again, you choose to insult me without knowing anything about me. I do not condone racism. On my campus, I helped bring to light racism problems that we were having by bringing them to media attention... something finally got done about them. I think our main difference is, here, our definition of racism. I don't see "whitey" as a racist term, nor do I see "cracker" or "cracka" as a racist term. Are they names that are insulting to some people? Sure. Are they racist? No. Good journalists are objective. While I cannot speak for every journalist, I try as hard as possible to get both sides of the story. You can even ask Miles Lewis who has come to my campus multiple times. As for the video, I agree that he was wrong to do that, and I do feel that the newspaper at UF misrepresented the events that occurred in that situation. I'll write a letter to the editor personally regarding it. I'll even post a copy here for you in screenshot form so you can verify that it was sent. However, your interpretation leaves a little to be desired as well, including your comment that he "slammed" your jug on the ground. From the video, it seems like he swigs it, stares you down for a moment, and then drops, or at most lightly tosses, the jug at your feet. I'll work on that letter now. But something I think you need to realize is that not everything is how it seems, and you being so quick to judge people goes against the very message that you are trying to advance. |
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Post by osubamey on Apr 6, 2009 23:03:57 GMT -5
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Post by Brother. Ross on Apr 6, 2009 23:59:44 GMT -5
osubamey:
When I watched the video I did not hear Brother Micah call her a her a whore, It says "If I was dressed like a whore I wouldn't want to hear them preaching either" I just was not sure what part of the video you were referring to.
Calling somebody a whore and saying they are dressed like a whore is not the same thing.
Calling somebody a fireman and saying they are dressed like a fireman is not the same thing.
Calling somebody a cop and saying they are wearing a cop uniform is not the same thing.
I meet many whores on the streets and campuses when I preach, and she dresses the way they do.
She was dressed very immodest and by what she spoke she more than likely is a whore.
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Post by osubamey on Apr 7, 2009 0:43:51 GMT -5
Ross, that is semantics for the sake of semantics. Saying she dresses like a whore is essentially calling her a whore. And what do you mean by the way she spoke? She was preaching her beliefs in the Bible. Is she not allowed to do this? It was a public space, was it not? She has every right to stand there and exclaim her belief in God, same as you or Micah do. Simply because you do not agree with what she was saying does not give you the right to say she was "speaking like a whore".
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Post by Brother. Ross on Apr 7, 2009 1:07:37 GMT -5
Ross, that is semantics for the sake of semantics. Saying she dresses like a whore is essentially calling her a whore. And what do you mean by the way she spoke? She was preaching her beliefs in the Bible. Is she not allowed to do this? It was a public space, was it not? She has every right to stand there and exclaim her belief in God, same as you or Micah do. Simply because you do not agree with what she was saying does not give you the right to say she was "speaking like a whore". If I say you dress like a man am I calling you a man? If I say you look like my mother am I calling you my Mother? Can a Male dress like a woman and be a male, can a female dress like a man and be a female? If I say you dress like Hillary Clinton am I calling you Hillary Clinton or just saying that yo dress like her? It is not semantics, it is literal English and common sense. A 5th grader would know the difference. It is obvious you do not want to deal with truth, you just want to be right and lie so you can rant and accuse. Just admit you are wrong. I can say you dress like a whore but am I calling you a whore? NO. What is a whore? Did you know a female can dress like a whore and not be one. There is a difference between saying "you are a female fornicator" and saying "you dress in a way that gives the impression that you are female fornicator. Do you understand now? |
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Post by Brother. Ross on Apr 7, 2009 1:18:16 GMT -5
He started naming sins, and she started opposing him and saying the verses that he quoted was not the Bible, I think she was convicted of her sin.
She started spreading lies about the Bible! If she thinks its okay to lie, she probably thinks its okay to fornicate.
If she was a christian she would not have done that, I don't know her but I believe at that point she may have been a fornicator. She definitely was not a Christian though.
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Post by messengermicah on Apr 7, 2009 23:05:34 GMT -5
osubamey,
If she began talking to me and interacting with me by saying things to me then in the first place she is not a random girl walking by minding her own business.
I do not ever call people names who are just walking by and say nothing to me. NEVER! Nor do I condone such a thing.
Now please show me where I have ever done that.
Go back and read your original post and read my original post.
Someone making comments to me and telling me what they believe is not a random person walking by.
You do know what random means don't you?
By the way I appreciate you being honest enough to write the letter.
Yes things are not always as they appear and you wrongly judged the situation and falsely accused me initially.
This should be a lesson for you not to immediately believe without question everything you read or hear about me.
So whitey is not a racist remark huh?
Is the "n" word a racist remark?
Would the majority of black people think it was?
How about "jungle bunny"?
How about "tar baby"?
The problem I have with you is if someone made racist remarks about black people you would be on them "like white on rice".
However it is ok for people to make racist remarks about white people.
The term "whitey" does not offend me either neither does "bread", "cracker" or any other supposedly racist term.
My identity is not wrapped up in the color of my skin but in my Savior Jesus Christ.
What bothers me is how it is ok for some racial remarks against some races to be ok but not for others.
I believe we need to be consistent and be against all racism.
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Post by messengermicah on Apr 8, 2009 22:54:07 GMT -5
osubamey,
I believe you are genuinely interested in true journalism and reporting the facts without bias and I respect and appreciate you for that.
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Post by Kureji on Apr 11, 2009 11:35:20 GMT -5
Saying someone is dressed like a whore is not calling someone a whore, it is saying they look like a whore.
Saying someone is dressed like a firefighter is not calling someone a firefighter, it is saying they look like a firefighter.
Saying someone is dressed like an idiot is not calling someone a firefighter, it is saying they look like an idiot.
Saying someone is dressed like a homosexual is not calling someone a firefighter, it is saying they look like a homosexual.
Using it in a conversation is basically saying, I think you are this from the way you are dressed but I don't have confirmation. So no thats not calling her a whore, but you might as well have.
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Post by messengermicah on Apr 11, 2009 12:12:31 GMT -5
Yes, Kureji and where are the random people I am calling names who are just walking by minding their own business?
That was the original accusation.
The burden of proof?
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Post by Kureji on Apr 11, 2009 22:37:28 GMT -5
I didn't say you called anyone a whore, I said saying they are dressed like a whore in our culture is almost as bad.
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Post by messengermicah on Apr 12, 2009 20:52:36 GMT -5
Yes, and the random people who are just walking by who I am allegedly saying these things to?
The burden of proof?
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