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Post by christiansoldier on Feb 19, 2009 13:29:22 GMT -5
Their best is not good enough when they are wrong. On the contrary also, the street preachers are here to impress men, especially their own little clique on the board. Their style, their absurd and abstract doctrines such as sinless perfection and the endless name calling are a disservice to God. For every rare one they reach, how many turn away because of their delivery and name calling. They cause the little ones to stumble. They say to stop sinning. They need to look at themselves. It is better to be judged by me and rectify their errors than to die and find out Christ never knew any of them in spite of their claims. what are YOU doing to spread the gospel? you should examine yourself to see if you are in the faith, as for you're post about hypocrites, if you do not wish to see hypocrites then you should remove all mirrors from your house. how many tracts have you given out today? how many people have you witnessed to this week? stop arguing with Christians that ARE spreading the Gospel. so then, do you agree with Obama? do you support Abortion? what i see in you is a typical God-hating-person-that thinks they are a Christian and that they have all the answers.
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Post by burningnow on Feb 19, 2009 15:34:30 GMT -5
I'm sorry christiansoldier, I didn't know you knew more about God than judgment. May I come and kiss your feet for having such supreme knowledge?
Seriously, take your pompousness elsewhere. Preach love, not tracts and hate.
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Post by christiansoldier on Feb 19, 2009 16:25:56 GMT -5
preach love? i'm sorry, i just don't want people to go to hell, from now on i'll preach "God loves you, and he has a plan for you're life." man, are they going to be surprised on judgement day!
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Post by burningnow on Feb 19, 2009 16:30:41 GMT -5
Why do you care where I go? For all I know there isn't a hell. Please prove that such a place exists - without the Bible please (as that would be a logical fallacy called circular logic).
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Post by christiansoldier on Feb 19, 2009 16:57:43 GMT -5
Why do you care where I go? For all I know there isn't a hell. Please prove that such a place exists - without the Bible please (as that would be a logical fallacy called circular logic). i never said i care where yougo. and i don't feel a need to prove it to you. and why are you on a Christian message board? and yes, i do know more about God then judgment knows.
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Post by burningnow on Feb 19, 2009 16:59:36 GMT -5
You don't feel a need to prove it to me? Why not? If you have enough evidence you should be able to tell me in a heartbeat. Then again - its hard to prove that an imaginary land is real.
Lol, your arrogance shows. You know no more or less about God than anyone. Of course, if you want to believe you know more about your imaginary friend than everyone else, feel free to do so. Just don't ask why there's a straight jacket on you afterward.
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Post by boldforchrist on Feb 19, 2009 17:03:19 GMT -5
I for one, do not care where you go! I know where you will end up and it is a fitting place for you. You will spend eternity in Hell, that is what you deserve and what you want. So, my question to you is this... why are you posting on this board? For someone such as you who hates God, you know the One don't ya, He is the one who created you and sustains you, the one who is allowing you to breath His air as you read this, the One who has mercy on one such as you. Ah, but you hate Him, you deny Him, you spit in His face with your rebellion. So, once again, no, I for one don't care that you are going to Hell, because when you deny The Living God, you offend all of us that love Him more than we love our very lives. This I know, you will never accept the Lord and what He did for you on the cross, very well, so be it. You do not have to accept His offer for salvation. You can continue to live in sin, the God who gave you life gives you the free will to deny Him and take that path, this is your choice. But for those of us who are called to preach the word, we must preach! Your attacks on us who preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ to anyone and everyone, do us no harm, we are not here to make you our friend, we are here to pronounce to all that Christ is Lord!
Maybe someday when you mature, you might find that Christ is a life abundant and see that your sin is enslaving you, but probably not. "Repent or Perish" words to think about today young lady, you might think you are all knowing, but you are not! Do not make the mistake of thinking more highly of yourself than you should.
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Post by burningnow on Feb 19, 2009 17:06:06 GMT -5
I for one, do not care where you go! I know where you will end up and it is a fitting place for you. You will spend eternity in Hell, that is what you deserve and what you want. So, my question to you is this... why are you posting on this board? For someone such as you who hates God, you know the One don't ya, He is the one who created you and sustains you, the one who is allowing you to breath His air as you read this, the One who has mercy on one such as you. Ah, but you hate Him, you deny Him, you spit in His face with your rebellion. So, once again, no, I for one don't care that you are going to Hell, because when you deny The Living God, you offend all of us that love Him more than we love our very lives. This I know, you will never accept the Lord and what He did for you on the cross, very well, so be it. You do not have to accept His offer for salvation. You can continue to live in sin, the God who gave you life gives you the free will to deny Him and take that path, this is your choice. But for those of us who are called to preach the word, we must preach! Your attacks on us who preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ to anyone and everyone, do us no harm, we are not here to make you our friend, we are here to pronounce to all that Christ is Lord! Maybe someday when you mature, you might find that Christ is a life abundant and see that your sin is enslaving you, but probably not. "Repent or Perish" words to think about today young lady, you might think you are all knowing, but you are not! Do not make the mistake of thinking more highly of yourself than you should. Wow...for someone who can type a wall of text you sure don't say much. Blah blah blah, God made me, blah blah blah, you deny him so you're going to his special place for the bad kids, blah blah blah. Hard to rebel against someone that probably doesn't exist in the first place. Of course, if God came down and actually revealed itself to us, I'd be more inclined to believe in such a being. Until then, please stop wasting your breath on trying to have such an amazing afterlife when you're wasting your mortal life in the process.
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Post by burningnow on Feb 19, 2009 17:10:34 GMT -5
I do believe I asked someone here to prove that such a place exists. Evidence please or shut up about people going to hell.
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Post by christiansoldier on Feb 19, 2009 17:14:18 GMT -5
You don't feel a need to prove it to me? Why not? If you have enough evidence you should be able to tell me in a heartbeat. Then again - its hard to prove that an imaginary land is real. Lol, your arrogance shows. You know no more or less about God than anyone. Of course, if you want to believe you know more about your imaginary friend than everyone else, feel free to do so. Just don't ask why there's a straight jacket on you afterward. you will burn well. my imaginary friend's wrath will pour on you for a eternity. tell him his a figment of my imagination then. go on. prove that there isn't a God. do it. really. come on. i'm waiting. tell me prove how much you think you know. you make me sick. i came to this site to talk about tracting, apologetics and theology. instead i'm arguing with people who have the mental capacity and maturity level of a eight year old. but please, prove to me there is no God. I've only been into apologetics for three years, i'm sure you know more then me because, what? you saw zittergist or the da vincie code?
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Post by boldforchrist on Feb 19, 2009 17:15:37 GMT -5
If I wanted to waste my mortal life, then I would find a message board for something that I profess not to have any interest in, and I would randomly post statements that make me appear foolish. Does that ring a bell? blah blah blah blah.......... is that really how I sound? COOL! Now, this is the time where you are going to reply back something like...... "Oh yeah, well I am smart and you are not, so there" Not buying it sister. Have a nice life!
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Post by burningnow on Feb 19, 2009 17:19:02 GMT -5
You don't feel a need to prove it to me? Why not? If you have enough evidence you should be able to tell me in a heartbeat. Then again - its hard to prove that an imaginary land is real. Lol, your arrogance shows. You know no more or less about God than anyone. Of course, if you want to believe you know more about your imaginary friend than everyone else, feel free to do so. Just don't ask why there's a straight jacket on you afterward. you will burn well. my imaginary friend's wrath will pour on you for a eternity. tell him his a figment of my imagination then. go on. prove that there isn't a God. do it. really. come on. i'm waiting. tell me prove how much you think you know. you make me sick. i came to this site to talk about tracting, apologetics and theology. instead i'm arguing with people who have the mental capacity and maturity level of a eight year old. but please, prove to me there is no God. I've only been into apologetics for three years, i'm sure you know more then me because, what? you saw zittergist or the da vincie code? Unfortunately its impossible to prove or disprove God. Of course God could EASILY win the argument by appearing rather than leaving us to argue over its existence. And please, don't give me the bull that just because I can't disprove God there is a 50/50 chance. Sorry, it just doesn't work that way. Now if you had evidence that would cause you to lean towards belief in a God, please show me. Besides, you believe your supreme being exists. The burden of proof actually lies on you, otherwise it can be defaulted to non-existence.
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Post by Melmoth on Feb 19, 2009 17:19:50 GMT -5
Something like the court system's 'innocent until proven guilty'. There is nothing until you prove there is. I am sitting and talking with Elvis right now, risen from the dead. Prove otherwise.
EDIT: ninja'd...
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Post by burningnow on Feb 19, 2009 17:20:48 GMT -5
If I wanted to waste my mortal life, then I would find a message board for something that I profess not to have any interest in, and I would randomly post statements that make me appear foolish. Does that ring a bell? blah blah blah blah.......... is that really how I sound? COOL! Now, this is the time where you are going to reply back something like...... "Oh yeah, well I am smart and you are not, so there" Not buying it sister. Have a nice life! Mmmm, your tears sustain me. Please continue on. And I'm still looking for evidence people. You who study God and Christ so much should be able to produce it in profuse amounts. And by evidence, I mean something NOT from the Bible. Thanks
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Post by christiansoldier on Feb 19, 2009 17:51:01 GMT -5
Why do you look to humans for evidence of God? Do we owe this to you? We that study, do not study God, we study His Word. If you want evidence then you will have it. You will stand before God on judgment day, it will not matter if you believe in Him or not, you will be face to face with Him. On this day, you will want to deny Him once more, to run away one more time. But you will not be able, you will be frozen in place face to face with God and His wrath. This day will be the day of your evidence and I am sorry to tell you that it will come sooner than you think. God has mercy on many, but not all! So, I am sorry that you will not live for ever. I am sad that you will die in your sins. This is a crucial day in your life, the day that you denied the Living God. I am truly sorry I failed you, forgive me for not being able to show you God. But God can not allow anything wicked to enter His Kingdom. Every second two people die. 144,000 people a day will die. We never know when our second is up! Try to live as long as you can, take good care of yourself and start thinking of what you will say to Him when you meet Him on that horrible day. We are commanded by Christ to share the Gospel with all. You rejected Him. You are no longer my problem.
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Post by burningnow on Feb 19, 2009 17:54:46 GMT -5
Why do you look to humans for evidence of God? Do we owe this to you? We that study, do not study God, we study His Word. If you want evidence then you will have it. You will stand before God on judgment day, it will not matter if you believe in Him or not, you will be face to face with Him. On this day, you will want to deny Him once more, to run away one more time. But you will not be able, you will be frozen in place face to face with God and His wrath. This day will be the day of your evidence and I am sorry to tell you that it will come sooner than you think. God has mercy on many, but not all! So, I am sorry that you will not live for ever. I am sad that you will die in your sins. This is a crucial day in your life, the day that you denied the Living God. I am truly sorry I failed you, forgive me for not being able to show you God. But God can not allow anything wicked to enter His Kingdom. Every second two people die. 144,000 people a day will die. We never know when our second is up! Try to live as long as you can, take good care of yourself and start thinking of what you will say to Him when you meet Him on that horrible day. We are commanded by Christ to share the Gospel with all. You rejected Him. You are no longer my problem. Wow, stop trying to play the fear of death. Yes I'm gonna die. And no, God doesn't exist so where am I going for this supposed Judgement? Yeah, I thought so. I don't buy into the whole faith crap either. I want evidence that your supreme sky god exists in this life thank you. I'm not going to play your sick and twisted Pascal's Wager. If God does exist, it must be a pretty twisted being for leaving us a 2000 year old book (older if you follow the Old Testament too) and leaving us to wonder whether we'll believe it.
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Post by christiansoldier on Feb 19, 2009 18:13:16 GMT -5
You are right, we should not have to come to Christ due to fear of Hell. We should come to Christ because we are thankful for what He has done for us and for the mercy God has shown us. But you do not and will not come to Christ for any reason. Your mortal life is spent trying to lead others to lead a sinful life style and to hate the very God who gave them life. This appears to be a hobby for you, this whole bashing God thing. May I suggest you take up sports or some other hobby. I have heard good things about coin collecting! Believe what you want, it is your free will, you have that freedom. Just as we have our freedom to serve God. We are not commanded to make you believe, we are commanded to tell you about Christ. Since you choose to deny Him, than get on with your life already! You made your decision, now live with it. Unless of course this is your job. Do you get paid a salary for bashing God? Is there health insurance with this job of yours? How are the hours? I have seen so many people just like you over the years, you are not clever, you are not cute, you are not as smart as you think. You are simply getting on my nerves..... and after all, is not that your job! Well done then. In closing, you are simply one more in the millions of sheep who think so highly of yourself that a sheep of your I.Q could never believe in something as silly as a all knowing all seeing God. Make sure you keep in touch, your witty banter impresses me so.
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Post by burningnow on Feb 19, 2009 18:24:09 GMT -5
You are right, we should not have to come to Christ due to fear of Hell. We should come to Christ because we are thankful for what He has done for us and for the mercy God has shown us. But you do not and will not come to Christ for any reason. Your mortal life is spent trying to lead others to lead a sinful life style and to hate the very God who gave them life. This appears to be a hobby for you, this whole bashing God thing. May I suggest you take up sports or some other hobby. I have heard good things about coin collecting! Believe what you want, it is your free will, you have that freedom. Just as we have our freedom to serve God. We are not commanded to make you believe, we are commanded to tell you about Christ. Since you choose to deny Him, than get on with your life already! You made your decision, now live with it. Unless of course this is your job. Do you get paid a salary for bashing God? Is there health insurance with this job of yours? How are the hours? I have seen so many people just like you over the years, you are not clever, you are not cute, you are not as smart as you think. You are simply getting on my nerves..... and after all, is not that your job! Well done then. In closing, you are simply one more in the millions of sheep who think so highly of yourself that a sheep of your I.Q could never believe in something as silly as a all knowing all seeing God. Make sure you keep in touch, your witty banter impresses me so. You can't seem to actually form real paragraphs. I keep reading walls of text and it hurts my eyes so. Did Jesus come down and tell you to do this because it annoys me? I'm quite thankful for being alive but I don't feel the need to attribute it to some imaginary being so that I can be blissfully ignorant about how we came to be. Actually, like any other good scientist I would have ZERO problems coming to Christ if you could simply prove that God actually exists. You have failed to do so as of yet and you feel powerful in your stupidity in thinking that I'm just going to burn in hell anyway so you don't need to prove a thing to me. I've seen so many people like you over the years as well. Some remain brainwashed and some have seen the light and freed themselves from the endless trap that is blind faith. You my friend seem to be a lost cause. Why don't you get a hobby aside from handing out tracts and getting weak-minded people into believing in your sky being?
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Post by christiansoldier on Feb 19, 2009 18:42:05 GMT -5
okay. thanks.
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Post by burningnow on Feb 19, 2009 19:31:04 GMT -5
Amazing, you backed off? I thought I was supposed to see the light of your magic hand from the sky? Guess it isn't here to help you fight the wicked people like me. And you still haven't given me a shred of proof that God/Hell even exists. Care to actually provide evidence or are you so stupid to believe something without any actual proof?
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Post by fs on Feb 19, 2009 22:28:01 GMT -5
It is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment
All have sinned and come short of the glory of God
Remember these things.
Is it God you hate or just the street preachers or specifically certain ones?
Keep your eye on Christ and not man. That includes street preachers.
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Post by fs on Feb 19, 2009 22:46:06 GMT -5
PS, Christian soldier and Bold For Christ, you need to be rebuked. You are NOT helping and NOT being a good witness to the non christian. Your condescending posts play right into this guy's hands. As I have said before, maybe a few of you should take the log out of your own eyes before looking at kopecks in others. You are being rotten witnesses. You are being Pharisees.
Burning now, turn before you really BURN. Repent. But look to God and not man. People will always let you down in the end but God will not.
There are also some very good and loving Christians on this web site . Do not judge everyone by some of the nosiest.
Swallow your pride and repent. At least consider the possibility the Bible may be true, from your end and think of what you risk if it IS!
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Post by christiansoldier on Feb 20, 2009 9:02:16 GMT -5
i'm not trying to be condescending, i just can't stand it when God-hatters like burning start saying things like "imaginary friend" and "sky God" she is spiting in the eye's of God and i can't stand it. dose this bother you too fs? also, burning needs the law, not law and grace. she is obviously not going to change.
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Post by burningnow on Feb 20, 2009 10:57:02 GMT -5
Still waiting on some evidence. *YAWN* You guys are horrible at this.
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Post by christiansoldier on Feb 20, 2009 11:38:35 GMT -5
i have proof. but i'm not giving it to you. you will just deny it. you know what? i don't believe you are real. you are clearly a figment of my imagination. so prove you are real. but i don't what the evidence from you! that would be circular reasoning hey this is the part where you talk about walls of text right? and you reply some thing sarcastic like "oh yeah...well.....sky God....and.....walls....of...text.... and then you put some kind of smiley in right? kinda like that one? oh and you only make a new paragraph when the subject changes. this conversation is over. your not my problem, go play dungeons and dragons, or what ever you do in your spare time.
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Post by burningnow on Feb 20, 2009 12:15:33 GMT -5
You have proof but you're not going to give it to me? Figures. You all say that. OK, sit on your high and mighty poop throne and enjoy the smell while those of us who have figured out that God probably doesn't exist go live life like NORMAL people.
I swear...hyper-religiousness needs to be classified as a mental disorder. If I claimed that God was speaking to me I'd be thrown in the nut house. Of course, in the US we can simply call it religion and get away with whatever we want.
You know, I feel sorry you are stupid enough to believe whatever comes out of the mouth of any preacher rather than actually thinking for yourself. You claim free will but you try to get everyone to follow the supposed word of God. If you're following God of your own free will, have you just given up said free will? And heaven will be one giant slave colony for eternity as your free will is stripped of you. Have fun.
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Post by Kureji on Feb 20, 2009 13:25:33 GMT -5
Okay, I'd just like to point out that you can't prove that something doesn't exist, you can only prove something does exist.
Example: You can't prove that Unicorns don't exist just on the basis that we can't find them, perhaps they exist somewhere unreachable? Though, the moment someone brings forth a Unicorn to show everyone, it has been proven that it exists.
So asking to have Hell or God proven is a valid request.
Asking to prove Hell or God is not real is not a valid request.
The burden is upon the one trying to prove that something is real and always will be.
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Post by Melmoth on Feb 20, 2009 14:47:43 GMT -5
i have proof. but i'm not giving it to you. you will just deny it. That is major-league uncool. You act like you're twelve and just discovered the internet. If you have proof, show it. Either way, stop acting like a kid, and maybe do my eyes a favor by looking through your posts for capitalization and spelling.
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Post by burninglater on Feb 20, 2009 15:39:09 GMT -5
Lawl, so they ban my account. Lucky me I can just make more.
And Christiansoldier, get off your high and mighty r-tard throne. You're just not helping yourself.
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Post by tonyholland on Feb 20, 2009 16:24:36 GMT -5
Universal health care can only exist through three ways. First, universal health care is possible if everyone works hard and earns enough money to pay for it. Second, universal health care is possible if doctors begin to work for free. Third, universal health care is possible if the government steals the money of those who deserve it in order to pay for the health care of those who cannot afford it. It is through the third scenario that socialists in America are planning on legislating universal health care. Ok, you have offered a great deal of rhetoric here, but not a lot of substance on what issues you disagree with. These are the major points of the healthcare plan proposed Make Health Insurance Work for People and Businesses - Not Just Insurance and Drug Companies. You have basically reduced every service that the government has to socialism. Are you in favor of eliminating Medicare/Medicade to the elderly? I'm sure you are against giving food stamps to the single mom without a job....are you saying you support eliminating a program that would allow her children to eat? If one of those kids without healthcare insurance gets hit by a car, are you in favor of letting them die in the street because she does not and will not have the money to pay the medical bill? Do you have healthcare insurance Jesse? If not and God forbid you contracted a disease that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars to pay for.....how are you going to do it? I work for a good company that offers fair healthcare coverage....My contribution is around 300.00 per month for my family. I am blessed to be able to pay this, but for some people that 300.00 a month may be the difference between health insurance and groceries. I would agree that just about every program is abused by some people and I would agree that this is not fair to the taxpayer. On the other hand, there are a good many people that legitimatley and through no fault of their own need the assistance. I have no problem if a buck of the taxes that I pay every couple of weeks goes to make sure some kid is able to get the healthcare that they need. Over the past 7 years nearly a trillion dollars of taxpayer money has been used for a war that at best was unneeded and at worst unjust. Our country is no safer for it (even a good number of Republicans agree with that) and no asked me if that is how I wanted my money spent. At least this healthcare program will benefit some people here at home.
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