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Post by Josh Parsley on May 21, 2008 15:50:51 GMT -5
I had once heard of miracles at a crusade overseas where there were so many sick and malformed people there they couldn't pray for them all, so they instructed people to lay hands on themsleves as they prayed. There are accounts of tumors and growths coming off in people's hands - people walking and being healed. These type of things make a lot more sense to me that someone getting a gold filing. Can anyone think of a miracle in the Bible that was only for show? Or that had absolutely no benefit?
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Post by Josh Parsley on May 21, 2008 14:52:59 GMT -5
Why would God give someone a gold filing?? I'd rather have a new tooth.
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Post by Josh Parsley on May 19, 2008 12:16:50 GMT -5
This was a sad statement. He might as well have said, "Jesse, you atheistic, Christian, Mormon...." It's just a jumbled mess. Arminianism, Pelagianism, and Gnosticism in their purest form aren't even related like that. It's impossible to be a Arminian, Pelagian, and Gnostic.
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Post by Josh Parsley on May 18, 2008 14:00:10 GMT -5
Jesse, put that skull back in your head where it belongs!. Ok, I admit I had to laugh at that one.
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Post by Josh Parsley on May 16, 2008 15:39:48 GMT -5
No. That Rick B. was a 5 point Calvinist. That guy was so dogmatic I don't think he would ever preach with me. I didn't think it was the same, but I wanted to ask to make sure.
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Post by Josh Parsley on May 16, 2008 14:58:28 GMT -5
Great report. Is that the same Rick B that was on here for awhile? I think it's been a couple years ago.
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Post by Josh Parsley on May 15, 2008 17:02:58 GMT -5
Great videos.
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Post by Josh Parsley on May 15, 2008 11:56:15 GMT -5
That's great they are having them over in that part of the world.
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Post by Josh Parsley on May 13, 2008 17:40:10 GMT -5
I've never heard of it until now.
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Post by Josh Parsley on May 9, 2008 19:05:25 GMT -5
Dale,
There are people in Mexico that do the same thing we do here.
It's not limited to gringos.
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Post by Josh Parsley on May 9, 2008 17:33:55 GMT -5
Say, when you are down there nd want to street preach, here's what you want to say. This is how you say "You all need Jesus" in Spanish.... "Hola. Soy un chiflado y soy buscando por... Oh never mind, Jesse, I don't have the heart to do it to you. What I was going to type out didn't really translate into "You all need Jesus." Shame on you Dale for even thinking about it. Usted necesita arrepentirse y creer el evangelio.
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Post by Josh Parsley on May 9, 2008 9:16:10 GMT -5
whoops sorry I didn't think anyone read that. I seen what you were talking about and deleted the post.
To save confusion this is what I wrote originally:
What do you mean by the atonement? Are you saying that our obedience is worth more than the cross?
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Post by Josh Parsley on May 7, 2008 9:23:13 GMT -5
Letter 'To God' part of church shooting investigative report COLORADO SPRINGS - It is a 450-page report by Colorado Springs Police with pictures of weapons used to kill four people and a detailed timeline of where gunman Matthew Murray was and when. The report was released by Colorado Springs police on Wednesday. In the report, Murray's demeanor was described by various witnesses as "casual," "not panicked." He "walked" to the New Life Church in Colorado Springs after killing two sisters in the parking lot. In a letter "To God," Murray asks: "What have I done so wrong? What is wrong with me anyway? Am I really such a bad person?" Click here to read a copy of the handwritten letter. www.9news.com/pdfs/Letter_To_God.pdfIt is a hand-printed one-and-a-half page letter that asks for help, curses God and Jesus and asks "who the real Christians are?" "Am I too lost to be saved?" he asks toward the end of his letter. "I wish I knew the truth." "It's a call for action," said family friend Casey Nikoloric who has been a spokesperson for the Murray family. The Murray family has seen the report, she says, and are out of town this week. "They are saddened" by the content of the report. New information revealed in the report includes five syringes found in Murray's bedroom that contained an unknown liquid. It was later analyzed by the FDA and found to be an herbal substance, that when injected, would make a person violently ill. Also new, was the fact that a box of bullets was mailed to Matthew Murray at his home. They were intercepted by his parents who confronted him about them. Nikoloric says Murray told his parents he ordered the bullets "because he was going hunting with friend." "Had they had any idea that Matthew was capable and intending to harm himself and others, this surely and obviously would have been some sort of red flag," said Nikoloric. "They had no reason to believe this box was anything other than what he described." Colorado Springs Police interviewed several dozen witnesses one of whom said Murray looked straight at her after shooting someone. His gun was at an angle, not pointed at her. She didn't think he was going to shoot her and he didn't. On Dec. 9, just after midnight, Murray showed up at the Youth With A Mission center with a handgun after he had asked to spend the night and been told no. Murray had previously gone there for training. On his return, he shot and killed two people. Approximately 12 hours later, Murray went to the New Life Church in Colorado Springs. He walked into the parking lot and shot and killed two sisters. In between the two shootings, he returned home, went online to some church-related chat sites, slept in his own bed and visited with his mother, who assumed he was going to attend church services when he left for his killing spree in Colorado Springs. Stepahanie and Rachael Works of Colorado Springs were killed. Their father David was shot twice, but survived. The two people killed in Arvada were Tiffany Johnson and Phillip Crouse. www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=87999
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Post by Josh Parsley on May 6, 2008 9:57:21 GMT -5
If they have left, I would just keep preaching. That is unless the other person needed medical help.
If they stuck around, I would move to a different location. Or just keep preaching. Most of the time when someone has been violent around me it doesn't take very long before a "good ol boy" gets mad and takes up for me.
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Post by Josh Parsley on May 3, 2008 7:30:47 GMT -5
That's great to hear brother. Those prayers and labors really are used of God even if we feel as though they aren't. Thanks for the reminder.
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Post by Josh Parsley on Apr 29, 2008 14:33:53 GMT -5
Amen.
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Post by Josh Parsley on Apr 29, 2008 14:17:05 GMT -5
The problem with your logic is that there are people who have been to seminary that have come to the same conclusions Jesse has. Pick a doctrine of Jesse's that you don't like and I am almost 100% sure you can find a person who has a doctorate that holds that same position. Pick a Calvinist doctrine and you can do the same. There are several things I don't agree with Jesse on, but I don't think the reason he disagrees with me is because he is ignorant. I guess it's possible, but I really doubt it. You act as if he was "really" educated he would agree with....who?...you?
It's funny I even feel like I need to take this position. I am actually a strong supporter of Christian education. I also know there are lots of people who have been to seminary for years who know absolutely nothing about Christian ministry. Education without God is a fraud.
This example doesn't work. It's impossible for you to show that Titus and Timothy were under the same structure of a modern seminary. There is no reason to think that Titus and Timothy went and got a bachelors degree then went to seminary before they taught any doctrine. It could be argued that the education you are promoting would cause people to sin. How? Because you will be in debt after all those years. Do you think God is commanding some to be in debt? Do you know of any where someone can get a free bachelors (since you need one to enroll in most seminaries) and then graduate seminary for free? Titus and Timothy probably didn't have to pay Paul tuition...
By the way, I'm not convinced it's sinful to go to college even though you will probably have to pay off loans. I'm actually paying off loans from from my degree now. I was just saying what I did to show a point.
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Post by Josh Parsley on Apr 28, 2008 12:54:50 GMT -5
Maybe Jesse should go. And maybe I should go too, but having a degree isn't a requirement to talk about theology. If Jesse went, he could preach on campus in between classes. Maybe some people could be born again.
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Post by Josh Parsley on Apr 28, 2008 12:46:10 GMT -5
John,
Have you been in seminary? If not, maybe you're just not educated enough to understand the issues they are discussing. It may be best that you don't comment on this because if you haven't been to seminary you're probably just plain ignorant. Please don't embarrass yourself any longer.
Now, let me say, I'm not being serious. I just want to show you how silly and rude it sounds for you to keep saying that Jesse needs to go to seminary. What I just said is basically what you are inferring every time you tell him that.
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Post by Josh Parsley on Apr 21, 2008 13:46:56 GMT -5
I did not want to go to Fayettville because Gary Bowman has done such a great job of covering that campus. I want to preach on campuses that do not get preached at much. After I left Central Arkansas my wife and I saw a video on youtube about campus preachers. As we looked closer we recognized the campus as being University of Central Arkansas. It was posted a few days before we arrived. Apparently there is a group who regularly preaches here and holds up pictures of aborted babies. That makes sense. I didn't know exactly how much Gary Bowman comes to campus. If you come through Arkansas again, let me know. Maybe I can get off work and come support. I went down to Little Rock last year with Miles, Eli, and Evan. We also went to Conway, but I remember UALR (U of Ark. at Little Rock) being a good campus. I don't know how much preaching they get there.
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Post by Josh Parsley on Apr 21, 2008 11:30:35 GMT -5
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Post by Josh Parsley on Apr 21, 2008 8:46:20 GMT -5
Here is an interesting blog post I seen that talks about the different views of sovereignty: 1. Meticulous sovereignty: God is the instrumental cause behind every action and reaction there has ever been. In other words, you chose white socks instead of the black socks because God caused it to happen. You have an itch on your eyebrow right now because God is actively causing it. In other words, every molecule that bounces into another is a result of God active agency in being the first and instrumental cause to the action.
This position holds little or no tension with regards to the human will and the divine will.
God is actively controlling everything.Â
Adherents: Hyper-Calvinists and some Calvinists
2. Providential sovereignty: While God is bringing about his will in everything (Eph 1:11), his will is not the instrumental cause of all that happens. God’s will plays a providential role in “causing” all things. In other words, all that happens happens because God did in some sense will it, but secondary causes are usually the instrumental cause behind the action. In the case of your socks, you chose them because you decided to, but it was also part of God’s will.  God allows evil as it is part of his imperfect will to bring about a perfect end, but he is not the instrumental cause of evil.
This position holds much tension with regards to human will and divine will.
God is in control of everything.
Adherents: Calvinists and some Arminians
3. Providential oversight: Here God’s sovereignty is more of an oversight. He has a general plan, but is not married to the details. When necessary, God will intervene in the affairs of humanity to bring about his purpose, but this does not necessarily involve an intimate engagement with all that happens. God does not care what color socks you pick unless it somehow effects his meta plan.
This position holds much tension with regards to human will and divine will.
God could control everything, but only controls some things.
Adherents: Arminians and some Calvinists
4. Influential oversight: Here God’s sovereignty is self-limited. God could control things, but to preserve human freedom, he will not intervene in the affairs of men to the degree that the human will is decisively bent in one direction or another. He is hopeful that his influence will be persuasive to change a person’s heart or to guide them to his will, but is not sure if this will happen. Being all-wise, however, God will make strategic moves in people’s lives that will manipulate the situation to his advantage.
This position holds little or no tension with regards to the human will and the divine will.
God could control everything, but decides only to influence.
Adherents: Open Theist Arminians and some Arminians www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2008/04/18/what-do-you-mean-god-is-sovereign-four-options/
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Post by Josh Parsley on Apr 21, 2008 8:44:58 GMT -5
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Post by Josh Parsley on Apr 21, 2008 8:41:50 GMT -5
[Middle English, from Old English pāpa, from Late Latin, from Latin, father (title of bishops), from Greek pappās; see papa in Indo-European roots.] dictionary.reference.com/browse/pope
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Post by Josh Parsley on Apr 17, 2008 20:39:14 GMT -5
Well, I guess the Dan Wallace thing got canceled tonight. THey are having a tornado warning in their area.
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Post by Josh Parsley on Apr 17, 2008 18:15:44 GMT -5
Are you still in Arkansas? Let me know if you come towards North West Arkansas. Fayetteville has a large campus.
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Post by Josh Parsley on Apr 17, 2008 12:45:12 GMT -5
I just got an e-mail about Dan Wallace. He is going to be on a program called "converse with scholars." It's an online interview for about an hour, then 30 minutes of time where you can ask him questions. If anyone has a question that they want to ask him, this is the place to do it. Here is the topic tonight: Guest: Dan Wallace Time: 10pm EST Place: Online, Paltalk Subject: Dethroning Jesus Related Book: Dethroning Jesus Overview: There is a quest going on. It's the quest to reduce Jesus to a mythic legend or to nothing more than a mere man. Scholars such as Elaine Pagels and James Tabor are using such recent discoveries as the Gospel of Judas and the Gospel of Thomas to argue that the Christ of Christianity is a contrived figure and that a different Christ-one human and not divine-is the "true" Christ. Join us as we discuss these issue with professor and author, Dr. Daniel B. Wallace. Just in cast you don't already know how to join: www.reclaimingthemind.org/online-sessions
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Post by Josh Parsley on Apr 17, 2008 10:33:30 GMT -5
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Post by Josh Parsley on Apr 16, 2008 10:28:43 GMT -5
I don't have a bible here to be able to thumb through everything and it's kind of hard to look at this just on a computer, but here is something I want to throw out.
In John 6, we have Jesus feeding the 5 thousand. About a day later this he mentions Judas being a devil. If we look at Luke's gospel we see this account of the 5 thousand happens in chapter 9. So, just days after Jesus sent out the 12 (Luke 9:1) Judas was a devil? In chapter 10, we have the 70 sent out.
So, if Jesus said that Judas was a devil a day after the feeding of the 5 thousand (Luke 9) then everything post Luke 9 is when Judas was unquestionably not a convert. What do we do with this information?
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Post by Josh Parsley on Apr 16, 2008 9:13:06 GMT -5
From what I know, the "Sups" say that man never had free will because God decreed the fall. The "Infras" say that Adam did have free will but lost it at the fall. Rather than decreeing the fall, God reacted to it by "the election." One says the doctrine of free will was true at one time, but now it isn't. The other says there has never been free will.
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