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Post by miche on Jun 13, 2009 1:27:05 GMT -5
This just makes sense to me. So what seems to be the big hangup for non-calvinists when it comes to this governmental view of the atonement(is that what you would call it?)? I don't see what the problem is.
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Post by miche on Jun 7, 2009 14:35:46 GMT -5
Dear Kureji, the godly woman isn't confined to the kitchen but has liberty in Christ Jesus to do good and that can be done even on inter-webs. That said, if I had children and a husband, I would make caring for their needs a priority before time spent on internet. By the way, I have a pot roast in the slow-cooker right now. I am thankful that modern technology does free up time to spend outside of the kitchen.
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Post by miche on Jun 4, 2009 21:06:09 GMT -5
Are there any Christian women on this board?
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Post by miche on Jun 4, 2009 20:54:51 GMT -5
Who lives on the West Coast?
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Post by miche on Jun 4, 2009 20:32:32 GMT -5
How is your mother doing now, Aaron?
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Post by miche on May 10, 2009 22:54:55 GMT -5
I'd never seen any of his videos before on Youtube until now. This was a really good video presentation he made particularly for getting an atheist to reconsider his folly. He's a Persuasive young man. I'm glad I got to see it right before it also got pulled. I'll definitely be praying for him, his ministry, and his family. This must be a difficult time for our brother. I pray for the Lord's grace and peace for him and pray that this situation and their son's testimony might be used to open his parent's eyes to the truth of Jesus Christ that they might also be converted to Him! I sure am hoping we'll see more of our zealous brother in the future. I pray this intimidation will not discourage his desire for doing good/doing the will of his Father in heaven and from answering the call of God on his life. Please send me a message if you hear any new news about this brother or if you see his videos go back up. ~Michelle
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Post by miche on Apr 10, 2009 0:14:36 GMT -5
I just read an article that mentioned that. It also said he didn't bow to Queen Elizabeth. Does anybody know what the typical protocol is for the President of the United States in these situations?
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Post by miche on Mar 30, 2009 3:33:11 GMT -5
I thank the Lord for your good witness to these sinners in Tyler! It's encouraging to hear they still have tender consciences. Oh how I pray that they will yield under the Holy Spirit's conviction and repent and believe the truth they heard clearly that night! Do you live there or are you just traveling through, Jeffrey?
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Post by miche on Mar 9, 2009 2:04:12 GMT -5
I will pray for this man. I thank the Lord for him and bless him for his willingness to support the gospel going forth. I wish I could tell him(or remind him) about James 5:14-16 if he does end up being very ill. Maybe you might? If it were me I would probably tell him to go to the godliest/most mature Christian men he knows (hopefully those would be the elders of his church)and ask them if they would pray that he might be healed. I would encourage him to do that with this scripture passage in particular.
James 5:14-16 Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord.
And the prayer of faith will save the sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven.
Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much.
And if he isn't saved, his healing if he did go to Christian's for their God's help, could be directly accredited to God's mercy and he might be won over!
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Post by miche on Mar 9, 2009 0:54:49 GMT -5
I'm meeting with that young woman today to explain the true gospel to her. I ask that you would pray for me and for her. (she's the girl who says she wants to know God more yet is fornicating with her boyfriend and is trying to quit smoking marijauna while pregnant) She actually said she wants to have Christian spiritual instruction. I don't know if she realizes what that all entails though. I praise God for this good opportunity. Please pray that I will be ready with God's word with all wisdom and with His Spirit. (And whatever else the Holy Spirit would lead you to pray)Please pray for her too. ~Michelle
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Post by miche on Mar 6, 2009 22:26:58 GMT -5
If someone is "twice dead", is there no hope for them? no room for repentance? Are they lost forever? I look forward to hearing your views. Jude 1:12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; Bumping this up for some answers to Bounbough's questions.
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Post by miche on Mar 6, 2009 22:16:12 GMT -5
Very interesting research Tony1984! Thanks for sharing with us!
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Post by miche on Mar 6, 2009 21:07:51 GMT -5
"I know people get freaked out when you mention demons but like it or not if we have anything that is not of God it is demonic. Just driving in your car and getting angry at another person is a demonic influence.
Christians including myself can be so careless and we need to be aware constantly what kind of spirit we are of."
Amen, Rebecca! So true. Good advice!
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Post by miche on Mar 6, 2009 0:25:28 GMT -5
I would like prayer for myself and a young pregnant woman that I will be meeting with weekly (Mondays) to council. This will be my first client that I am scheduled to regularly meet with who desires to have spiritual instruction. She claims she is a Christian and says she wants to "get closer with God". This Monday I will (plan to anyway)be laying the gospel out for her and addressing the sin of her current fornication(no intent to marry or discontinue her sexually immoral relationship)with her agnostic boyfriend.
Please also pray for her addiction to marijuana. She says she feels very addicted to it and she hasn't completely quit yet though she is trying. She is about 9 weeks pregnant.
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Post by miche on Mar 5, 2009 23:22:03 GMT -5
Godly wisdom needed.
Debonnair's answers above seem pretty good to me as a general guideline. What do you think, guys? I would be interested in how others would reply to BenJoseph's questions(the other ones up there too). And I'm sure BenJoseph would appreciate more replies as this seems to be weighing very heavy on his heart.
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Post by miche on Mar 5, 2009 20:43:20 GMT -5
That's great Rebecca! I pray that your ministry will be a great blessing bringing praise to our God because of you and bringing many into the kingdom! I thank the Lord for your godly example and the image of Christ in you.
P.S. So do you have key bible passages you particularly like to read from when you are out in the world?
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Post by miche on Mar 5, 2009 19:28:33 GMT -5
I just now read your last 2 posts FS. That is very bad news! I think you should talk to your Pastor quickly. Perhaps he could convince her not to do this. This is a life or death situation. Just like if she were suicidal it would be right and very important to tell someone that might be able to help her. I will be praying about this. Please don't give up just yet. This baby's life might yet be spared and this girl from this sin and it's consequences. James 5:20 let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins.
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Post by miche on Feb 26, 2009 0:15:46 GMT -5
What a great testimony, openairforce! God is so good!
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Post by miche on Feb 25, 2009 21:18:34 GMT -5
Great posts you put up, Rebecca. Thanks.
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Post by miche on Feb 25, 2009 20:54:07 GMT -5
I always enjoy reading your testimonies Micah! God bless you and Elizabeth and your ministry!
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Post by miche on Feb 25, 2009 20:23:41 GMT -5
Micah, haven't you met Christians obviously full of the Holy-Spirit that claim they have never spoken in tongues? Personally, I do speak in tongues, but I absolutely KNOW without a doubt that just because someone does not speak in tongues(or they claim they never have) does not mean they do not have the anointing of the Holy Spirit on them. I've witnessed it myself. My spirit has borne witness (I could clearly discern) to non-tongues speaking Christians who were definitely under the anointing of the Holy Spirit. Are you really denying that they have an annointing on them because they haven't spoken in tongues first? I guess there's always the chance that they just don't know that they have spoken in tongues already... There are a lot of great men and women of God who were definitely annointed with the Holy Spirit throughout history that would claim they never spoke in tongues I think. I'm curious to hear how you would respond to this.
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Post by miche on Feb 25, 2009 18:18:27 GMT -5
Yes I second the advice about Pregnancy Care Centers. I'm a client advocate at one in Oregon. (Just make extra sure you don't accidentally send her to a Planned Parenthood clinic!) They are an excellent resource for help. I don't know what they have in your area, but I bet you have one not too far off. I will pray be praying for you guys tonight.
I also want to mention that many Pregnancy Care Centers have Post-abortion counseling in addition to their many services to pregnant women and women with children (and other services like purity classes and classes geared toward fathers).
I know that the Pregnancy Care Centers around here are very careful who they take on as client advocates and teachers. (To even do simple bookkeeping for them you have to sign a statement of faith and answer correctly specific questions about what they believe and how they conduct their life!) I don't know what the PCCenters are like around there, but it might be worth checking out what they offer and finding out who their good client advocates or teachers are. So that you can confidently refer women that you meet that are in need to them. And hopefully to a good Christian councilor.
P.S. We don't have any Catholic client advocates or teachers at my center but thats one good reason to look into your local staff a little. Yes a Catholic client advocate might be excellent at part of her job, but when it comes to the actual spiritual ministry aspect, I just don't see them cutting it.
Do let us know how we can pray after you meet with this young woman.
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Post by miche on Jan 30, 2009 11:51:53 GMT -5
This seemed like a good post to me that I came across recently (Just for clarity: note that he didn't say that the so called "Golden Rule" is the Narrow Gate and Difficult Way. Just that it plays a big part in it. Obviously JESUS made it clear that He is the Gate and the Way. ) ...http://www.christian-faith.com/forjesus/blog/michael
The so-called "Golden Rule" is actually found in Jesus' Sermon on the Mount, in Matthew 7:12.
"Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets."
The very next verses say:
"Enter by the Narrow Gate, for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because Narrow is the Gate and Difficult is the Way which leads to life, and there are few who find it." (Matthew 7:13,14)
I wonder if these verses, which are usually separated by human headings such as "The Narrow Way" in our modern Bibles - are actually meant to be read together, after all. What if the application of the Golden Rule forms a huge part of the meaning of the "Difficult Way which leads to Life" as taught by Jesus?
It makes sense inasmuch as there are FEW who practice or at least consistently SEEK to practice what is written in Matthew 7:12. Most people read it as "don't do anything to others you don't want them to do to you" - but that is NOT what it says. Pagan religious teachers have used THOSE words - but Jesus' teaching tells us to actually DO something. We are here commanded to DO for others what we would like them to do for us.How many are taking THAT seriously? How many are "hearing this saying of Jesus and doing it" (Matthew 7:24) and thus "building their house upon the rock"?
I am trying to think of what Matthew 7:12 might actually mean in my life. I suppose it means something different for everybody, because everybody has different things they would like people to do for them.
But based on what I know, or what I feel to be important in my life, I would say that I would like people to fast, pray and speak the Word of God for my breakthroughs in life. I'd love someone to minister to me either in person or from a distance, and by their faith and Holy Spirit given wisdom, get me free from demonic harassment and into a place of faith and favor with God. To teach me exactly in exactly the way I need how I can do the will of God fully. Wouldn't that be great? Well, if that is what I want men to do to me, then doesn't Jesus command me to do all those things for others?
Wouldn't that mean laying down my life for others, and their welfare? I think it would.
It would mean living out of this incredible "agape" love which would always be willing to forsake personal comfort in order to bring relief, freedom, healing and salvation to others, wherever possible.
It wouldn't leave me a lot of room to waste time on things that are nothing but sources of personal pleasure or entertainment for me.
Hmmm, something to think about.
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Post by miche on Jan 28, 2009 16:05:43 GMT -5
Thank you and God bless you Joel for going out to deliver the truth to those folks! Yeah, there were probably lots of religious people there, but they need to be warned just as much as the blatantly immoral. I'm so glad you recognized that! ~Michelle
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Post by miche on Jan 24, 2009 23:22:50 GMT -5
This is a continuation of the abortion and life begins at conception discussion that began over on Jesse's "Obamanation" thread I'll copy paste the pertinent parts of the discussion that was written there.
FS-- I was not for Obama at first, but this sounds great now that I look at it. More power to him. I am glad he is President and not some of the street preachers. That is why God purr Obama in a position of authority. Again, this sounds great to me.
MICHE--Fs, surely you agree that homosexuality is a sin right? Do you understand that abortion(stem cell research includes aborting life too) is murder in God's eyes? Even worse is that it is murder of an innocent human being. Public schools and Planned Parenthood have lied saying that a fertilized egg is just a mass of cells....but God says that is a human being that he created Himself. See for yourself what God thinks about these issues:
Abortion
Jeremiah 1:5 "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you; Before you were born I sanctified you; I ordained you a prophet to the nations."
Luke 1:41 And it happened, when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, that the babe leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. {the term fetus may confuse some people, but the truth is that it's a live baby in there whose life needs to be nurtured and protected.}
Psalm 139:13 For You formed my inward parts; You covered me in my mother's womb. I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made; Marvelous are Your works, And that my soul knows very well. My frame was not hidden from You, When I was made in secret, And skillfully wrought in the lowest parts of the earth. Your eyes saw my substance, being yet unformed. And in Your book they all were written, The days fashioned for me, When as yet there were none of them.
Psalm 106:35-39 But they mingled with the Gentiles And learned their works; They served their idols, Which became a snare to them. They even sacrificed their sons And their daughters to demons, And shed innocent blood, The blood of their sons and daughters, Whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan; And the land was polluted with blood. Thus they were defiled by their own works, And played the harlot by their own deeds.
God’s own finger writes in stone the commandment "Thou shalt not kill" (Exodus 20:13, Deuteronomy 5:17) and Christ reaffirms it (Matthew 19:18). The Book of Revelation affirms that (unrepentant) murderers cannot enter the kingdom of heaven (Revelation 22:15).
Homosexuality
1Corinthians 6:9-10 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites[homosexuals], nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Timothy 1:9-10 Knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous person, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and for sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, for fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and if there is any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine,
Jude 1:7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Jude 1:8 Likewise also these dreamers defile the flesh, reject authority, and speak evil of dignitaries.
Leviticus 18:22 'You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination.
1Corinthians 6:18 24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; 32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them. (meaning that we better not be found approving of what they are doing!)
......President Barak Obama should have the honor due him as well as the Christian's prayers but he certainly should not have the Christian's approval because of the sin he so flagrantly promotes.
I hope you might rethink your position, Fs, in light of God's word. ~Michelle
RHEMA SEEKER--AMEN MICHE My boss who surely is not a Christian was against Obama in the beginning because of his views on abortion. So I was pleased to know this. But then yesterday at work, my boss was telling me after hearing Obama speak at his inauguration that he thought he would be the man for the job. It sickens me that people, especially so called Christians could look past the evil this man stands for because of what their wallet and bank account is telling them. Is not what this is written concerning the Antichrist will do. Promise people a prosperous life here on earth. Shame on you FS
FS-- Sorry, but I am strongly in favor of a right to choose. Too many of my fellow Christians are too concerned over the unborn as opposed to the already living. I do not believe life starts at conception.
DEBONNAIRE--Isn't the foetus living in the bossom of his mother ? How could one call him an unborn thing , and not a living human being ? What is the difference between the moment the foetus is inside her mother, and the few hours later when he is out ? isn't he the same being ? Of course he is , the only difference is that he is now a few hours older and is in a different environment.
So a baby isn't born only when he is outside the womb, when only he is 'visible' to the world. So when is he born ? At one day after conception, , two weeks after , at 3 months after perhaps... The only good sense says he is born at conception.
If someone has no pity on the weakest and more fragile of human beings, how can we trust such a one to have mercy with the others?
BROPATOC-- God hates "hands that shed innocent blood" (see Pr 6:16-17 KJV).
Think about it.
RHEMA SEEKER-- Its not if we believe if a fetus is living or not. It is what God says it is. And according to scripture which is put on this thread, HE SAYS IT IS LIVING BEING. And very precious in HIS EYES. So FS your point of view does not matter. It is only GOD'S POINT that matters.
FS-- Could you all get a tad more condescending, people?
Sorry brothers, but you act like abortion is the ONLY issue to worry about, along with gay rights. I dreaded Mr.Obama coming to power, but in hsi few days in office he has already done much to restore person freedom, counter governmental spying and get this country back on track. I will ut him some slack right now on the abortion and gay rights issues as there are, I think, far more pressing issues at hand right now.
I almost wish now that I would have voted for him.
MICHE-- What (and who) has convinced you that life doesn't start at conception, FS? (I'm not being sarcastic. It's an honest question.) I don't understand why you would believe that when God makes it clear in his Word that He creates a living human being in a woman's womb. Current science doesn't even disprove that life begins at conception.
Come, let us reason about this. I think it might be good to look at more scriptures concerning this subject matter(for or against it). I will try to get together some more for my side(please gather any that might support your theory). I would urge you to realize that having the wrong belief could have MAJOR implications here. Human life and Salvation could be at stake for people, FS, if you are wrong. It's not something to just casually sweep under the rug.
You do want the truth don't you? I know I do. God has had to change my mind about a lot of things at different times. I'm not ashamed of that even if it does make me look inconsistent; I'd rather have the truth than appear consistent. But instead, gladly will I humble myself in the light of the revelation of God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ that I might be made wise and righteous in the Lord's sight!
Unless you are absolutely unbudgable against the possibility that God sees a baby in the womb(sorry I just can't call a growing baby a blob of tissue) as a human life in whom we are obligated to do good to and not harm then will you please consider that re-examining this issue closely is VERY worthwhile and important?
I don't know how much you have sought this particular matter out with the Lord, but God's truth is what matters here, right? So those who want to follow Christ need to be truth seekers. They can no longer be satisfied with what they have learned themselves. They need to be willing to lay aside all preconceived notions to seek out the truth and when they do discover it they must be willing to give up the false even if it is uncomfortable to do so. This is just good godly advice for everyone.
I don't know why you have come to deny that a mother ending the life of her own child for her convenience is a sin. At one point I believe that you did call it sin, didn't you? What about homosexuality? What is your current belief about that practice?(I will not assume here that is why I ask) I can see that the deceiver has been planting lies that you have received FS. In love I point this out to you. I'm concerned for you. These beliefs can't be from God.
You might be thinking, "how arrogant, how proud she is to be so sure that I am wrong and she is right!" But if I have had a revelation that I am certain is truly from God, should I not be confident enough to boast and try to convince? Not in boasting that I have had a revelation from God, but that I should only naturally boast about the Lord in truth! And so I must correct those who might listen and openly boast that my God creates and gives life to human beings at the moment of conception just as His Word declares! Hallelujah! It's really a wonderful thing...I have to give him praise for the miracle of life!
I don't want to take up any more space on Jesse's Obamanation thread(that wordplay is pretty funny by the way, Jesse!) with the more specific topic of abortion, so I would like to continue this topic of discussion on a new thread. I realize that you said you don't see it as important, but I would have to appeal to you that in fact it is. I will start up a new thread under Abortion and write more when I can.
~Michelle P.S. Rhema Seeker, debonnaire, BroPatOC-- excellent points you made, brothers.
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Post by miche on Jan 24, 2009 19:16:06 GMT -5
What (and who) has convinced you that life doesn't start at conception, FS? (I'm not being sarcastic. It's an honest question.) I don't understand why you would believe that when God makes it clear in his Word that He creates a living human being in a woman's womb. Current science doesn't even disprove that life begins at conception.
Come, let us reason about this. I think it might be good to look at more scriptures concerning this subject matter(for or against it). I will try to get together some more for my side(please gather any that might support your theory). I would urge you to realize that having the wrong belief could have MAJOR implications here. Human life and Salvation could be at stake for people, FS, if you are wrong. It's not something to just casually sweep under the rug.
You do want the truth don't you? I know I do. God has had to change my mind about a lot of things at different times. I'm not ashamed of that even if it does make me look inconsistent; I'd rather have the truth than appear consistent. But instead, gladly will I humble myself in the light of the revelation of God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ that I might be made wise and righteous in the Lord's sight!
Unless you are absolutely unbudgable against the possibility that God sees a baby in the womb(sorry I just can't call a growing baby a blob of tissue) as a human life in whom we are obligated to do good to and not harm then will you please consider that re-examining this issue closely is VERY worthwhile and important?
I don't know how much you have sought this particular matter out with the Lord, but God's truth is what matters here, right? So those who want to follow Christ need to be truth seekers. They can no longer be satisfied with what they have learned themselves. They need to be willing to lay aside all preconceived notions to seek out the truth and when they do discover it they must be willing to give up the false even if it is uncomfortable to do so. This is just good godly advice for everyone.
I don't know why you have come to deny that a mother ending the life of her own child for her convenience is a sin. At one point I believe that you did call it sin, didn't you? What about homosexuality? What is your current belief about that practice?(I will not assume here that is why I ask) I can see that the deceiver has been planting lies that you have received FS. In love I point this out to you. I'm concerned for you. These beliefs can't be from God.
You might be thinking, "how arrogant, how proud she is to be so sure that I am wrong and she is right!" But if I have had a revelation that I am certain is truly from God, should I not be confident enough to boast and try to convince? Not in boasting that I have had a revelation from God, but that I should only naturally boast about the Lord in truth! And so I must correct those who might listen and openly boast that my God creates and gives life to human beings at the moment of conception just as His Word declares! Hallelujah! It's really a wonderful thing...I have to give him praise for the miracle of life!
I don't want to take up any more space on Jesse's Obamanation thread(that wordplay is pretty funny by the way, Jesse!) with the more specific topic of abortion, so I would like to continue this topic of discussion on a new thread. I realize that you said you don't see it as important, but I would have to appeal to you that in fact it is. I will start up a new thread under Abortion and write more when I can.
~Michelle P.S. Rhema Seeker, debonnaire, BroPatOC-- excellent points you made, brothers.
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Post by miche on Jan 24, 2009 13:59:46 GMT -5
Saw this prayer on a blog. It's by Albert Mohler.
A Prayer For President Obama
Our Father, Lord of all creation, Father of our Lord Jesus Christ: We pray today with a sense of special urgency and responsibility. We come before you to pray for our new President, Barack Obama, and for all those in this new administration who now assume roles of such high responsibility.
We know that you and you alone are sovereign; that you rule over all, and that you alone are able to keep and defend us. We know that our times are in your hands, and that "the king's heart is like channels of water in the hand of the Lord" [Proverbs 21:1]. Our confidence is in you and in you alone. We come before you as a people who acknowledge our constant need for your provision, wisdom, and protection.
Father, we pray today for Barack Obama as he takes office as President of the United States. We pray that you will show the glory of your name in our times and in these days, confounding the wisdom of the wise, thwarting the plans of the arrogant, and vindicating those who do justice and practice righteousness.
Father, we pray with thanksgiving for the gift of government and the grace of civic order. Thank you for giving us rulers and for knowing our need for laws and ordered life together. Thank you for this nation and the blessings we know as its citizens. Thank you for freedoms unprecedented in human history. We understand that these freedoms come with unprecedented opportunities.
Lord, we pray with thanksgiving for the joy and celebration reflected on millions of faces who never expected to look to the President of the United States and see a person who looks like themselves. Father, thank you for preserving this nation to the moment when an African-American citizen will take the oath of office and become our President. Thank you for the hope this has given to so many, the pride emerging in hearts that had known no such hope, and the pride that comes to a people who have experienced such pain at the hands of fellow citizens, simply because of the color of their skin. Father, we rejoice in every elderly face that reflects such long-sought satisfaction and in every young face that expresses such unrestrained joy. May this become an open door for a vision of race and human dignity that reflects your glory in our differences, and not our corruption of your gift.
Father, protect this president, we pray. We pray that you will surround this president and his family, along with all our leaders, with your protection and sustenance. May he be protected from evil acts and evil intentions, and may his family be protected from all evil and harm.
We pray that the Obama family will be drawn together as they move into the White House, and that they will know great joy in their family life. We are thankful for the example Barack and Michelle Obama have set as parents. Father, protect those precious girls in every way -- including the protection of their hearts as they see their father often criticized and as he is away from them on business of state. May their years in the White House bring them all even closer together.
Father, we pray for the safety and security of this nation, even as our new president settles into his role as Commander in Chief. We know that you and you alone can be our defense. We do not place our trust in horses or chariots, and we pray that you will give this president wisdom as he fulfills this vital responsibility.
Father, grant him wisdom in every dimension of his vast responsibility. Grant him wisdom to deal with a global financial crisis and with the swirling complex of vexing problems and challenges at home and abroad. May he inspire this nation to a higher vision for our common life together, to a higher standard of justice, righteousness, unity, and the tasks of citizenship.
Father, we pray that you will change this president's heart and mind on issues of urgent concern. We are so thankful for his gifts and talents, for his intellect and power of influence. Father, bend his heart to see the dignity and sanctity of every single human life, from the moment of conception until natural death. Father, lead him to see abortion, not as a matter of misconstrued rights, but as a murderous violation of the right to life. May he come to see every aborted life as a violation of human dignity and every abortion as an abhorrent blight upon this nation's moral witness. May he pledge himself to protect every human life at every stage of development. He has declared himself as an energetic defender of abortion rights, and we fear that his election will lead directly to the deaths of countless unborn human beings. Protect us from this unspeakable evil, we pray. Most urgently, we pray that you will bring the reign of abortion to an end, even as you are the defender of the defenseless.
Father, may this new president see that human dignity is undermined when human embryos are destroyed in the name of medical progress, and may he see marriage as an institution that is vital to the very survival of civilization. May he protect all that is right and good. Father, change his heart where it must be changed, and give him resolve where his heart is right before you.
Father, when we face hard days ahead -- when we find ourselves required by conscience to oppose this president within the bounds of our roles as citizens -- may we be granted your guidance to do so with a proper spirit, with a proper demeanor, and with persuasive arguments. May we learn anew how to confront without demonizing, and to oppose without abandoning hope.
Father, we are aware that our future is in your hands, and we are fully aware that you and you alone will judge the nations. Much responsibility is now invested in President Barack Obama, and much will be required. May we, as Christian citizens, also fulfill what you would require of us. Even as we pray for you to protect this president and change his heart, we also pray that your church will be protected and that you will conform our hearts to your perfect will.
Father, we pray these things in the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, the ever-reigning once and future King, the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. He and he alone can save, and his kingdom is forever. Above all, may your great name be praised. Amen.
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Christians are, first of all, citizens of a heavenly kingdom. The followers of Christ know no allegiance of ultimate rank to any government or earthly authority. Yet, the Bible clearly teaches that God has given us the gifts of law, government, and ruling authorities for our good. We are instructed to pray for "rulers and all who have authority" and to be faithful in praying "so that we can have quiet and peaceful lives full of worship and respect for God" [1 Timothy 2:2].
As Barack Obama prepares to take the oath of office and become the 44th President of the United States, Christians should be thinking about how to pray for the new President. I offer this prayer as a place to start, as we observe the inauguration of the 44th President of the United States together.
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Post by miche on Jan 22, 2009 2:10:14 GMT -5
Fs, surely you agree that homosexuality is a sin right? Do you understand that abortion(stem cell research includes aborting life too) is murder in God's eyes? Even worse is that it is murder of an innocent human being. Public schools and Planned Parenthood have lied saying that a fertilized egg is just a mass of cells....but God says that is a human being that he created Himself. See for yourself what God thinks about these issues:
Abortion
Jeremiah 1:5 "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you; Before you were born I sanctified you; I ordained you a prophet to the nations."
Luke 1:41 And it happened, when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, that the babe leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. {the term fetus may confuse some people, but the truth is that it's a live baby in there whose life needs to be nurtured and protected.} Psalm 139:13 For You formed my inward parts; You covered me in my mother's womb. I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made; Marvelous are Your works, And that my soul knows very well. My frame was not hidden from You, When I was made in secret, And skillfully wrought in the lowest parts of the earth. Your eyes saw my substance, being yet unformed. And in Your book they all were written, The days fashioned for me, When as yet there were none of them.
Psalm 106:35-39 But they mingled with the Gentiles And learned their works; They served their idols, Which became a snare to them. They even sacrificed their sons And their daughters to demons, And shed innocent blood, The blood of their sons and daughters, Whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan; And the land was polluted with blood. Thus they were defiled by their own works, And played the harlot by their own deeds.
God’s own finger writes in stone the commandment "Thou shalt not kill" (Exodus 20:13, Deuteronomy 5:17) and Christ reaffirms it (Matthew 19:18). The Book of Revelation affirms that (unrepentant) murderers cannot enter the kingdom of heaven (Revelation 22:15).
Homosexuality
1Corinthians 6:9-10 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites[homosexuals], nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Timothy 1:9-10 Knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous person, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and for sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, for fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and if there is any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine,
Jude 1:7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Jude 1:8 Likewise also these dreamers defile the flesh, reject authority, and speak evil of dignitaries. Leviticus 18:22 'You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination.
1Corinthians 6:18 24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; 32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them. (meaning that we better not be found approving of what they are doing!)
......President Barak Obama should have the honor due him as well as the Christian's prayers but he certainly should not have the Christian's approval because of the sin he so flagrantly promotes.
I hope you might rethink your position, Fs, in light of God's word. ~Michelle
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Post by miche on Jan 21, 2009 2:04:17 GMT -5
It's late Tuesday night(actually early Wednesday for all you east coast folks) so I'm going to be praying for the people who heard their preaching. Middle of the night conviction!
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Post by miche on Jan 19, 2009 16:02:09 GMT -5
Surely your not saying that Jesus Christ is not a devout Calvinist's Lord and Savior are you Jesse?
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