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Post by bullhornbob on Apr 6, 2008 0:52:19 GMT -5
AMEN!
I can't wait to see j316y's response.
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Post by bullhornbob on Mar 26, 2008 22:45:06 GMT -5
Give God Praise!
Congratulations!
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Post by bullhornbob on Jul 24, 2007 22:52:22 GMT -5
God Bless you, Dan. May he give you the grace to do His will continually!
I think we can all learn from experiences such as these, but the important thing is that it is not about who wins the debate, or about coming out on top of the thread.
It is about Christ, and Him crucified for us, and He is alive! The Christ we read about in the Bible is not just words on a page, but He is living, breathing, interceding, and longing for us to sit at His feet, and to hear His words.
Tell me preachers, are you more of a "Martha," or a "Mary?" Only one of the two sought the one needful thing from Jesus.
PS. Read Luke 10: 38-42
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Post by bullhornbob on Jul 19, 2007 18:44:49 GMT -5
All is forgiven.
Ephesians 5:1-21
It is certainly worth looking up this portion of scripture.
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Post by bullhornbob on May 11, 2007 22:12:35 GMT -5
Happy Birthday, preacher!
May God grant you many more years of sowing His Word!
(and reaping harvest as well)
JK
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Post by bullhornbob on Dec 18, 2006 0:05:55 GMT -5
Thanks guys.
May God be praised for saving me.
I am very privileged to be here on the boards!
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Post by bullhornbob on Dec 7, 2006 0:44:58 GMT -5
I have actually enjoyed Dan's posts. He adds another dynamic to the board. IF we all agreed on everything this board would be boring. Point well taken, Josh. But I must add that Dan is very quick to accuse people of being false prophets, liars, apostate, etc., and that by his OPINION, but lacking proper biblical backing. Once you disagree with Dan, you are OUT! I personally never slandered him once, that I know of; yet he continually accused me of being false because I told the truth about people I minister with on a regular basis, and that without apology or admission of guilt. See former posts for details.
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Post by bullhornbob on Dec 12, 2006 15:33:40 GMT -5
Yeah, too bad he made up all of those arguments on his own. I never stated anything that he implied in his responses Good try, Josh.
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Post by bullhornbob on Dec 12, 2006 15:24:59 GMT -5
So you do good works to maintain your salvation? Most of your responses are to something YOU are making up. I never claimed any of the things you are implying. Maintain your salvation? Isn't that why we go to church every Sunday, for a tune-up, and 21 point inspection? LOL Josh said: I don't see anything there about our own works making us righteous. In fact I see the opposite. Faith in Christ makes us righteous. So if you are righteous, then work righteousness. Josh, what is faith? Is it not the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen? Faith is a choice to believe God. You have to cooperate with God. You have to choose to obey God. So yes, our good works prove we are saved, and it is us who are doing them, and not an infrared signal from God's remote control. You are not a robot. I repeat, not a robot, not a robot. I am amazed at how much of a response I have elicited from you, Josh. Do you think Adam and Eve chose to sin, or were they predestined to fall? I thought God created man in His own image? So if by choice man can sin, can he not also choose NOT to sin? Are we just a bunch of pawns on a planet, with God watching it all play out just as He planned it? Do you not have a free-will, Josh?
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Post by bullhornbob on Dec 11, 2006 23:16:04 GMT -5
Works righteousness comes into my mind when I read that. Josh, can you do anything in this life before you DECIDE to do it? You can CHOOSE to believe the gospel, or you can CHOOSE to reject it. Anyone who has followed this board for any amount of time knows I would never base my salvation on my own good works, but my responsibility to do good works is commanded by God. The work of redemption was done by Christ, but the works of righteousness afterwards are to be performed by us, the saints of God. Read Ephesians 2:10, not just 2:8 and 9. I can list more "works" scriptures if you like?
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Post by bullhornbob on Dec 11, 2006 2:00:53 GMT -5
We cleanse ourself "through" Christ. When Paul tells us to cleanse OURSELVES he is speaking of cleansing ourselves by the grace of God in us and given to us. I think Josh may be saying the same thing. Maybe. Ok, look at it this way: To take a shower, you need 3 elements - you, the water, and the soap. You must wash yourself with the soap of the Word of God, and rinse clean with the water of the Holy Ghost. But these elements alone will not accomplish cleansing without YOU getting it done. Cooperation is the word that comes to mind here!
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Post by bullhornbob on Dec 10, 2006 17:01:22 GMT -5
I can't keep myself from sin, since in me and my flesh there is no good thing. But its Christ Jesus who keeps me from sin. Josh, you contradict scripture with your statement. Jesus saves from sin. We are commanded to be filled with God's Spirit. He should be in you, if you are a Christian. Paul says to cleanse yourself of all filthiness of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God. God is not in heaven with a remote control, dominating your every move. He gives you the choice to sin, or not to sin. This is so evident in scripture, why even debate this?
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Post by bullhornbob on Dec 9, 2006 1:27:06 GMT -5
My sin has been removed from me because it was placed on Christ. He who had no sin became sin for us. His righteousness was imputed to be so that I would be made right before God. I understand that you believe that we must live sin free, but I see no Biblical backing for that whatsoever. OF COURSE I WANT to live sin free, but have not attained that as of yet. If it is possible then I would LOVE to attain it this side of Heaven. I am definitely striving for it. Pray that I will! As far as Satan and the 1/3 of the Angels that he brought down, we can't really compare that to us. Yes, we have all sinned and now deserve to go to Hell, but it is by the Grace of God that we are saved, not by our own righteousness or sinlessness. The Devil and his angels have no opportunity for Grace. I don't know why that is, but it is just the way God has made it. God Bless Bullhorn... Thanks for your response, K. I will sometimes go a day or two or three without checking the boards, so forgive the delay. I will pray for you, but I will also try to encourage you not to just go by what others have taught you, but to go by what Christ taught His disciples. The Bible teaches that sin is a choice. We as Christians can and must choose not to sin. If we constantly teach each other that we cannot be free from sin, there is no motivation to attain what Christ has clearly provided. Romans 8:2 states that we are free from the law of sin and death. Romans 6:2 also commands us to stop sinning. I John 3 clearly distinguishes between those who sin and those who do not sin. Plenty of biblical backing there. Also, Hebrews 6:1 tells us to move on from sin to perfection. Jesus commanded the adulterous woman and the healed impotent man both to go and sin no more (John 8:11, 5:14 respectively). Jesus would never command us to do something we could not attain, and then throw us into hellfire for not attaining unto it. I am not able to do it as the old bullhornbob, but the new bullhornbob. The born-again bullhornbob. I simply obey Him because I love Him! And I choose to sin no more, as He commanded. Blessings Kerrigan!
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Post by bullhornbob on Dec 7, 2006 0:37:35 GMT -5
I think instead of losing it, he never had it. Just my opinion I was just joking Alan. I don't believe someone can lose their salvation... OK, Rev K....a few questions for you sir: The devil; he was cast out of heaven, correct? Now, do you think he was "living eternally" before pride was found in his heart? And the 1/3 of the angels who went with him; they were eternal beings as well, right? How many sins did they commit to get booted from eternal life? The reason I ask is because calvinists (even a professing 3 pointer such as yourself) say you cannot lose your salvation no matter what, but these obviously did lose it. It is sin that causes one to be lost in the first place, so sin must be removed---enter Christ-----and yes, I believe you must live sin free. So the question is not whether we CAN live sin free, but DO WE WANT TO live sin free. I look forward to your response!
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Post by bullhornbob on Dec 15, 2006 0:45:45 GMT -5
Very interesting, Bro. Jesse! Great vision.
I will be praying for this specifically!
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Post by bullhornbob on Nov 30, 2006 1:16:31 GMT -5
Bullhornbob, I was given the opportunity of taking a pulpit with one of our pastors and recording some clips fro our ministry site; one of our pastors, a friend of Ian Paisley, and a Man of God who preaches 100% Holiness, also one of my best friends, asked me a question...."Why don't sinners come to church?" I wanted to post this short clip to you, as it appears you believe I teach a theology of sin or something of the sort...I wanted to allow you to see that you've misunderstood how I believe the Word of God teaches holiness and I'm thankful Pastor Bunting asked me the question which I was able to answer as best as I could; I pray this will suffice for an answer to your belief that I hold to the "we'll always sin" doctrine... Also, and lastly, thsi short clip is also fro the hypocrite and is an exhortation to stop sinning and live in the Power of the Resurrection of Jesus Christ, which allows us to walk free from sin and ungodliness! Amen! God bless. This, brother, is my theology: www.icminternational.org/site/cpage.asp?sec_id=1764&cpage_id=7953Thanks Dan. Please see my reply in the Hovind/Ruben thread.
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Post by bullhornbob on Aug 23, 2006 0:13:23 GMT -5
I believe Wesley lived at the Christian life wonderfully and I appreciate what the Lord did through him as he submitted his life to the Lord! I just don't agree with him theologically on all accounts. Forget about Calvinism/Arminianism. If I were to label myself in the past, I would have probably said I was a Calminian. Now I think I would call myself a WesField! ;D Hey Rev, why not just be a christian? I mean no harm, but I think sometimes we overdo it a bit with denominationalizing everything. What say you?
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Post by bullhornbob on Jun 17, 2006 0:07:17 GMT -5
Hahah, kind of reminds me of you guys... I would think this type of "preaching" would tickle your ear, wouldn't it, Ms. Morluna? Alas, no response. I guess I have offended another "heathen" with the painful truth!
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Post by bullhornbob on Jun 13, 2006 23:32:50 GMT -5
Hahah, kind of reminds me of you guys... I would think this type of "preaching" would tickle your ear, wouldn't it, Ms. Morluna?
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Post by bullhornbob on May 16, 2006 22:59:16 GMT -5
Oh, now I'm really riled up, AGAPE is greek for God's unconditional love! It takes a true being of mercy and grace to just be able to love people even as the f*ckups we are! Note, as soon as one adds onto "undonditional love" with hmmm, conditions, it is no longer UNconditional and no longer AGAPE!!! Where does it say unconditional in the definition? I think you may have jumped the gun, because John 14:21 explains the conditions for experiencing God's love. It is based on obedience to God, not selfishness. You will never have a loving relationship with God until you turn from yourself, and believe in Him. They that come to God must first believe He actually is God, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him. The Bible is not a handy reference book that you grab to prove your point. It is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword. You seem to quote the Bible only when it will suit your selfish agenda, and you twist it to make yourself seem smart and witty. I suggest that you read it, take it literally, and then obey it!
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Post by bullhornbob on May 4, 2006 0:41:25 GMT -5
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Post by bullhornbob on May 2, 2006 23:13:23 GMT -5
I know why I didn't make the list - I am not a bigot ;D.
Most people throw these words around and have no clue what they mean.
Here are some clues, folks---from a dictionary nonetheless!
Bigot:a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices.
Opinion implies a conclusion thought out, yet open to dispute.
Prejudice: 1 : injury or damage resulting from some judgment or action of another in disregard of one's rights; especially : detriment to one's legal rights or claims 2 a (1) : preconceived judgment or opinion (2) : an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge b : an instance of such judgment or opinion c : an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics.
Now, according to the actual meaning of the word bigot, can a true Christian actually be a bigot?
I say, NO WAY!
First, My faith is not based on opinion, but the unchanging Word of God, and the Son of God, Jesus Christ. The word opinion implies no concrete decision to believe in what you supposedly stand for--I have made my chioce, and unswervingly stand on the Stone which the builders rejected.
Second, I see no injury or damage to anyone here on the boards, or denial of rights, etc. Prejudice has it's root in opinion, and anyone who knows anything about Christianity and the Holy Bible without a doubt knows it is not opinion, but TRUTH THAT SETS YOU FREE!
So you heathen (defined as an unconverted member of a people or nation that does not acknowledge the God of the Bible--look it up) are heathen by your own admission, but your accusation of bigotry is unfounded and untrue against the FIRE AND BRIMSTONE PREACHERS ON THESE BOARDS!
And for you Morluna:
SOUND OFF
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Post by bullhornbob on Apr 4, 2006 23:48:13 GMT -5
Well my brothers and sisters, this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Let me explain:
I have always had a burden to preach the truth of the word. Holy living, life above sin, the blatant biblical errors laced throughout most of todays "churches", all have deeply concerned me. I admit, shamefully, that I never had the boldness to cross over into the obedient walk. Paul calls it walking in the Spirit.
So for many years, I coasted through church service after church service, never really finding that place of obedient fulfillment.
It took the boldness of some radically obedient people to shake me out of my slumber. I saw some things in their lives that really convicted me, obviously because of the sin in my life.
When I finally said "That's it", and I got the sin out of my life, that is when things started taking off. Again, I am sad to say, I waited a lot of years to move into obedience to God's word.
Now don't get me wrong. I wasn't in blatant outward sin, but the things that I knew God wanted me to do, I would refuse to obey. Lust, the fear of man, lack of a bold witness, all these plagued me until I got right with God.
The reason I am saying this is because almost immediately, I started suffering rejection and slander (I would never dare call it persecution) from those within my church. "You're too opinionated", or "You have to preach the love of god" were some of the types of advice I began to get. Mind you (I am not boasting by any means), I am a credentialed minister with a very large and popular Christian denomination, so things got pretty tipsy real quick-like!
To this very day, I am still scrutinized by my leaders, although one has been very patient and unfazed by the radical changes in my life.
An awesome thing has been happening as well, though. The Word of God has literally exploded off of the pages with truth and illumination! I mean, verses just pouring out truth after truth. It is truly amazing. And not just me, but my wife as well. She has blown me away with some of the things the Holy Spirit has shown her.
I will never turn back, friends! I will keep to the plow, no matter what ground I must tend. This is eternity at stake, and not just for myself. All people that die in their sin wind up in hell. What am I doing to stop it? Will I let hell continue to fill to overflow, or will I boldly start to snatch the lost from the edge of the precipice of eternal darkness?
Some encouraging scriptures:
John 15:19-23 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me.
If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloke for their sin.
He that hateth me hateth my Father also.
I know that Jesus is talking about the world in this passage, but I say that the people who love the world really hate God anyway, so they can call themselves whatever they please. The fruit of their lifestyle speaks volumes.
I really love and respect my elder leaders, but at the same time, I know that most of them are deceived. Very sad, indeed.
As far as praying for them, I will continue to do just that. The prophet Samuel stated I Samuel 12:23 Moreover as for me, God forbid that I should sin against the LORD in ceasing to pray for you: but I will teach you the good and the right way."
And it will get worse as the days progress. I know that this type of oppposition will only increase as the modern church has turned to fables and commandments of men. As Micah said, if we are right, then they are wrong, and that demands change on their part. Most will refuse to budge.
So, I want to encourage every committed man and woman of God on this board to pray fervently, study endlessly, and preach the truth relentlessly until your very last breath.
God bless and prosper Brother Jesse, Miles and the rest of the team. I have been receiving your e-mails, and they are very interesting.
Stay Strong, and SOUND OFF!
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Post by bullhornbob on Dec 11, 2006 1:23:14 GMT -5
93% of all abortions occur for social reasons (i.e. the child is unwanted or inconvenient) What have we become people? A bunch of murderers, that's what. And those who stand by and watch; apathetic cowards. See this link for a demonstration we attended this past January: www.pbase.com/lautermilch/mabaspThrough open-air preaching and protesting, and much prayer and fasting, our very own Doug is convinced that we will shut down a local abortion clinic in the next few months.
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Post by bullhornbob on Dec 8, 2006 17:51:08 GMT -5
Here's an interesting statistic just found...Where do you think the most dangerous place is to be in the world right now where you have a 1 in 4 chance of being murdered? I'll wait for a few responses before I reveal the answer. This is very obvious.....the most dangerous place on the face of this planet in the USA.....inside of a woman's womb. Millions of unborn babies have been slaughtered since Roe vs Wade was decided, and many more will, unfortunately, perish as well. Where is the Body of Christ? Will she stand up and make the word of the Lord known to this generation? Abortion is murder!
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Post by bullhornbob on Dec 14, 2006 0:06:53 GMT -5
Does anyone know how the debate went?
Did they debate yet?
I see BT has flown the coop, so this is why I ask.
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Post by bullhornbob on Nov 30, 2006 1:15:23 GMT -5
I admit that I am not very fond of Ruebens site. If I could, I would re-design it and make him a better one. But what I am fond of, is the truth that I have personally heard him preach. I have never seen him use a banner that wasn't biblical, or preach a message that wasn't biblical. But I too admit that his website could use some work. That site is an extension of his heart, as we know. Your site (not Forum) is an extension of your heart. My site...same. Eli's....same. So what you see on Ruben's site is what's in the man's heart; a hatred for homosexuals; not the Love of God. If that is the Love of God, take it; no one else wants it. I want the Love of God that sent Jesus to die for me while I was yet a sinner. Sorry that I have been off the boards for a couple of days. I sort of come and go. Lots going on in my life these days. Dan, you seem very sincere in what you believe, and I did watch that clip from the other thread. I am very convinced that you want to do the correct and biblical thing. Remember, all I did was ask you a couple of sincere questions about sin. If you have a problem with Micah and Ruben, take it up with them. Why do you accuse me as false? Do you have any proof? You have tossed out a lot of accusations which I see as unfounded. Again, we can discuss it if you want to. PM me and I will reply. Now, as far as I am concerned, I do not agree with every single thing on Ruben's site. Nor do I agree with every single thing I read on this forum, let alone the internet. But, I want to reiterate what I said earlier: I know Ruben personally, and he is a man of God. He has always been a source of encouragement to me and my wife, and a great leader at some of the bigger events I have had a chance to preach at. I would suggest that those of you who are offended by his website not go there. If sin offends you, then don't look. His boldness to confront the single-most devastating sin in today's world will always whip people into a controversial frenzy. BTW, Dan, isn't this your quote on Ruben's site "Hey Ruben, ICM Open Air Outreach LOVES your site!"?Now, If you feel you must bring correction, then you are admonished by me to do just that. I would caution you to use scripture as your basis for rebuke. Galatians 6:1 would be a good place to start. His e-mail address is posted on his site. It is my sincere desire to glorify God in all that I do. I am not responsible for Micah, or Dan, Ruben, or Jesse, or anyone else on this board. But, if I am accused falsely, then I will defend myself scripturally. For example: Psalm 15:1-5 LORD, who shall abide in thy tabernacle? who shall dwell in thy holy hill? He that [glow=red,2,300]walketh[/glow] uprightly, and [glow=red,2,300]worketh[/glow] righteousness, and [glow=red,2,300]speaketh[/glow] the truth in his heart. He that backbiteth not with his tongue, nor doeth evil to his neighbour, nor taketh up a reproach against his neighbour. In whose eyes a vile person is contemned ( despised); but he honoureth them that fear the LORD. He that sweareth to his own hurt, and changeth not. He that putteth not out his money to usury, nor taketh reward against the innocent. He that doeth these things shall never be moved. Now, we see that God makes the rules for entry into His holiness. Not us. So, here I see a direct contrast between this holiness and sinful wickedness. It even goes so far as saying we are to despise the vile ones. And of course we have all seen Psalms 5 and 11. We also read of God loving Jacob, and hating Esau. Now, either I have a scizophrenic God, or maybe I have to get some glasses or something! Is this God of the Bible loving and hating at the same time? Of course God loves, but we must also temper that with the rest of scripture. Man's disobedience will bring eternal judgement, and God does not love those who hate Him. He showed His love by providing a way of escape from sin, and entry into His glory, but those who refuse are destined to hellfire. These people are children of disobedience, and God's wrath is upon them. Wrath is also known as intense anger, and even hatred: Jhn 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Eph 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. Col 3:6 For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience: Rev 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: Rev 14:19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast [it] into the great winepress of the wrath of God. Rev 15:1 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God. Rev 15:7 And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever. Rev 16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth. Of course Jesus died for us when we were dead in our trespasses and sin, but at the same time we were, according to Romans 2:5 - treasur(ing) up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God... We were storing up wrath....God's wrath. His RIGHTEOUS judgement, not man's permissive and doctrinally unsound judgement......... 2Th 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: I am convinced that those who claim to preach and love and obey God, but continue in blatant sin and disobedience, are only fooling themselves. All those who oppose God and scripture will not gain entrance to His glory. Not in this life, nor in the next one. Hate me if you choose. I only speak the truth in love. Gotta go!
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Post by bullhornbob on Nov 27, 2006 21:56:24 GMT -5
Bullhorn, I don't know you personaly nor do I know Ruben. However I have seen pictures and heard from some people where I live here in Utah, about Ruben in SLC during the Mormon conference. Holding up garments between 2 poles is certainly nothing that can be found in the New Testament. If he has repented for misrepresenting God, than fine. I have been a believer for 18+ years and I use the law of God because it is what converts the soul. It is perfect, and if used rightly can effect many. I read a post here by someone on one of the travelin teams that suggested that all open air preachers check their heart before they go out. Do they truly want lost and dying people to be saved or do they want to degrade and swing people to their own side? I know in all honesty that I have been in situations where I have lost focus of the reason for my preaching, and I.m sure you have too. The issue for open air preaching as far as I can see isn't weather to use the law or not.The issue is weather we use the sharp edge of the sword or the blunt one. Alan, I know Ruben is a godly man. I have spent many hours with him doing many different activities, not just preaching. He wants the wicked of this world to know the truth, and trust me, his hands will be clean on judgement day. Open-air preaching for over 25 years will give one a bit of a head start, no? (We are novices at this) To work an event with this man is like being part of a well-oiled machine. Hours of preparatory prayer, planning, many $$ spent travelling and hours driving, I could go on and on. Here is the problem; most people will take a small piece of the puzzle and claim that they know what the whole picture is. The only way to see the whole picture is to have all the pieces put together. A short video clip or one or two pictures on the internet are just not enough. Walk a mile in his shoes one year at Mardi Gras, or one of the bigger sodomite parades. Maybe then you will understand, when you see the love of God being poured out through this obedient servant.
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Post by bullhornbob on Nov 26, 2006 0:54:36 GMT -5
Jesus loves me, this I know, fvor the Bible tells me so, little one to Him belong, they are weak, but Jesus is strong.... OK, here you go, Dan: Hebrews 6:1-3 says: Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this will we do, if God permit. Just for the record, most churches today, even so-called christians, cannot get past the repentance part of the above verse. This is why we are having this discussion, boys and girls. Immaturity running rampant. II Corinthians 7:1 says: Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.Big, scary words like perfection and holiness.....oooh nooooo, you mean I have to be HOLY? I have to stop sinning. AAAAAHHHHH! --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan, you are the only one on this board who calls christian men false just because you disagree with them. Are you also going to accuse Jesse and his teams as being false brethren? I have personally preached with all of the teams (except Jeffrey), and associated with them. I wholeheartedly support these dynamic young men, and I am sure they would do the same for my wife and myself (the wife and I have been open-air preaching at least once a week for about 2 years now). Does this automatically make them an abomination? And, on what grounds? You obviously have an issue with the confrontational style of preaching. I pray you search the New Testament examples of preaching, and study them without the influence of men, but with sincerity and simplicity of heart. Dan, if you get right down to it, you are really just disagreeing with the Bible. I can and will gladly enter into a civil and respectful discussion on any of the above topics, and concerning any of the accusations you have posed. Again, no malice here. Just a genuine concern for your attitude towards Ruben, Micah, and myself. Any other names you might want to add to your list?
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Post by bullhornbob on Nov 24, 2006 13:40:05 GMT -5
Dan: BullhornBob! I know why you don;t like me now!
BB: Who said I did not like you. I have no malice towards you, or anyone else. Are you making things up again?
Dan: I just went through some of your posts and you're pals with Micah and Ruben!
BB: And who are YOU pals with? It would seem you are defending sin, according to the thread. You make yourself an enemy of God by loving sin. Hypocrite!
Dan: No wonder you blasted me as you did! You're a friend to false prophets! That explains it.
BB: You cannot, and quite frankly, will not be willing to prove this very strong accusation. These men are saved, sanctified, and filled with the Holy Spirit. Can you prove they are not? All I hear are accusations without biblical evidence (note that I said evidence, not OPINION).
Dan: No more needs to be said by me and as a matter of fact, I'm deleting my post in reply to you above....
BB: You can run, but you cannot hide. You have been exposed as accusational and unreasonable. I think you may fair much better doing just that....saying nothing else and listening for a change.
Dan: I once came against, openly, Ruben Isn't-Real for telling people God hates them and marching with those who do... I also came against, openly, Micah, as he's on Youtube with beer being thrown in his face for calling a man's girlfriend a w/h/o/r/e; rather than saying, Jesus says you're forgiven... go, and sin no more(Jesus never once did this type of Evangelism)
BB: Yes, you come against all who oppose your views, and quite viciously, I might add. Maybe you just cannot see it, but from my perspective, you basically are the OAO Boards Police Chief. Your job is to go around correcting everyone's posts, and pointing out everyone who disagrees with you as "false brethren" or "false converts." All the while amen-ing those who agree with you.
You have obviously overlooked the fruit of Jesus ministry....they murdered Him. They wanted to kill Him from the very beginning. They murdered the prophets before Him, and all the apostles after Him. So it is no wonder that men come against God's servants today. (And by the way, Jesus was Messiah, not an evangelist. He fulfilled all of the offices of Priest, Prophet and King)
Dan: I haven;t done so in some time, but your referrence to me as calling solid brothers false brethren says alot about why you wrote what you wrote above. No matter; I read your posts extolling the abominable men you call Brethren.
BB: And you have an opinion as does everyone else. You can try to read into it all you want, but the fact remains that I have proof, you have accusations. I have video and eye-witnesses of how God is being glorified through the men you call false, you have.........posts?
Dan: I have received more emails from Baptists and Holiness Charismatics saying, "Praise God!" than I have mean ones; the mean ones come only from their FRIENDS; never from those who se e these wicked men in action once a year at the homosexual parades or from the ones who are victimized by them.
BB: Please clarify; I'm not sure I follow you. Are you saying your ministry is better than their ministry? You have to be kidding! How juvenile of you.
Dan: That said, I'm not going to respond to you further; I know EXACTLY what you're doing... and it's not going to work. It takes two to debate; you're on your own Bullhornbob.
BB: Of course you will not respond, because you do not want to admit your fault. You accuse without proof, then write people off as false, and expect that to be final. But I suspect you will respond, as you have to be right, you have to have the last word, and you will not relent.
Pitiful. Quite pitiful. When you grow up, let me know. Then we can have a meaningful discussion. I pray you see the error of your ways and become humble, teachable, and willing to discuss the Bible with respect and decency. You know, the things you accuse others of not doing?
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